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		<title>By: msi</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/01/decide-virginity-or-death/comment-page-2/#comment-459837</link>
		<dc:creator>msi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle Dave,

Your headline is misleading.  Governor Perry&#039;s action requires the administration of the vaccine (according to chron.com)  for entry into public schools.  The use of the vaccine by the public  has already been &quot;OK&#039;ed&quot; by the FDA.  Requiring the use of this vaccine that targets a pathogen that typically and usually is transmitted by sexual contact  is quite different than requiring vaccines that prevent disease (e.g. whooping cough) that can be spread in social situations without direct physical contact or by casual physical contact.  

Please get your facts right in your posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Dave,</p>
<p>Your headline is misleading.  Governor Perry&#8217;s action requires the administration of the vaccine (according to chron.com)  for entry into public schools.  The use of the vaccine by the public  has already been &#8220;OK&#8217;ed&#8221; by the FDA.  Requiring the use of this vaccine that targets a pathogen that typically and usually is transmitted by sexual contact  is quite different than requiring vaccines that prevent disease (e.g. whooping cough) that can be spread in social situations without direct physical contact or by casual physical contact.  </p>
<p>Please get your facts right in your posting.</p>
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		<title>By: GetReal</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/01/decide-virginity-or-death/comment-page-2/#comment-93473</link>
		<dc:creator>GetReal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am shocked that this is even an issue!  How dare they infringe on our freedoms!  Who are they to judge what we believe to be moral or not?!  If my daughter makes a mistake in her teens or even adult hood by getting involved when she shouldn&#039;t; should she pay with her life?!!  For the idiots the answer is NO!!  Maybe we should not allow viagra to be marketed because that sends a message of sexual evils.  If you can&#039;t get it up then God wanted it that way.  Doesn&#039;t that sound ignorant and uninformed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked that this is even an issue!  How dare they infringe on our freedoms!  Who are they to judge what we believe to be moral or not?!  If my daughter makes a mistake in her teens or even adult hood by getting involved when she shouldn&#8217;t; should she pay with her life?!!  For the idiots the answer is NO!!  Maybe we should not allow viagra to be marketed because that sends a message of sexual evils.  If you can&#8217;t get it up then God wanted it that way.  Doesn&#8217;t that sound ignorant and uninformed?</p>
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		<title>By: T.C. Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/01/decide-virginity-or-death/comment-page-2/#comment-76401</link>
		<dc:creator>T.C. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 02:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should put the vaccine in our water.
Along with Cialis/Viagra. Just in case.

Since it&#039;s caused by a virus, perhaps they should rename Cervical Cancer to something else. Then it wouldn&#039;t be such a big deal, and only the really horny would feel compelled to get the vaccine.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should put the vaccine in our water.<br />
Along with Cialis/Viagra. Just in case.</p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s caused by a virus, perhaps they should rename Cervical Cancer to something else. Then it wouldn&#8217;t be such a big deal, and only the really horny would feel compelled to get the vaccine.</p>
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		<title>By: meetsy</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/01/decide-virginity-or-death/comment-page-2/#comment-76390</link>
		<dc:creator>meetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking....you know, it&#039;s rarely GIRLS who initiate sex. It&#039;s always the boys pushing and wheedling and charming and, well, outright begging.  Maybe if they&#039;d develop a vaccine to keep those male hormones from raging, or something that would render the offending organ useless...that would be more acceptable to these anti-vaccine/might cause wanton sex people.     Certainly would be MORE EFFECTIVE.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking&#8230;.you know, it&#8217;s rarely GIRLS who initiate sex. It&#8217;s always the boys pushing and wheedling and charming and, well, outright begging.  Maybe if they&#8217;d develop a vaccine to keep those male hormones from raging, or something that would render the offending organ useless&#8230;that would be more acceptable to these anti-vaccine/might cause wanton sex people.     Certainly would be MORE EFFECTIVE.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those that are crying about insisting upon vaccinating ALL women as a loss of freedom are just plain wrong. Protection for all women would be a better way of putting it.

