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	<title>Comments on: Illinois Student Editors Suspended Over Cartoon Controversy</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Baird</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95900</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Baird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder, if it were Christians or Jews that were offended, would there be any uproar at all? As noted in the link posted by John in #6, how much should society accomodate those that are assimilated? I hope Western society is finally recognizing the folly of kowtowing to militaristic zealots. We can stand up to them or be crushed by them. It would be nice if there were a peaceful option, but the Islamists seem hell-bent on denying it to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder, if it were Christians or Jews that were offended, would there be any uproar at all? As noted in the link posted by John in #6, how much should society accomodate those that are assimilated? I hope Western society is finally recognizing the folly of kowtowing to militaristic zealots. We can stand up to them or be crushed by them. It would be nice if there were a peaceful option, but the Islamists seem hell-bent on denying it to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95843</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sbdot

Your post about “closet racists” is completely out of line. Yes, there are comments that occasionally show up here. But the vast majority of responses are people speaking their beliefs. And guess what. This is called “Freedom of Speech”. The theme of this particular blog. Are you advocating suppression of speech?


Before you start calling people names, maybe you should look in the mirror. 

“&lt;i&gt;An outlet for my delusions of grandeur.&lt;/i&gt;” The opening from sbot&#039;s website.

Some more subject titles found at your web site, apparently posted by you.

&lt;i&gt;”Hey, who knew that I would be right about ass-wiping with the Koran”
“Why you should NOT talk openly with your kids about sex”
“A rant about stupid young women”
“Oooh... Someone just gave me an idea: A &#039;Gay Pride&#039; rant”
“Jack Layton in Gay Pride, the Liberals with their Civil Marriage Act and why I&#039;ll vote for any stiff that the Conservatives put on display come next election”
&quot;Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<p>Your post about “closet racists” is completely out of line. Yes, there are comments that occasionally show up here. But the vast majority of responses are people speaking their beliefs. And guess what. This is called “Freedom of Speech”. The theme of this particular blog. Are you advocating suppression of speech?</p>
<p>Before you start calling people names, maybe you should look in the mirror. </p>
<p>“<i>An outlet for my delusions of grandeur.</i>” The opening from sbot&#8217;s website.</p>
<p>Some more subject titles found at your web site, apparently posted by you.</p>
<p><i>”Hey, who knew that I would be right about ass-wiping with the Koran”<br />
“Why you should NOT talk openly with your kids about sex”<br />
“A rant about stupid young women”<br />
“Oooh&#8230; Someone just gave me an idea: A &#8216;Gay Pride&#8217; rant”<br />
“Jack Layton in Gay Pride, the Liberals with their Civil Marriage Act and why I&#8217;ll vote for any stiff that the Conservatives put on display come next election”<br />
&#8220;Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95826</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; As I expected, that was not the case. 

Nobody wants to &quot;smack around&quot; those of a certain race or religion.  The criterion for getting &quot;smacked around&quot; is rioting in the streets, burning down embassies, or putting million-dollar bounties on  the heads of guys who draw innocuous cartoons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; As I expected, that was not the case. </p>
<p>Nobody wants to &#8220;smack around&#8221; those of a certain race or religion.  The criterion for getting &#8220;smacked around&#8221; is rioting in the streets, burning down embassies, or putting million-dollar bounties on  the heads of guys who draw innocuous cartoons.</p>
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		<title>By: sbdot</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbdot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 15:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I figured I would check one last time to see if you had the nerve to post my comment calling you, Dvorak, out as the closet racist you are in allowing people to post suggestions that those belonging to a certain race or religion be smacked around.  As I expected, that was not the case.  You can take pride in knowing that you are no different than the &#039;crazy&#039; muslims that you continuously mock.  Good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figured I would check one last time to see if you had the nerve to post my comment calling you, Dvorak, out as the closet racist you are in allowing people to post suggestions that those belonging to a certain race or religion be smacked around.  As I expected, that was not the case.  You can take pride in knowing that you are no different than the &#8216;crazy&#8217; muslims that you continuously mock.  Good day.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95616</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The violent action by the muslim community only re-affirms the nature of the cartoon. Today a muslim cleric offered 1 million dollars for the death of the creater of the cartoon. That is the nail in the coffin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The violent action by the muslim community only re-affirms the nature of the cartoon. Today a muslim cleric offered 1 million dollars for the death of the creater of the cartoon. That is the nail in the coffin.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 01:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brings to mind The Prisoner episode where everybody called him &quot;Unmutual.&quot; Newspaper editors are supposed to have some courage. Had the Muslim community not had a conniption, it would have been decent for the papers not to run them out of respect. Having made the editorials news by burning and killing (for an editorial cartoon?), it is now almost a moral obligation to print them, showing the cause of the behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brings to mind The Prisoner episode where everybody called him &#8220;Unmutual.&#8221; Newspaper editors are supposed to have some courage. Had the Muslim community not had a conniption, it would have been decent for the papers not to run them out of respect. Having made the editorials news by burning and killing (for an editorial cartoon?), it is now almost a moral obligation to print them, showing the cause of the behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95449</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seriously doubt if the cabal that ousted the Editor in Chief and Opinions Editor have any future in journalism. From the short explanation for the editorial, it sounded like the two were saying “Hey there is some heat in the kitchen”. Well, if you can&#039;t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously doubt if the cabal that ousted the Editor in Chief and Opinions Editor have any future in journalism. From the short explanation for the editorial, it sounded like the two were saying “Hey there is some heat in the kitchen”. Well, if you can&#8217;t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Helzerman</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95440</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Helzerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest shocker for me is what utter crap the artwork  is on these things.  Looks like something a fifth grader would draw up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest shocker for me is what utter crap the artwork  is on these things.  Looks like something a fifth grader would draw up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95426</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoo boy.  I have to agree with Max.  They DO need a good smackdown.  Get a life, losers.  

