Comments on: Kerry 1, Bush 0 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/09/30/kerry-1-bush-0/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:40:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: zxevil164 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/09/30/kerry-1-bush-0/comment-page-1/#comment-1041638 zxevil164 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:21:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=489#comment-1041638 Ni0T2j Cool, bro! Ni0T2j Cool, bro!

]]> By: Zaine Ridling http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/09/30/kerry-1-bush-0/comment-page-1/#comment-1650 Zaine Ridling Sat, 02 Oct 2004 04:25:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=489#comment-1650 Your coverage is hilarious. I'll defer to James Wolcott's latest post at www.jameswolcott.com Your coverage is hilarious. I’ll defer to James Wolcott’s latest post at http://www.jameswolcott.com

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/09/30/kerry-1-bush-0/comment-page-1/#comment-1635 Anonymous Fri, 01 Oct 2004 19:06:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=489#comment-1635 Kerry did better in the debate. The debate did get a little boring after a while, hopefully the next debates will be better. Neither of the candidates said anything different from what we've heard before. Kerry did better in the debate. The debate did get a little boring after a while, hopefully the next debates will be better. Neither of the candidates said anything different from what we’ve heard before.

]]> By: Anonymously http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/09/30/kerry-1-bush-0/comment-page-1/#comment-1634 Anonymously Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:00:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=489#comment-1634 "That was the first quarter of the football game. Meaningless." I think that's wrong, both from the perspective of football, as well as in terms of its impact generally. That is, neither the debate nor the first quarter of a football game is "meaningless." With regards to football, I won't belabor the point (for once ;) ), but if one team outscores the other 35-0 in the first quarter, then that quarter has a lot of meaning to the overall game. Not that Kerry, from what I've read, did that much better than Bush, but I think it shows that the first quarter of a football game can have a serious impact. As for the debates, I believe the general concensus from a lot of commentators is that Kerry looked presidential, and, more importantly, that impression was conveyed to the viewers that basically know him through George Bush's advertisements. According to Gallup, http://tinyurl.com/4polz, and their question: "2. How has your opinion of John Kerry been affected by the debate? Is your opinion of Kerry -- more favorable, less favorable, or has it not changed much?" 46% said "More favorable", 13% "Less Favorable" and 41% "No Change." As the challenger, those are great numbers and compare favorably to the numbers Bush received in his first debate against Al Gore: 34, 14, 52. Indeed, since 1992, the only candidate to have a better response was Ross Perot (but I think his situation was arguably pretty unique). In any case, while this is certainly nowhere near the end of the line (or the 4th Quarter), to say that the first debate, which had particularly high ratings, was "meaningless" is overstepping. “That was the first quarter of the football game. Meaningless.”

I think that’s wrong, both from the perspective of football, as well as in terms of its impact generally. That is, neither the debate nor the first quarter of a football game is “meaningless.”

With regards to football, I won’t belabor the point (for once ;) ), but if one team outscores the other 35-0 in the first quarter, then that quarter has a lot of meaning to the overall game. Not that Kerry, from what I’ve read, did that much better than Bush, but I think it shows that the first quarter of a football game can have a serious impact.

As for the debates, I believe the general concensus from a lot of commentators is that Kerry looked presidential, and, more importantly, that impression was conveyed to the viewers that basically know him through George Bush’s advertisements.

According to Gallup, http://tinyurl.com/4polz, and their question: “2. How has your opinion of John Kerry been affected by the debate? Is your opinion of Kerry — more favorable, less favorable, or has it not changed much?” 46% said “More favorable”, 13% “Less Favorable” and 41% “No Change.”

As the challenger, those are great numbers and compare favorably to the numbers Bush received in his first debate against Al Gore: 34, 14, 52. Indeed, since 1992, the only candidate to have a better response was Ross Perot (but I think his situation was arguably pretty unique).

In any case, while this is certainly nowhere near the end of the line (or the 4th Quarter), to say that the first debate, which had particularly high ratings, was “meaningless” is overstepping.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/09/30/kerry-1-bush-0/comment-page-1/#comment-1631 Thomas Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:43:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=489#comment-1631 I'd say it is more like Kerry 3 Bush 2. It other words, it is was very, very close. Both were really vague. Kerry was lucid, but vague. Bush was, well...Bush, and vague. I thought Bush trounced Kerry a couple of times on issues like China's involvement with North Korea. But I thought Kerry's closing statement was stronger. I’d say it is more like Kerry 3 Bush 2. It other words, it is was very, very close. Both were really vague. Kerry was lucid, but vague. Bush was, well…Bush, and vague. I thought Bush trounced Kerry a couple of times on issues like China’s involvement with North Korea. But I thought Kerry’s closing statement was stronger.

]]> By: Ed Campbell http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2004/09/30/kerry-1-bush-0/comment-page-1/#comment-1629 Ed Campbell Fri, 01 Oct 2004 12:50:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=489#comment-1629 Navy 24 -- 21 Air Force. Hi-Def. Air Force has a terrific freshman quarterback with more heart than experience. Navy's field goal kicker hadn't made one, yet, this year -- till the last 10 seconds of the game. That's right. Seeing Bush would have made me puke. Watching Kerry finally stand up to the bullshit could have been interesting, I guess. Visiting the network websites after the "debate" was fun. Pro-Kerry poll results from watchers ran 70-80%. I guess that puts the lie to the Bush spin. The funniest was the FOX website which didn't have a poll. At least, I couldn't find one. Perhaps they had one and pulled it when they saw the numbers. They also had the ubiquitous Google adverts which included one for a polling website where you could go and rate the networks on which were fair and unbiased. It was blocked! Navy 24 — 21 Air Force. Hi-Def. Air Force has a terrific freshman quarterback with more heart than experience. Navy’s field goal kicker hadn’t made one, yet, this year — till the last 10 seconds of the game.

That’s right. Seeing Bush would have made me puke. Watching Kerry finally stand up to the bullshit could have been interesting, I guess.

Visiting the network websites after the “debate” was fun. Pro-Kerry poll results from watchers ran 70-80%. I guess that puts the lie to the Bush spin. The funniest was the FOX website which didn’t have a poll. At least, I couldn’t find one. Perhaps they had one and pulled it when they saw the numbers.

They also had the ubiquitous Google adverts which included one for a polling website where you could go and rate the networks on which were fair and unbiased. It was blocked!

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