Most jurisdictions that I am aware of require certain immunizations before that child may attend the public school. Most States, if not all, require children to be in a child or booster seat when riding in a car. When medical attention is denied by parents, including blood transfusions, the State may and does step in to assume custody of the child. When physical abuse is suspected the State again steps in to remove the child from the scene. 

The common theme here is the protection of the child is paramount. In every case, the parent is expected to voluntarily submit their child to these protections. If the parent declines, regardless of personal or religious beliefs, the State will remove custody from the parents to effect that protection. Why? Simply because the welfare of the child takes precedence over any assumed right of the parent. 

Is this socialism or communism? Nope. I would have to say it is the community&#039;s concern for the greater good. Is the opposite, the parents absolute right to parent as they see fit, ever justified? Nope again, because in cases like this here, it is akin to child abuse.

meetsy, it is easy to see when a subject gets you going. Well put. My wife and daughter have uterus&#039;s though.
Ima, I agree and you made your point quite well in my opinion.

Smith, if the government is only to protect us from outside dangers, then why am I not permitted to help myself to my neighbors lawn mower? By denying me the opportunity to “take” (steal), society is protected. By criminalizing the use of heroin or ecstasy, society is protecting us from dangers inside society. By limiting the powers of a parent, we ensure that children are safer. Maybe you lost a small piece of freedom, but you gave up that piece to join a society where everyone (theoretical) is equally protected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that are crying about insisting upon vaccinating ALL women as a loss of freedom are just plain wrong. Protection for all women would be a better way of putting it.</p>
<p>Most jurisdictions that I am aware of require certain immunizations before that child may attend the public school. Most States, if not all, require children to be in a child or booster seat when riding in a car. When medical attention is denied by parents, including blood transfusions, the State may and does step in to assume custody of the child. When physical abuse is suspected the State again steps in to remove the child from the scene. </p>
<p>The common theme here is the protection of the child is paramount. In every case, the parent is expected to voluntarily submit their child to these protections. If the parent declines, regardless of personal or religious beliefs, the State will remove custody from the parents to effect that protection. Why? Simply because the welfare of the child takes precedence over any assumed right of the parent. </p>
<p>Is this socialism or communism? Nope. I would have to say it is the community&#8217;s concern for the greater good. Is the opposite, the parents absolute right to parent as they see fit, ever justified? Nope again, because in cases like this here, it is akin to child abuse.</p>
<p>meetsy, it is easy to see when a subject gets you going. Well put. My wife and daughter have uterus&#8217;s though.<br />
Ima, I agree and you made your point quite well in my opinion.</p>
<p>Smith, if the government is only to protect us from outside dangers, then why am I not permitted to help myself to my neighbors lawn mower? By denying me the opportunity to “take” (steal), society is protected. By criminalizing the use of heroin or ecstasy, society is protecting us from dangers inside society. By limiting the powers of a parent, we ensure that children are safer. Maybe you lost a small piece of freedom, but you gave up that piece to join a society where everyone (theoretical) is equally protected.</p>
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		<title>By: meetsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>meetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems to ME that most of you boys, lack a cervix...so what are you doing discussing this at all?   Cervical cancer has NO SYMPTOMS  until it has progressed to a dangerous stage.  For many, by the time it&#039;s diagnosed... it&#039;s tooo late.  
  PAP smears, regular girlie gyno stuff, tends to detect errant cells early, but it&#039;s not 100%.  And HPV is just an indicator...it&#039;s more likely that those infected with HPV will go on to have cervical cancer, but that&#039;s not 100% either.  It&#039;s just one indicator.  Others include multiple sex partners AND cigarette smoking, and long-term oral contraceptives.   It&#039;s a lifestyle thing.   However, since NO ONE knows how a girls life may twist and turn..it&#039;s a GREAT idea to vaccinate against one of the risk factors....and, hopefully, eliminate one potential cancer agent.   
  But, to make the leap of faith and assume that by taking out ONE possible virus...that it&#039;s going to cause a girl to say &quot;oh boy, let me go out and screw as many boys as I can&quot; is stupid (and wishful male thinking).   We vaccinate our youth ...for polio.  Not everyone who had polio suddenly had to be in an iron lung.  We vaccinate our youth for measles.  But not everyone becomes deaf or dies from it.  We vaccinate our girls for rubella.......even though only a small percentage of women who became pregnant also contracted rubella (and caused deafness or profound brain problems with their babies).  We should vaccinate for HPV to eliminate, yet another, potential.  It only makes sense.
    And, yes, I think  that the way the polio vaccine was given out....with the whole communities showing up to get the sugar cube....in single file lines (government paid for. I had mine at my school cafeteria on a Saturday afternoon, with about 500 of my neighbors, schoolmates and their parents and siblings).  I think that is how we should approach influenza, other viral invaders, and infectious diseases.   It may be &quot;socialist&quot; but for health care it works best.  We need herd protection...with our ever increasing populations.  It&#039;s not an individual choice, because your choice, affects not only YOUR child, but MINE.
     Sorry, but, Mom&#039;s have a different view than fathers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems to ME that most of you boys, lack a cervix&#8230;so what are you doing discussing this at all?   Cervical cancer has NO SYMPTOMS  until it has progressed to a dangerous stage.  For many, by the time it&#8217;s diagnosed&#8230; it&#8217;s tooo late.<br />
  PAP smears, regular girlie gyno stuff, tends to detect errant cells early, but it&#8217;s not 100%.  And HPV is just an indicator&#8230;it&#8217;s more likely that those infected with HPV will go on to have cervical cancer, but that&#8217;s not 100% either.  It&#8217;s just one indicator.  Others include multiple sex partners AND cigarette smoking, and long-term oral contraceptives.   It&#8217;s a lifestyle thing.   However, since NO ONE knows how a girls life may twist and turn..it&#8217;s a GREAT idea to vaccinate against one of the risk factors&#8230;.and, hopefully, eliminate one potential cancer agent.<br />
  But, to make the leap of faith and assume that by taking out ONE possible virus&#8230;that it&#8217;s going to cause a girl to say &#8220;oh boy, let me go out and screw as many boys as I can&#8221; is stupid (and wishful male thinking).   We vaccinate our youth &#8230;for polio.  Not everyone who had polio suddenly had to be in an iron lung.  We vaccinate our youth for measles.  But not everyone becomes deaf or dies from it.  We vaccinate our girls for rubella&#8230;&#8230;.even though only a small percentage of women who became pregnant also contracted rubella (and caused deafness or profound brain problems with their babies).  We should vaccinate for HPV to eliminate, yet another, potential.  It only makes sense.<br />
    And, yes, I think  that the way the polio vaccine was given out&#8230;.with the whole communities showing up to get the sugar cube&#8230;.in single file lines (government paid for. I had mine at my school cafeteria on a Saturday afternoon, with about 500 of my neighbors, schoolmates and their parents and siblings).  I think that is how we should approach influenza, other viral invaders, and infectious diseases.   It may be &#8220;socialist&#8221; but for health care it works best.  We need herd protection&#8230;with our ever increasing populations.  It&#8217;s not an individual choice, because your choice, affects not only YOUR child, but MINE.<br />
     Sorry, but, Mom&#8217;s have a different view than fathers.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Ima, the real duty of (federal) government is not to protect each and every individual within its country&#039;s borders.  Its real duty is to protect its citizens from threats that are beyond the capability of an individual or community.  (That is why government was invented.)

