Comments on: Gendarmes dump IE http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/06/gendarmes-dump-ie/ General interest observations and true web-log. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:47:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Pat http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/06/gendarmes-dump-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-92184 Pat Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:10:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4149#comment-92184 Is this part of the back lash because M$ won't share the source code for Windows? Maybe the French Police don't want to be held hostage to M$. Is this part of the back lash because M$ won’t share the source code for Windows?

Maybe the French Police don’t want to be held hostage to M$.

]]> By: gquaglia http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/06/gendarmes-dump-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-91822 gquaglia Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:51:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4149#comment-91822 Its one thing for a website to be slightly buggy on Firefox, Opera, ect, buts its quite another when the website is designed to work with IE and only IE leaving other users high and dry. Now this wouldn't be so much a problem for Windows users, but for mac and linux users, there is no IE and no way to view the page. M$ is doing the same thing with Media Player, dropping suport for all except is Windows platform while at the same time forcing its WMV on everyone as the defacto web standard (Bill Gate's vision anyway) that only plays well on Media Player. Its one thing for a website to be slightly buggy on Firefox, Opera, ect, buts its quite another when the website is designed to work with IE and only IE leaving other users high and dry. Now this wouldn’t be so much a problem for Windows users, but for mac and linux users, there is no IE and no way to view the page. M$ is doing the same thing with Media Player, dropping suport for all except is Windows platform while at the same time forcing its WMV on everyone as the defacto web standard (Bill Gate’s vision anyway) that only plays well on Media Player.

]]> By: Gregory http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/06/gendarmes-dump-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-91788 Gregory Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:29:57 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4149#comment-91788 For the love of God... I'm a standards advocate, and I strong believe in the whole "web professional" thing... but bitching about some minor validation errors (especially the & thing) is counter productive. I agree that it is easy to validate, but every browser displays those little errors fine. Lets start with the big stuff that actually breaks browsers first? Both IE and FF (and Opera & Safari for that matter) still have bugs that make web design very annoying. IE7 seems to be heading the right way.. or at least catching up a bit. Lets pick our battles and not come across as arrogant, irelevant, zealots huh? For the love of God…

I’m a standards advocate, and I strong believe in the whole “web professional” thing… but bitching about some minor validation errors (especially the & thing) is counter productive.

I agree that it is easy to validate, but every browser displays those little errors fine. Lets start with the big stuff that actually breaks browsers first? Both IE and FF (and Opera & Safari for that matter) still have bugs that make web design very annoying. IE7 seems to be heading the right way.. or at least catching up a bit.

Lets pick our battles and not come across as arrogant, irelevant, zealots huh?

]]> By: C. Flowers http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/06/gendarmes-dump-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-91761 C. Flowers Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:14:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4149#comment-91761 It's about time the "mainstream" world is figuring out how great FireFox is! It’s about time the “mainstream” world is figuring out how great FireFox is!

]]> By: Brady J. Frey http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/06/gendarmes-dump-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-91760 Brady J. Frey Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:13:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4149#comment-91760 If you're not building for standards, you've lost your edge in our business, and you aren't a web professional. Mine, and other industry designers, growing client redesign list from other firms is very telling of this. Does this mean that dvorak.org will hire a professional to fix their lame bugs, and outdated use of the break tag:)? You've got 292 errors in this page alone -- half of them because you need to properly use closed tags in xhtml or, if you're not experienced enough, just start using html (for the love of god, code an ampersand properly): http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvorak.org%2Fblog%2F%3Fp%3D4149 Until that time, i'm not so sure why you're happy posting about firefox's adoption? Your site is part of the problem. And no crying that it's near impossible to validate -- there are many, more complex sites, that do it with ease. If you’re not building for standards, you’ve lost your edge in our business, and you aren’t a web professional. Mine, and other industry designers, growing client redesign list from other firms is very telling of this.

Does this mean that dvorak.org will hire a professional to fix their lame bugs, and outdated use of the break tag:)? You’ve got 292 errors in this page alone — half of them because you need to properly use closed tags in xhtml or, if you’re not experienced enough, just start using html (for the love of god, code an ampersand properly):
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvorak.org%2Fblog%2F%3Fp%3D4149

Until that time, i’m not so sure why you’re happy posting about firefox’s adoption? Your site is part of the problem.

And no crying that it’s near impossible to validate — there are many, more complex sites, that do it with ease.

]]> By: gquaglia http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/06/gendarmes-dump-ie/comment-page-1/#comment-91753 gquaglia Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:52:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4149#comment-91753 Great, now you just have to get all the bone head webmasters to stop making their website hostile to anything other then IE. Great, now you just have to get all the bone head webmasters to stop making their website hostile to anything other then IE.

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