Comments on: Thanksgiving Proclamation by Abraham Lincoln http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bob http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-360271 bob Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:36:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3373#comment-360271 you are extremely write. My history teacher won't even use the textbooks becouse they are so off on more than just this subject. you are extremely write. My history teacher won’t even use the textbooks becouse they are so off on more than just this subject.

]]> By: Mike Voice http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-79851 Mike Voice Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:11:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3373#comment-79851 <i>2. MV — nice to see we agree that Dubya is speaking to a 19th Century mindset. </i> Yes, I just <i>know</i> he would like to give that kind of speech - and that his 'base" would love to hear him give it. :( But, could Dubya be that eloquent without a box strapped to his back? 2. MV — nice to see we agree that Dubya is speaking to a 19th Century mindset.

Yes, I just know he would like to give that kind of speech – and that his ‘base” would love to hear him give it. :(

But, could Dubya be that eloquent without a box strapped to his back?

]]> By: maria mulford http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-79661 maria mulford Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:21:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3373#comment-79661 presidential lies. somebody lied and turkeys died. presidential lies. somebody lied and turkeys died.

]]> By: site admin http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-79596 site admin Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:17:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3373#comment-79596 MV, that speech was appropriate for its time -- almost 150 years ago! If anyone gave that speech (or any other of that era) today, they'd be seen as lunatics. Unless they were in Kansas, of course. MV, that speech was appropriate for its time — almost 150 years ago! If anyone gave that speech (or any other of that era) today, they’d be seen as lunatics. Unless they were in Kansas, of course.

]]> By: Eideard http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-79586 Eideard Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:26:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3373#comment-79586 1. Don't know where John gets his turkey -- and which variation on the theme -- but, we had a free range critter from a ranch up in Colorado that specialized in heritage birds. I just had to be a bit more careful because even the dark meat is a little less fat than the supermarket variety. Got it, here in NM through Whole Foods chain. 2. MV -- nice to see we agree that Dubya is speaking to a 19th Century mindset. 1. Don’t know where John gets his turkey — and which variation on the theme — but, we had a free range critter from a ranch up in Colorado that specialized in heritage birds. I just had to be a bit more careful because even the dark meat is a little less fat than the supermarket variety. Got it, here in NM through Whole Foods chain.

2. MV — nice to see we agree that Dubya is speaking to a 19th Century mindset.

]]> By: Mike Voice http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-79575 Mike Voice Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:35:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3373#comment-79575 I was reading Lincoln's speech this morning, in my local paper, and couldn't help grinning about how it would "play" today, amidst the current "separation of church and state" arguments. Can't you just imagine the furor if Dubya were to give such a speech? :) I was reading Lincoln’s speech this morning, in my local paper, and couldn’t help grinning about how it would “play” today, amidst the current “separation of church and state” arguments.

Can’t you just imagine the furor if Dubya were to give such a speech? :)

]]> By: Michael Cuthbnertson http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-79567 Michael Cuthbnertson Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:30:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3373#comment-79567 John: How about giving us poor benighted supermarket-turkey eaters the lowdown on the "old-fashioned" bird you like? John:
How about giving us poor benighted supermarket-turkey eaters the lowdown on the “old-fashioned” bird you like?

]]> By: kzoodata http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation-by-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-79542 kzoodata Thu, 24 Nov 2005 14:52:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3373#comment-79542 Well, it's not *entirely* cock-and-bull. Quipped from a man who had more than one English Diners Club card. The Real Story of the First Thanksgiving By Benjamin Franklin (1785) “There is a tradition that in the planting of New England, the first settlers met with many difficulties and hardships, as is generally the case when a civiliz’d people attempt to establish themselves in a wilderness country. Being so piously dispos’d, they sought relief from heaven by laying their wants and distresses before the Lord in frequent set days of fasting and prayer. Constant meditation and discourse on these subjects kept their minds gloomy and discontented, and like the children of Israel there were many dispos’d to return to the Egypt which persecution had induc’d them to abandon. “At length, when it was proposed in the Assembly to proclaim another fast, a farmer of plain sense rose and remark’d that the inconveniences they suffer’d, and concerning which they had so often weary’d heaven with their complaints, were not so great as they might have expected, and were diminishing every day as the colony strengthen’d; that the earth began to reward their labour and furnish liberally for their subsistence; that their seas and rivers were full of fish, the air sweet, the climate healthy, and above all, they were in the full enjoyment of liberty, civil and religious. “He therefore thought that reflecting and conversing on these subjects would be more comfortable and lead more to make them contented with their situation; and that it would be more becoming the gratitude they ow’d to the divine being, if instead of a fast they should proclaim a thanksgiving. His advice was taken, and from that day to this, they have in every year observ’d circumstances of public felicity sufficient to furnish employment for a Thanksgiving Day, which is therefore constantly ordered and religiously observed.” copped from http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=10447 I give the honors to the official Thanksgiving to both Lincoln and FDR, who gave it two days, to create a national Christmas shopping day, to boost the depressed economy. Well, it’s not *entirely* cock-and-bull. Quipped from a man who had more than one English Diners Club card.

The Real Story of the First Thanksgiving
By Benjamin Franklin (1785)

“There is a tradition that in the planting of New England, the first settlers met with many difficulties and hardships, as is generally the case when a civiliz’d people attempt to establish themselves in a wilderness country. Being so piously dispos’d, they sought relief from heaven by laying their wants and distresses before the Lord in frequent set days of fasting and prayer. Constant meditation and discourse on these subjects kept their minds gloomy and discontented, and like the children of Israel there were many dispos’d to return to the Egypt which persecution had induc’d them to abandon.

“At length, when it was proposed in the Assembly to proclaim another fast, a farmer of plain sense rose and remark’d that the inconveniences they suffer’d, and concerning which they had so often weary’d heaven with their complaints, were not so great as they might have expected, and were diminishing every day as the colony strengthen’d; that the earth began to reward their labour and furnish liberally for their subsistence; that their seas and rivers were full of fish, the air sweet, the climate healthy, and above all, they were in the full enjoyment of liberty, civil and religious.

“He therefore thought that reflecting and conversing on these subjects would be more comfortable and lead more to make them contented with their situation; and that it would be more becoming the gratitude they ow’d to the divine being, if instead of a fast they should proclaim a thanksgiving. His advice was taken, and from that day to this, they have in every year observ’d circumstances of public felicity sufficient to furnish employment for a Thanksgiving Day, which is therefore constantly ordered and religiously observed.”

copped from http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=10447

I give the honors to the official Thanksgiving to both Lincoln and FDR, who gave it two days, to create a national Christmas shopping day, to boost the depressed economy.

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