When government revokes my right to choose, for myself or my family, it has stolen a piece of my freedom.  It has also, in part, relieved me of accountability for my actions or those of my family.  

And that, ~, is the downside of forcing immunization on anyone.  By the way, I don&#039;t believe a single poster stated that he or she would refuse to have their children vaccinated, so I don&#039;t understand the purpose of your challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Ima, the real duty of (federal) government is not to protect each and every individual within its country&#8217;s borders.  Its real duty is to protect its citizens from threats that are beyond the capability of an individual or community.  (That is why government was invented.)</p>
<p>When government revokes my right to choose, for myself or my family, it has stolen a piece of my freedom.  It has also, in part, relieved me of accountability for my actions or those of my family.  </p>
<p>And that, ~, is the downside of forcing immunization on anyone.  By the way, I don&#8217;t believe a single poster stated that he or she would refuse to have their children vaccinated, so I don&#8217;t understand the purpose of your challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Deckard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Deckard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 01:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s a question balancing priorities, and presuming Mr.Rudd speaks for the opponents of the vaccine in general, it&#039;s apparent they&#039;d rather have their abstinece message, er, unsabotaged than prevent a few thousand deaths a year. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s a question balancing priorities, and presuming Mr.Rudd speaks for the opponents of the vaccine in general, it&#8217;s apparent they&#8217;d rather have their abstinece message, er, unsabotaged than prevent a few thousand deaths a year. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: raindog</title>
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		<dc:creator>raindog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To respond to an earlier post, the saying isn&#039;t &quot;abstinence doesn&#039;t work&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;abstinence-only sex education doesn&#039;t work&quot;.

