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		<title>By: site admin</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-2/#comment-81798</link>
		<dc:creator>site admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey..I post plenty..Marc..the OTHER SysAD jumps in using SiteAdmin although I need to change his moniker. He always identifies himself as such. but I need to fix that &quot;bug&quot; ..I usually do it after the fact...I did not say cops always lie..it&#039;s impossible. But they will do what anyone will do once in a while, cover up a mistake. Who doesn&#039;t?

I post plenty, but I do not get over involcved in the comment threads unless there is a misunderstanding or it goes off topic to an extreme.

&quot;the&quot; John C. Dvorak</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey..I post plenty..Marc..the OTHER SysAD jumps in using SiteAdmin although I need to change his moniker. He always identifies himself as such. but I need to fix that &#8220;bug&#8221; ..I usually do it after the fact&#8230;I did not say cops always lie..it&#8217;s impossible. But they will do what anyone will do once in a while, cover up a mistake. Who doesn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>I post plenty, but I do not get over involcved in the comment threads unless there is a misunderstanding or it goes off topic to an extreme.</p>
<p>&#8220;the&#8221; John C. Dvorak</p>
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		<title>By: Eideard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-2/#comment-81764</link>
		<dc:creator>Eideard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John said that in cases involving malicious or stupid behavior by the cops -- they always lie.  He also said there are justified shootings.

Context, context!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John said that in cases involving malicious or stupid behavior by the cops &#8212; they always lie.  He also said there are justified shootings.</p>
<p>Context, context!</p>
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		<title>By: AB CD</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-2/#comment-81750</link>
		<dc:creator>AB CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the flip side to that plane that flew lost around DC last year.  That hsould have been shot down, and the marshals didn&#039;t make that mistake this time.  I&#039;m glad they shot him, even though he didn&#039;t have a bomb.  It&#039;ll keep people careful.  I hope they&#039;re making sure this wasn&#039;t a test case of some sort by Al Qaeda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the flip side to that plane that flew lost around DC last year.  That hsould have been shot down, and the marshals didn&#8217;t make that mistake this time.  I&#8217;m glad they shot him, even though he didn&#8217;t have a bomb.  It&#8217;ll keep people careful.  I hope they&#8217;re making sure this wasn&#8217;t a test case of some sort by Al Qaeda.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81738</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post count went down after the first round of far-left ballyhoo. Haven&#039;t seen much of JCD since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post count went down after the first round of far-left ballyhoo. Haven&#8217;t seen much of JCD since.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81732</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smith... I&#039;m wondering too if John still posts here. I count 18 posts in the last two days -- 4 of them from site admin/John. Looks more like Eideard Uncensored to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smith&#8230; I&#8217;m wondering too if John still posts here. I count 18 posts in the last two days &#8212; 4 of them from site admin/John. Looks more like Eideard Uncensored to me.</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81716</link>
		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds the alarm - most cops aren&#039;t like that, I should know, but just like any profession, there are a few bad eggs from the shallow end of the gene pool who make it through.  My last comment was in reference to the site admin post who said that all cops lie all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds the alarm &#8211; most cops aren&#8217;t like that, I should know, but just like any profession, there are a few bad eggs from the shallow end of the gene pool who make it through.  My last comment was in reference to the site admin post who said that all cops lie all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81699</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Site Admin,
Cops always lie?  I think site admins always lie.  Am I right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Site Admin,<br />
Cops always lie?  I think site admins always lie.  Am I right?</p>
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		<title>By: Sounds the Alarm</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81694</link>
		<dc:creator>Sounds the Alarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry one last comment - gquaglia - you might have noticed from my first post I am on the Marshall&#039;s side, not that they need me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry one last comment &#8211; gquaglia &#8211; you might have noticed from my first post I am on the Marshall&#8217;s side, not that they need me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sounds the Alarm</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81692</link>
		<dc:creator>Sounds the Alarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gquaglia,

Yeah right - too much pot.

Actually I was sitting in the steps to my dorm with a dangerous coke can, when a campus cop came up and asked for my ID.  Since it was my dorm all I had was my key, not my ID.  I told him I had to get the ID and stood up to go inside.  He cracked me on the head with his cop flash and told me that &quot;he didn&#039;t say I could go anywhere&quot;.  Next he cracked my on the side of the knee and then arrested me for drunkenness.  

When I tested 0.0 he next said I assaulted him.  This would have screwed me tight given another cop who wasn&#039;t there backed him up.  Thank God I video caught what happened.  He got suspended and it was explained to me very carefully that if I sued all the campus cops would rack me up, one at a time.

So whats your story?  Someone mention that he had civil rights and you took it as a “lack of respect” and did just a little tap dance on his or her head?  Just to show &#039;em who had the gun, right?

