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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7083</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7081</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble when mentioning yowcow and paypalsucks.com is that yowcow sponsors the site so everything is biased towards yowcow. I have seen post be deleted that critised yowcow. Stories of people who had their accounts frozen by yowcow are either deleted or yowcow spammers attack them saying they are liars or fraudsters. Its a nasty business and paypalsucks.com and yowcow seem to be up to some sort of shady activity themselves. So beware both yowcow and paypalsucks if you want a balanced view on processors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble when mentioning yowcow and paypalsucks.com is that yowcow sponsors the site so everything is biased towards yowcow. I have seen post be deleted that critised yowcow. Stories of people who had their accounts frozen by yowcow are either deleted or yowcow spammers attack them saying they are liars or fraudsters. Its a nasty business and paypalsucks.com and yowcow seem to be up to some sort of shady activity themselves. So beware both yowcow and paypalsucks if you want a balanced view on processors.</p>
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		<title>By: John C. Dvorak</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2322</link>
		<dc:creator>John C. Dvorak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha... yowcow is a friend of the site I&#039;m certain. I sure would be. So? If you think they are behind the site you should think again or do some research yourself. The site was started by a personal friend of mine and not because of anything Yowcow ever did. He has a personal grudge with Paypal. It&#039;s a pure grudge site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha&#8230; yowcow is a friend of the site I&#8217;m certain. I sure would be. So? If you think they are behind the site you should think again or do some research yourself. The site was started by a personal friend of mine and not because of anything Yowcow ever did. He has a personal grudge with Paypal. It&#8217;s a pure grudge site.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-2315</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic that yowcow sponsors paypalsucks.com and authors some of its content.

Do some research:

http://www.jackwhispers.com/paypalsucks.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic that yowcow sponsors paypalsucks.com and authors some of its content.</p>
<p>Do some research:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jackwhispers.com/paypalsucks.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.jackwhispers.com/paypalsucks.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.jackwhispers.com/paypalsucks.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: William C. Logan</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>William C. Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Dvorak,

Even though this may not be the appropriate forum to express an opinion on your fine article, I thoroughly enjoyed your expose on &quot;The Myth of Disruptive Technology.&quot;  I found only one point of disagreement.  You will never get me to concede that &quot;asphalt was never cheaper than or inferior to dirt.&quot;  I am originally from Northern Ohio.

Respectfully yours,
Bill Logan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Dvorak,</p>
<p>Even though this may not be the appropriate forum to express an opinion on your fine article, I thoroughly enjoyed your expose on &#8220;The Myth of Disruptive Technology.&#8221;  I found only one point of disagreement.  You will never get me to concede that &#8220;asphalt was never cheaper than or inferior to dirt.&#8221;  I am originally from Northern Ohio.</p>
<p>Respectfully yours,<br />
Bill Logan</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Coulter</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Coulter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;Coulter&#039;s like losing one&#039;s virginity? I&#039;d venture sanity. Blogs are DOS Attacks on productivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;Coulter&#8217;s like losing one&#8217;s virginity? I&#8217;d venture sanity. Blogs are DOS Attacks on productivity.</p>
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		<title>By: K B</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>K B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PayPal is one of those services which should have been the greatest thing since sliced bread.   Instead, it has become just another of those modern annoyances which are probably best left alone.  

If you must use it, I suggest at least doing what I do, which is to provide one of those special credit card numbers which (1) is valid only up to the limit you specify; (2) is valid only for that single merchant (PayPal), and (3) expires within a period you specify.    

It&#039;s probably also good to use what I call the hang-gliding rule:  Never fly higher than you are willing to fall.  In other words, just use it for the small ticket stuff, and keep that credit card limit LOW.

As far as using it for *selling*-- that&#039;s scarier.  (Bank account info required....)

There&#039;s probably competition on the way.   I&#039;ve seen eBay sellers offering auctioncheckout.com as an alternative.  I looked at it briefly.  It appears that the seller must pay a monthly fee for buyers to use it, but if PayPal continues its consumer-unfriendly ways, I think that interest in alternatives will continue to rise.