It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if some activists shortened it to &quot;abstinence doesn&#039;t work&quot; because it makes a better sound bite, but if so, they haven&#039;t thought it through very well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To respond to an earlier post, the saying isn&#8217;t &#8220;abstinence doesn&#8217;t work&#8221;, it&#8217;s &#8220;abstinence-only sex education doesn&#8217;t work&#8221;.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if some activists shortened it to &#8220;abstinence doesn&#8217;t work&#8221; because it makes a better sound bite, but if so, they haven&#8217;t thought it through very well.</p>
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		<title>By: ~</title>
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		<dc:creator>~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason this is a no-brainer is because there is no downside.  The idea that it will encourage teenagers to have sex is purposterous and if required, I suppose someone could do a study to debunk sich ridiculousness.

And the reason some things are legislated is because some people don&#039;t know how to care for their children, period.  Any drug-addicted, abusive, nasty, neglectful, whacko out there can have a child.  Someone has to protect them because the people in their life cannot.  You have people who do not believe in medical treatment at all.  Well if their child gets sick and dies because they refused to take that child to the doctor, they should be prosecuted with manslaughter.  That&#039;s personal choice too.  It&#039;s just a whacked-out one.  You want to kill yourself by refusing medical treatment that&#039;s your business, you kill you child, and it&#039;s everyone&#039;s.

[By the way, if you don&#039;t immunize your child against this and they get it, think the child could sue you?  I&#039;m guessing some smart lawyer could figure out a way to do that.]

Make a logical argument to me about why you don&#039;t want your child getting a vaccine that has any legitamacy and I might change my mind, but if all you can scrape together is a &quot;sky is falling&quot; children-having-more-sex argument, that&#039;s a little to small to matter compared to the protection of a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason this is a no-brainer is because there is no downside.  The idea that it will encourage teenagers to have sex is purposterous and if required, I suppose someone could do a study to debunk sich ridiculousness.</p>
<p>And the reason some things are legislated is because some people don&#8217;t know how to care for their children, period.  Any drug-addicted, abusive, nasty, neglectful, whacko out there can have a child.  Someone has to protect them because the people in their life cannot.  You have people who do not believe in medical treatment at all.  Well if their child gets sick and dies because they refused to take that child to the doctor, they should be prosecuted with manslaughter.  That&#8217;s personal choice too.  It&#8217;s just a whacked-out one.  You want to kill yourself by refusing medical treatment that&#8217;s your business, you kill you child, and it&#8217;s everyone&#8217;s.</p>
<p>[By the way, if you don't immunize your child against this and they get it, think the child could sue you?  I'm guessing some smart lawyer could figure out a way to do that.]</p>
<p>Make a logical argument to me about why you don&#8217;t want your child getting a vaccine that has any legitamacy and I might change my mind, but if all you can scrape together is a &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; children-having-more-sex argument, that&#8217;s a little to small to matter compared to the protection of a child.</p>
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		<title>By: Hance</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/01/decide-virginity-or-death/comment-page-1/#comment-76183</link>
		<dc:creator>Hance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A simple cost/benefit says they are probably right. Lowering the cost of sexual activity likely leads to negative side effects like cervical cancer. If the cure for HIV was discovered would it have an increasing, decreasing or zero effect on teenage (or any age) sexual activity.  Is the cure worth it? Probably</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple cost/benefit says they are probably right. Lowering the cost of sexual activity likely leads to negative side effects like cervical cancer. If the cure for HIV was discovered would it have an increasing, decreasing or zero effect on teenage (or any age) sexual activity.  Is the cure worth it? Probably</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Ima Fish&quot;&gt;The radical religious Right is against stem cell research, in part, because it’s speculative. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you know the difference between stem cell research and embryonic stem cell research?  Feel free to say no, since you obviously don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Ima Fish"><p>The radical religious Right is against stem cell research, in part, because it’s speculative. </p></blockquote>
<p>Do you know the difference between stem cell research and embryonic stem cell research?  Feel free to say no, since you obviously don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t this really be a teenager and their parents need to make the decision themselves?  I really don&#039;t think it is the responsibility for others to push this on my kids.  Additionally these are the same people who advocate abortions without parental consent.  We need to understand parents are responsible for the care of their children and need to be allow to make these decisions.  I think many conservatives are tired of liberals telling them how to raise their children!