BTW I left to go to another collage and sued.  Eventually I got both cops and the chief fired in place of any money.  Latter I found out they got jobs in Cincinnati.  Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gquaglia,</p>
<p>Yeah right &#8211; too much pot.</p>
<p>Actually I was sitting in the steps to my dorm with a dangerous coke can, when a campus cop came up and asked for my ID.  Since it was my dorm all I had was my key, not my ID.  I told him I had to get the ID and stood up to go inside.  He cracked me on the head with his cop flash and told me that &#8220;he didn&#8217;t say I could go anywhere&#8221;.  Next he cracked my on the side of the knee and then arrested me for drunkenness.  </p>
<p>When I tested 0.0 he next said I assaulted him.  This would have screwed me tight given another cop who wasn&#8217;t there backed him up.  Thank God I video caught what happened.  He got suspended and it was explained to me very carefully that if I sued all the campus cops would rack me up, one at a time.</p>
<p>So whats your story?  Someone mention that he had civil rights and you took it as a “lack of respect” and did just a little tap dance on his or her head?  Just to show &#8216;em who had the gun, right?</p>
<p>BTW I left to go to another collage and sued.  Eventually I got both cops and the chief fired in place of any money.  Latter I found out they got jobs in Cincinnati.  Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81646</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The marshalls should be rewarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The marshalls should be rewarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81597</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 05:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, if the Air Marshals hadn&#039;t shot him, and he did in fact have a bomb, they&#039;d be criticized for doing nothing. Lose-lose.
It&#039;s much easier to criticize in hindsight actions that need to be decided in a split second in a very tense moment.  
Sad as it may turn out to be when all the facts are out, I think they did the right thing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, if the Air Marshals hadn&#8217;t shot him, and he did in fact have a bomb, they&#8217;d be criticized for doing nothing. Lose-lose.<br />
It&#8217;s much easier to criticize in hindsight actions that need to be decided in a split second in a very tense moment.<br />
Sad as it may turn out to be when all the facts are out, I think they did the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81588</link>
		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 02:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Cops always lie and there is always a coverup when cops are either stupid or malicious.”.

Sounds like an anarcist philosphy to me.  What did you get too many speeding tickets?  Smoke too much pot and got busted?  I really hope you find yourself in a pickle one day and have to rely on a stupid and malicious cop.  Maybe your confusing this country with Mexico where the cops really are corrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Cops always lie and there is always a coverup when cops are either stupid or malicious.”.</p>
<p>Sounds like an anarcist philosphy to me.  What did you get too many speeding tickets?  Smoke too much pot and got busted?  I really hope you find yourself in a pickle one day and have to rely on a stupid and malicious cop.  Maybe your confusing this country with Mexico where the cops really are corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81581</link>
		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 01:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;m confused.  Now we learn that &quot;site admin&quot; may or may not be Dvorak.  Is this John Dvorak&#039;s site or not?  Does he even post here anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;m confused.  Now we learn that &#8220;site admin&#8221; may or may not be Dvorak.  Is this John Dvorak&#8217;s site or not?  Does he even post here anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81577</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 01:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHy is it that a medical problem is an excuse?  What if this &quot;Medical&quot; problem caused him to actully BRING a bomb on the plane? 

He was always a family man and enver got into trouble. We can&#039;t see HOW it was he killed all those people on that plane. 

My point is folks with a problem THAT bad SHOULD have their medicine with them. How is it it is our fault he went nuts. 

Yelling he had a bomb. If there were no Air Marshals around what would have folks said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHy is it that a medical problem is an excuse?  What if this &#8220;Medical&#8221; problem caused him to actully BRING a bomb on the plane? </p>
<p>He was always a family man and enver got into trouble. We can&#8217;t see HOW it was he killed all those people on that plane. </p>
<p>My point is folks with a problem THAT bad SHOULD have their medicine with them. How is it it is our fault he went nuts. </p>
<p>Yelling he had a bomb. If there were no Air Marshals around what would have folks said.</p>
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		<title>By: Sounds the Alarm</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2005/12/07/passenger-shot-on-florida-plane/comment-page-1/#comment-81569</link>
		<dc:creator>Sounds the Alarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 00:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry,

Most on this blog know my bents, but I don&#039;t see where the marshals had a choice.  He could have been crazy WITH a bomb.  Ranrons right - threats have to be taken seriously.

BTW gquaglia - I&#039;m the one who dispises cops.  All they are is mobile toll both collectors.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,</p>
<p>Most on this blog know my bents, but I don&#8217;t see where the marshals had a choice.  He could have been crazy WITH a bomb.  Ranrons right &#8211; threats have to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>BTW gquaglia &#8211; I&#8217;m the one who dispises cops.  All they are is mobile toll both collectors.</p>
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