And Interim Editor in Chief Shira Weissman needs a good spanking.  What&#039;s &quot;the way to do this&quot;?  Get a committee together, then publish the cartoons?  The Muslim community would have been just as pissed off then.  Or censor something that is of national and international importance (now, anyway) because some dickwads with no sense of humor will get their panties in a bunch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoo boy.  I have to agree with Max.  They DO need a good smackdown.  Get a life, losers.  </p>
<p>And Interim Editor in Chief Shira Weissman needs a good spanking.  What&#8217;s &#8220;the way to do this&#8221;?  Get a committee together, then publish the cartoons?  The Muslim community would have been just as pissed off then.  Or censor something that is of national and international importance (now, anyway) because some dickwads with no sense of humor will get their panties in a bunch?</p>
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		<title>By: site admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>site admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/02/danish_cartoon_.html&quot;&gt;The cartoons are here (click) &lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/02/danish_cartoon_.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The cartoons are here (click) </a></p>
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		<title>By: J. Cottrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Cottrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woktiny, here are the cartoons.  Gee, I hope I don&#039;t get fired for showing them too you.  I feel like I&#039;m trying to speak Kurdish in Istanbul...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bzkit/sets/72057594057992683/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woktiny, here are the cartoons.  Gee, I hope I don&#8217;t get fired for showing them too you.  I feel like I&#8217;m trying to speak Kurdish in Istanbul&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bzkit/sets/72057594057992683/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.flickr.com/photos/bzkit/sets/72057594057992683/' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/bzkit/sets/72057594057992683/</a></p>
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		<title>By: woktiny</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95396</link>
		<dc:creator>woktiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel another religions flame war coming on...
anyone actually seen these toons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel another religions flame war coming on&#8230;<br />
anyone actually seen these toons?</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/17/illinois-student-editors-suspended-over-cartoon-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-95391</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ever happend to courage and convictions?

This whole Danish caartoon thing is so stupid it makes me wretch.  Hell, I think we should be publishing them every day.  Let those arses riot in our streets - they need a good smackdown!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ever happend to courage and convictions?</p>
<p>This whole Danish caartoon thing is so stupid it makes me wretch.  Hell, I think we should be publishing them every day.  Let those arses riot in our streets &#8211; they need a good smackdown!</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s gotten to the point where I don&#039;t want to comment on these things any more.  This kind of stuff has become so common place it&#039;s not even a surprise.
The mainstream media sits and scratchs it&#039;s collective head wondering why blogs have become so pervasive.....well, send them this article....maybe, but I doubt it, they will get a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s gotten to the point where I don&#8217;t want to comment on these things any more.  This kind of stuff has become so common place it&#8217;s not even a surprise.<br />
The mainstream media sits and scratchs it&#8217;s collective head wondering why blogs have become so pervasive&#8230;..well, send them this article&#8230;.maybe, but I doubt it, they will get a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spineless wusses!

But I guess it&#039;s OK (read: safe) to print cartoons poking fun at Christianity/Catholithism, eh?  I see those all the time in our local rag, but they&#039;ve also been mute on the whole Dane cartoon controversy...  hmmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spineless wusses!</p>
<p>But I guess it&#8217;s OK (read: safe) to print cartoons poking fun at Christianity/Catholithism, eh?  I see those all the time in our local rag, but they&#8217;ve also been mute on the whole Dane cartoon controversy&#8230;  hmmmm&#8230;</p>
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