Do you really think it is best to wish any disease on anyone for exercising free-will?  That is a careless if not uncaring remark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t this really be a teenager and their parents need to make the decision themselves?  I really don&#8217;t think it is the responsibility for others to push this on my kids.  Additionally these are the same people who advocate abortions without parental consent.  We need to understand parents are responsible for the care of their children and need to be allow to make these decisions.  I think many conservatives are tired of liberals telling them how to raise their children!</p>
<p>Do you really think it is best to wish any disease on anyone for exercising free-will?  That is a careless if not uncaring remark.</p>
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		<title>By: AB CD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AB CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hepatitis B vaccine is being forced on school kids the same way.  Strange how people who usually object to corporations making money off children have no problem if it suits their agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hepatitis B vaccine is being forced on school kids the same way.  Strange how people who usually object to corporations making money off children have no problem if it suits their agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: garym</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/01/decide-virginity-or-death/comment-page-1/#comment-76158</link>
		<dc:creator>garym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I&#039;m conservative, and proud of it.

However, I agree with Tug&#039;s comments 100%.  

The difference between a sexually transmitted disease and any other communicable disease is that STDs  occur between willing participants.  If I refuse to get my children immunized for measles and there is an outbreak in the area, my children may get measles whether they were willing participants or not.

As far as this particular vaccination goes, I like Smith would gladly  pay to get my children immunized against HPV.  This is an issue for parents, not government.  

Being a good parent means taking the necessary precautions to ensure your children&#039;s health.   It also means teaching your children to respect others and themselves.  If that means abstaining from premarital sex, then teach them that abstinence is the only 100% way to prevent sexually transmitted diseases such as HPV.

&quot;Promoting the general  welfare&quot; doesn&#039;t mean usurping my rights as a parent to accept or decline medical treatment for my children.  It doesn&#039;t mean that the government can overrule my children&#039;s rights to an education because they (the powers that be) feel they know how to raise my children better than I.  It means that they make the research available and provide me with the options and knowledge I need to make my decision and perform my responsibilities as a parent.  Which, as Ryan said, is to &quot;Parent your kids and help them make good decisions.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I&#8217;m conservative, and proud of it.</p>
<p>However, I agree with Tug&#8217;s comments 100%.  </p>
<p>The difference between a sexually transmitted disease and any other communicable disease is that STDs  occur between willing participants.  If I refuse to get my children immunized for measles and there is an outbreak in the area, my children may get measles whether they were willing participants or not.</p>
<p>As far as this particular vaccination goes, I like Smith would gladly  pay to get my children immunized against HPV.  This is an issue for parents, not government.  </p>
<p>Being a good parent means taking the necessary precautions to ensure your children&#8217;s health.   It also means teaching your children to respect others and themselves.  If that means abstaining from premarital sex, then teach them that abstinence is the only 100% way to prevent sexually transmitted diseases such as HPV.</p>
<p>&#8220;Promoting the general  welfare&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean usurping my rights as a parent to accept or decline medical treatment for my children.  It doesn&#8217;t mean that the government can overrule my children&#8217;s rights to an education because they (the powers that be) feel they know how to raise my children better than I.  It means that they make the research available and provide me with the options and knowledge I need to make my decision and perform my responsibilities as a parent.  Which, as Ryan said, is to &#8220;Parent your kids and help them make good decisions.&#8221;</p>
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