Comments on: The Rumor that Won’t Die: The Google PC http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:38:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: garym http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85404 garym Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:04:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85404 You know what amazes me most about the original article that started this thread? In the very beginning the author states that he is predicting...he goes on to state that his sources are speculating...what they suspect might happen. Not once does the author state that these are facts. Yet, WalMart and Google both had to go make a public statement denying this. Why? Becsuse somebody partly read the article and apparently missed the parts that said "predict," "Suspect," and "Speculate." Talk about rumor mongering! You know what amazes me most about the original article that started this thread? In the very beginning the author states that he is predicting…he goes on to state that his sources are speculating…what they suspect might happen.
Not once does the author state that these are facts.
Yet, WalMart and Google both had to go make a public statement denying this. Why? Becsuse somebody partly read the article and apparently missed the parts that said “predict,” “Suspect,” and “Speculate.”
Talk about rumor mongering!

]]> By: garym http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85399 garym Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:51:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85399 A Google appliance the size of an external hard drive would definitely be intriguing. Give it a LAN connection, an OS that requires very little user interaction. Set it up as a proxy search engine on a home network. And give it the smarts to see what you're currently browsing and search for any additional or related links in the background. If you find a topic you want to find more on it serves up the page that it already cached locally. At the same time, it could perform local searches and store them off the system's internal drive so it isn't taking up space there, not that space is much of a consideration any more, but I think people would notice the intrusion less if they don't see a giant index of all their files on a local hard drive. Link that with the Google Vans that Bob Cringley wrote about, and suddenly Google has not only bought the Internet, we as users have helped them by financing the missing piece...our personal information. A Google appliance the size of an external hard drive would definitely be intriguing. Give it a LAN connection, an OS that requires very little user interaction. Set it up as a proxy search engine on a home network. And give it the smarts to see what you’re currently browsing and search for any additional or related links in the background. If you find a topic you want to find more on it serves up the page that it already cached locally.
At the same time, it could perform local searches and store them off the system’s internal drive so it isn’t taking up space there, not that space is much of a consideration any more, but I think people would notice the intrusion less if they don’t see a giant index of all their files on a local hard drive.
Link that with the Google Vans that Bob Cringley wrote about, and suddenly Google has not only bought the Internet, we as users have helped them by financing the missing piece…our personal information.

]]> By: pond http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85374 pond Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:49:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85374 Another Idea. The 'Google Internet Box' could be as much a PC as a ReplayTV DVR. it doesn't compete with MS Windows but is an add-on. It could come with StarOffice/Google office in a portable edition, storing your documents on the drive locally. It coud include a firewall. It could include Google Search that will index all your local hard drives. It could also be a source of Google Video in a bit-torrent way. Bob Cringely speculated on Google creating a phantom internet using half-billion dollar trailer-sized server farms. But what if Google could get all of us to buy Google Internet Boxes that would do something similar on Google's behalf? It needn't be big. It could be the size of a Mac Mini -- only shorter since it wouldn't need the optical drive. Or it could be a 1.8" drive, the size of the Imation USB 'Padlock' drive, and be truly portable. Carry around with you all your Google maps, your GMail, your saved Google searches, your Google media, your Google/portable StarOffice documents, your Google Talk account with saved, recorded conversations, your Google Radio... Another Idea.

The ‘Google Internet Box’ could be as much a PC as a ReplayTV DVR. it doesn’t compete with MS Windows but is an add-on. It could come with StarOffice/Google office in a portable edition, storing your documents on the drive locally. It coud include a firewall. It could include Google Search that will index all your local hard drives. It could also be a source of Google Video in a bit-torrent way.

Bob Cringely speculated on Google creating a phantom internet using half-billion dollar trailer-sized server farms. But what if Google could get all of us to buy Google Internet Boxes that would do something similar on Google’s behalf?

It needn’t be big. It could be the size of a Mac Mini — only shorter since it wouldn’t need the optical drive.

Or it could be a 1.8″ drive, the size of the Imation USB ‘Padlock’ drive, and be truly portable.

Carry around with you all your Google maps, your GMail, your saved Google searches, your Google media, your Google/portable StarOffice documents, your Google Talk account with saved, recorded conversations, your Google Radio…

]]> By: g. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85360 g. Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:44:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85360 You mean <a href="http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2005/11/compoogle.html" rel="nofollow">the compoogle</a>? There is some rather obvious behind the scenes R&D funding of smaller companies going on, google definitely tries to out-nimble MS by not relying on a certain hardware platform. The "google cube" will most likely be defined as a set of software features (the above mentioned hardware beeing just one example) The game has already begun, have your popcorn ready for the great finals in q2 2006 when google tries not only to outperform the intel- and MS- but also the apple- hypemachine ;-) You mean the compoogle?
There is some rather obvious behind the scenes R&D funding of smaller companies going on, google definitely tries to out-nimble MS by not relying on a certain hardware platform. The “google cube” will most likely be defined as a set of software features (the above mentioned hardware beeing just one example) The game has already begun, have your popcorn ready for the great finals in q2 2006 when google tries not only to outperform the intel- and MS- but also the apple- hypemachine ;-)

]]> By: Incognito http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85358 Incognito Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:11:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85358 It just died. Both Walmart and Google have spokesholes denying the pc. I do hope they do an OS sometime. It just died. Both Walmart and Google have spokesholes denying the pc.