Ah!  My first blog post.  It&#039;s like losing one&#039;s virginity, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PayPal is one of those services which should have been the greatest thing since sliced bread.   Instead, it has become just another of those modern annoyances which are probably best left alone.  </p>
<p>If you must use it, I suggest at least doing what I do, which is to provide one of those special credit card numbers which (1) is valid only up to the limit you specify; (2) is valid only for that single merchant (PayPal), and (3) expires within a period you specify.    </p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably also good to use what I call the hang-gliding rule:  Never fly higher than you are willing to fall.  In other words, just use it for the small ticket stuff, and keep that credit card limit LOW.</p>
<p>As far as using it for *selling*&#8211; that&#8217;s scarier.  (Bank account info required&#8230;.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably competition on the way.   I&#8217;ve seen eBay sellers offering auctioncheckout.com as an alternative.  I looked at it briefly.  It appears that the seller must pay a monthly fee for buyers to use it, but if PayPal continues its consumer-unfriendly ways, I think that interest in alternatives will continue to rise.</p>
<p>Ah!  My first blog post.  It&#8217;s like losing one&#8217;s virginity, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Tenaya</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Tenaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, vistiting the paypalsucks site reveals that PayPal can lock up an account for 180 days for any reason.  They can also refuse to detail why they did so and they provide no appeal process.

Now, let&#039;s combine that with the fact that when you, as a PayPal user, apply to be part of the settlement, PayPal knows (afterall, they are graciously doing the emailing).  

What keeps PayPal from freezing the accounts of all who apply to join the settlement?

Sound paranoid?  Maybe, but who would have expected PayPal to treat their customers this way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, vistiting the paypalsucks site reveals that PayPal can lock up an account for 180 days for any reason.  They can also refuse to detail why they did so and they provide no appeal process.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s combine that with the fact that when you, as a PayPal user, apply to be part of the settlement, PayPal knows (afterall, they are graciously doing the emailing).  </p>
<p>What keeps PayPal from freezing the accounts of all who apply to join the settlement?</p>
<p>Sound paranoid?  Maybe, but who would have expected PayPal to treat their customers this way?</p>
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		<title>By: James Dermitt</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/07/29/paypal-follow-up/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>James Dermitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also www.money.com which is actually a site dedicated to news, which is where you find the money if you are lucky.

If I&#039;m involved in any lawsuit, I want a certified letter delivered by a USPS employee wearing credentials and driving a red, white and blue truck.  I know it costs money, but I&#039;m not playing these games with high tech crooks or people with class action cash generation ideas and a collection of vague web sites that need investigated.  Use the mail and use it right.  Is it that difficult?

Certified mail service provides the sender with a mailing receipt and, upon request, electronic verification that an article was delivered or that a delivery attempt was made. Customers can retrieve the delivery status in three ways: (1) over the Internet at www.usps.com by entering the article number shown on the mailing receipt; (2) by telephone at 1-800-222-1811; or (3) by bulk electronic file transfer for mailers who provide an electronic manifest to the Postal Service. A delivery record (which includes the signature) is retained by the Postal Service for a specified period of time. Certified mail is dispatched and handled in transit as ordinary mail. Delivery of certified mail is subject to D042. No insurance coverage is provided.

For more about USPS certified mail see 
http://www.usclonline.com/ or  http://usclonline.com/automated/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also <a href="http://www.money.com" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.money.com' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.money.com</a> which is actually a site dedicated to news, which is where you find the money if you are lucky.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m involved in any lawsuit, I want a certified letter delivered by a USPS employee wearing credentials and driving a red, white and blue truck.  I know it costs money, but I&#8217;m not playing these games with high tech crooks or people with class action cash generation ideas and a collection of vague web sites that need investigated.  Use the mail and use it right.  Is it that difficult?</p>
<p>Certified mail service provides the sender with a mailing receipt and, upon request, electronic verification that an article was delivered or that a delivery attempt was made. Customers can retrieve the delivery status in three ways: (1) over the Internet at <a href="http://www.usps.com" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.usps.com' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.usps.com</a> by entering the article number shown on the mailing receipt; (2) by telephone at 1-800-222-1811; or (3) by bulk electronic file transfer for mailers who provide an electronic manifest to the Postal Service. A delivery record (which includes the signature) is retained by the Postal Service for a specified period of time. Certified mail is dispatched and handled in transit as ordinary mail. Delivery of certified mail is subject to D042. No insurance coverage is provided.</p>
<p>For more about USPS certified mail see<br />
<a href="http://www.usclonline.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.usclonline.com/' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.usclonline.com/</a> or  <a href="http://usclonline.com/automated/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://usclonline.com/automated/' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://usclonline.com/automated/</a></p>
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