Comments on: Video of the Day — Flying Saucers! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:07:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: O'brien http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96877 O'brien Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:26:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96877 Correct me, if I'm wrong, but "Secret NASA Transmissions: The Smoking Gun" is the result of Martyn Stubbs investigations of over 200,000 hours of NASA downloads? Of course, the video doesn't show "flying saucers" or "little green man," but there's a lot interesting stuff, like what the hell are all those lights? Can't be stars, because they're too close to earth. They can't be cities, because their locations are easily identified on the earth's surface. What about those lights that shoot at increadible speeds, so it seems, at lower levels when other lights move unnatural angles at higher levels. "Falling stars" don't travel in parallel in a kind of orbit around the earth or do they? Some of the "space debris" maybe just that, but why does some of that debris - that is supposed to be on the lens taking the picture - run behind the object that is being taped - that is, behind the satellite with a tether. And, I think the formation of lights in the last segment is incredible. If these lights are natural phenomena, then they appear to be intelligent natural phenomena. Correct me, if I’m wrong, but “Secret NASA Transmissions: The Smoking Gun” is the result of Martyn Stubbs investigations of over 200,000 hours of NASA downloads? Of course, the video doesn’t show “flying saucers” or “little green man,” but there’s a lot interesting stuff, like what the hell are all those lights? Can’t be stars, because they’re too close to earth. They can’t be cities, because their locations are easily identified on the earth’s surface. What about those lights that shoot at increadible speeds, so it seems, at lower levels when other lights move unnatural angles at higher levels. “Falling stars” don’t travel in parallel in a kind of orbit around the earth or do they? Some of the “space debris” maybe just that, but why does some of that debris – that is supposed to be on the lens taking the picture – run behind the object that is being taped – that is, behind the satellite with a tether. And, I think the formation of lights in the last segment is incredible. If these lights are natural phenomena, then they appear to be intelligent natural phenomena.

]]> By: William Wise http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96751 William Wise Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:12:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96751 Apoplectic, Or it could be that authentic UFO sightings are extremely rare and unpredictable events. Have you ever seen a fireball or bolide meteor? Even if you have (lucky you) most sky gazers never will. It's undboutedly the case that at least 90% of phenomena reported as UFOs would be identifiable to a properly trained observer. It's the relatively small number of observations made by credible, capable observers that are truly of interest. (Sightings made by pilots and astronomers, for example.) Of this interesting subset of cases I find radar-visual cases the most compelling. Will Apoplectic,

Or it could be that authentic UFO sightings are extremely rare and unpredictable events. Have you ever seen a fireball or bolide meteor? Even if you have (lucky you) most sky gazers never will.

It’s undboutedly the case that at least 90% of phenomena reported as UFOs would be identifiable to a properly trained observer. It’s the relatively small number of observations made by credible, capable observers that are truly of interest. (Sightings made by pilots and astronomers, for example.) Of this interesting subset of cases I find radar-visual cases the most compelling.

Will

]]> By: apoplectic pundit http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96703 apoplectic pundit Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:05:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96703 I'm an enthusiastic amateur stargazer, quite often going out and looking at the brilliant night sky in these mountains where I live. But I have yet to spot anything unusual that isn't just another airplane or satelllite going by. Gee I'd love to catch one of these UFO's people are always talking about. Why can't I see one? Is there something wrong with me? No lie, I'm fascinated with the whole UFO thing, and have heard about the 'black triangle' objects that are possibly the latest thing in ET conveyance... colored lights on their points... cool stuff! But, sadly, they never seem to drive by where I live (although many folks in this area have reported them). Maybe it's just that only <em>certain</em> people are privileged to view these things. What a bummer... I’m an enthusiastic amateur stargazer, quite often going out and looking at the brilliant night sky in these mountains where I live. But I have yet to spot anything unusual that isn’t just another airplane or satelllite going by. Gee I’d love to catch one of these UFO’s people are always talking about. Why can’t I see one? Is there something wrong with me?

No lie, I’m fascinated with the whole UFO thing, and have heard about the ‘black triangle’ objects that are possibly the latest thing in ET conveyance… colored lights on their points… cool stuff! But, sadly, they never seem to drive by where I live (although many folks in this area have reported them). Maybe it’s just that only certain people are privileged to view these things.