I do hope they do an OS sometime.

]]> By: GregAllen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85355 GregAllen Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:23:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85355 >>But what if the suspicions of some IT folks are true: that Google is a plant of the US Intelligence (a misnomer) established to entice users with a system open to prying eyes. I don't know about a "plant" but it it seems that that government's "data mining" of US citizens would not be possible without the cooperation of private industry. At least according to several people on the show that Talk of Nation did yesterday: "Homeland Security in the Digital Age" : http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5080992 A couple of the experts stated mattter-of-factly that this was clearly illegal but the host refused to pursue that line of discussion. What happened to "liberal" NPR? >>But what if the suspicions of some IT folks are true: that Google is a plant of the US Intelligence (a misnomer) established to entice users with a system open to prying eyes.

I don’t know about a “plant” but it it seems that that government’s “data mining” of US citizens would not be possible without the cooperation of private industry. At least according to several people on the show that Talk of Nation did yesterday: “Homeland Security in the Digital Age” :

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5080992

A couple of the experts stated mattter-of-factly that this was clearly illegal but the host refused to pursue that line of discussion. What happened to “liberal” NPR?

]]> By: Hal Jordan http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85346 Hal Jordan Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:49:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85346 "I’m shocked that Google is willing to compete with Microsoft head-on. This will certainly be a zero sum ploy as Microsoft will never give Google a second chance. " But what if the suspicions of some IT folks are true: that Google is a plant of the US Intelligence (a misnomer) established to entice users with a system open to prying eyes. One reason for their skepticism is the Google database that seems to have come out of nowhere, easily defeating the voluminous Alta Vista DB which had been collated for over five years. Folks think that the reason why a Johnny-come-lately start-up like Google had these resources, at a time when hard drives and deployment of spiders did not come cheap, was that it was using the DB of the CIA. If this is true, what better to equip the target market with a PC that is locked into the Google system. If they succeed, people will be buying machines that will enable the US Govt. to make them more visible. Very promising. Talk about getting your cake and eatin it too! “I’m shocked that Google is willing to compete with Microsoft head-on. This will certainly be a zero sum ploy as Microsoft will never give Google a second chance. ”

But what if the suspicions of some IT folks are true: that Google is a plant of the US Intelligence (a misnomer) established to entice users with a system open to prying eyes. One reason for their skepticism is the Google database that seems to have come out of nowhere, easily defeating the voluminous Alta Vista DB which had been collated for over five years. Folks think that the reason why a Johnny-come-lately start-up like Google had these resources, at a time when hard drives and deployment of spiders did not come cheap, was that it was using the DB of the CIA.

If this is true, what better to equip the target market with a PC that is locked into the Google system. If they succeed, people will be buying machines that will enable the US Govt. to make them more visible. Very promising. Talk about getting your cake and eatin it too!

]]> By: GregAllen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85340 GregAllen Wed, 04 Jan 2006 03:55:20 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85340 Finally! Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. I LIKE Microsoft products but I HATE monopolies. (But, of course, Google is also becoming a monopoly. I guess that's the way it goes. ) Linux is useable, (once installed) but it is just not suitable for the average computer user since it is so dang hard to install anything. But Google knows how to make things easy. IF they make a computer, it's going to be easy. You can count on that. Finally! Welcome. Welcome. Welcome.

I LIKE Microsoft products but I HATE monopolies.

(But, of course, Google is also becoming a monopoly. I guess that’s the way it goes. )

Linux is useable, (once installed) but it is just not suitable for the average computer user since it is so dang hard to install anything.

But Google knows how to make things easy. IF they make a computer, it’s going to be easy. You can count on that.

]]> By: Awake http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85319 Awake Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:32:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85319 Ho Hum. The OS adds only about $100 to a system... and you need a very complete OS to even start to satisfy today's consumer. So the price of the OS is really not a factor,and a barebones 'browser centric' system is of little interest to almost anyone. Apple is very popular despite it's price, specially with entry-level consumers that just want something simple to use. People talk about the Google Word Processor like that is some kind of killer-app that we have all been waiting for, when in reality there are plenty of free solutions in that area. So that doesn't matter either. Google is positioning itself as the new "ultra Smart" Yellow Pages, and that is their strength. Cell-Phones, personal organizers, wristwatches will all be 'Google enabled', and just like in the past where if you wanted to be in business you needed to list in the Yellow Pages, now you will need to list yourself with Google. But a Google web-centric OS? The main question is why should we care about that concept at all? Just to stick a finger in MS's eye? MS is more worried about people getting smart and using OpenOffice on their Win systems than they are about a new barebones OS. Ho Hum.
The OS adds only about $100 to a system… and you need a very complete OS to even start to satisfy today’s consumer. So the price of the OS is really not a factor,and a barebones ‘browser centric’ system is of little interest to almost anyone. Apple is very popular despite it’s price, specially with entry-level consumers that just want something simple to use.
People talk about the Google Word Processor like that is some kind of killer-app that we have all been waiting for, when in reality there are plenty of free solutions in that area. So that doesn’t matter either.
Google is positioning itself as the new “ultra Smart” Yellow Pages, and that is their strength. Cell-Phones, personal organizers, wristwatches will all be ‘Google enabled’, and just like in the past where if you wanted to be in business you needed to list in the Yellow Pages, now you will need to list yourself with Google.
But a Google web-centric OS? The main question is why should we care about that concept at all? Just to stick a finger in MS’s eye? MS is more worried about people getting smart and using OpenOffice on their Win systems than they are about a new barebones OS.

]]> By: Jeremy Robbins http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85318 Jeremy Robbins Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:30:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85318 Remeber back in the day when all of them didn't know what the hell was going on so all the Big Guys got into bed with each other. (MS/Apple) Apple can make the OS, and get MS to Make it cheap for them, Google can provide all the networking functions as well as search, hmm in my small idea there really is no room for MS. So forget all that I just said. Apple, Google and Amazon need to get together. Remeber back in the day when all of them didn’t know what the hell was going on so all the Big Guys got into bed with each other. (MS/Apple)

Apple can make the OS, and get MS to Make it cheap for them, Google can provide all the networking functions as well as search, hmm in my small idea there really is no room for MS. So forget all that I just said.

Apple, Google and Amazon need to get together.

]]> By: putkowski http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85312 putkowski Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:08:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85312 Hey Lou, see Nokia 770 - 800x480 16 bit color GNU-Debian linux plays music and movies Opera browser RSS reader 4+ hours 802.11g/b bluetooth Hey Lou,

see Nokia 770 –

800×480 16 bit color
GNU-Debian linux
plays music and movies
Opera browser
RSS reader
4+ hours
802.11g/b
bluetooth

]]> By: putkowski http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85311 putkowski Wed, 04 Jan 2006 00:03:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85311 The only funny thing about this rumor is that if it proves to be true, the biggest story will be what Google chooses to call it. It's bound to be good. Then everyone will catch-on. A "what-cha-ma-callit" running linux and giving transparent web use of OpenOffice and the file-system expertise (a-suck-up-word) already shown by Google could be very good for Microsoft puts from 12 to 18 months out. The only funny thing about this rumor is that if it proves to be true, the biggest story will be what Google chooses to call it.

It’s bound to be good.

Then everyone will catch-on.

A “what-cha-ma-callit” running linux and giving transparent web use of OpenOffice and the file-system expertise (a-suck-up-word) already shown by Google could be very good for Microsoft puts from 12 to 18 months out.

]]> By: garym http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85300 garym Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:18:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85300 It is a prediction. It is a prediction.

]]> By: Brady J. Frey http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85296 Brady J. Frey Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:03:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85296 Rock! I'm with Lou, I'd love a light little internet console... either way, if this is true, it's great news. I look forward to another player in the market. Rock!

I’m with Lou, I’d love a light little internet console… either way, if this is true, it’s great news. I look forward to another player in the market.

]]> By: RTaylor http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/01/03/the-rumor-that-wont-die-the-google-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-85295 RTaylor Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:00:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=3772#comment-85295 All previous attempts has failed, but sooner or later someone will hit the computer home appliance bonanza. In the past hardware costs and bandwidth has been huge hurdles. Could be the time is now right. You have to ask the question why MS is so paranoid about Google. Maybe it's not paranoia. Apple could have done this with the Mac mini, but probably lacked the resources and desire. Something like this is better pulled of by a young ambitious company, like MS once was. Google is positioning itself for something big. All previous attempts has failed, but sooner or later someone will hit the computer home appliance bonanza. In the past hardware costs and bandwidth has been huge hurdles. Could be the time is now right. You have to ask the question why MS is so paranoid about Google. Maybe it’s not paranoia. Apple could have done this with the Mac mini, but probably lacked the resources and desire. Something like this is better pulled of by a young ambitious company, like MS once was. Google is positioning itself for something big.

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