What a bummer…

]]> By: Dan dD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96651 Dan dD Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:46:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96651 I actually saw a UFO with some people, it was a triangular bright light which flew around in bizarre formations. It was covered in the local and national press as it was picked up on RAF radars. This however, is space debris. The magnect fields up there are crazy, to me this just looks like space debris being pulled around by them. Although I would like to see a video proving the existence of ufo's, this isn't convincing. I actually saw a UFO with some people, it was a triangular bright light which flew around in bizarre formations. It was covered in the local and national press as it was picked up on RAF radars. This however, is space debris. The magnect fields up there are crazy, to me this just looks like space debris being pulled around by them. Although I would like to see a video proving the existence of ufo’s, this isn’t convincing.

]]> By: William Wise http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96537 William Wise Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:25:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96537 There's some decent analysis of some of the NASA footage available on the Internet: These deal with STS-48 (Space Shuttle Mission 48) footage: http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/sts-48.htm James O'berg does the best job of presenting the "prosaic" case while Lan Flemming does a good job of presenting the "unusual" case. Overall, the tone of this video is lame. You've got to prove an unusual phenomenon actually exists before you can begin to hypothesize about what it might actually be. Unexplained natural phenomena need to be ruled out before you can jump to an ET conclusion. But, people want to believe so "the facts be damned!" much as with religion. Are UFO reports interesting? Yes. Do they deserve better treatment than to be laughed off? Yep. Are they proof of ET visitation? No by my standards but your mileage may vary. The bottom line is that if you are optimistic that humans will one day achieve intersteller travel AND are optimistic about the possibility of extraterrestrial life evolving elsewhere in our galaxy then you should be interested in UFO phenomena. That said, the proof that reported UFO phenomena represent ET visitation hasn't been made yet (at least to my satisfaction) and mainstream science appears to be ignoring the possibility because of the giggle factor. The more wacked out contactees and nut-balls who yell "ET is HERE!" the more no one with anything to lose is likely to take up the cause. Sad really. Will There’s some decent analysis of some of the NASA footage available on the Internet:

These deal with STS-48 (Space Shuttle Mission 48) footage:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/sts-48.htm

James O’berg does the best job of presenting the “prosaic” case while Lan Flemming does a good job of presenting the “unusual” case.

Overall, the tone of this video is lame. You’ve got to prove an unusual phenomenon actually exists before you can begin to hypothesize about what it might actually be. Unexplained natural phenomena need to be ruled out before you can jump to an ET conclusion. But, people want to believe so “the facts be damned!” much as with religion.

Are UFO reports interesting? Yes. Do they deserve better treatment than to be laughed off? Yep. Are they proof of ET visitation? No by my standards but your mileage may vary.

The bottom line is that if you are optimistic that humans will one day achieve intersteller travel AND are optimistic about the possibility of extraterrestrial life evolving elsewhere in our galaxy then you should be interested in UFO phenomena. That said, the proof that reported UFO phenomena represent ET visitation hasn’t been made yet (at least to my satisfaction) and mainstream science appears to be ignoring the possibility because of the giggle factor. The more wacked out contactees and nut-balls who yell “ET is HERE!” the more no one with anything to lose is likely to take up the cause. Sad really.

Will

]]> By: JB Cole http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96491 JB Cole Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:46:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96491 looked to me like someone took microscope footage of diatoms and blended it with real footage. I swear I see simple organisms with flagella. bah! looked to me like someone took microscope footage of diatoms and blended it with real footage. I swear I see simple organisms with flagella.

bah!

]]> By: cheese http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96462 cheese Tue, 21 Feb 2006 04:13:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96462 Yea, I stopped watching about half-way when I realized I was watching the same clip over and over... Plus what was the significance of showing the Russian "space command" status board pertaining to the tracking information of the "Kvant" objects? Aren't Kvant and Kvant-2 the remains of the rockets used to place certain parts of Mir into orbit? The film footage was kind of neat to watch but I'm not so sure I just witnessed seeing UFO's based on this "evidence" Yea, I stopped watching about half-way when I realized I was watching the same clip over and over… Plus what was the significance of showing the Russian “space command” status board pertaining to the tracking information of the “Kvant” objects? Aren’t Kvant and Kvant-2 the remains of the rockets used to place certain parts of Mir into orbit? The film footage was kind of neat to watch but I’m not so sure I just witnessed seeing UFO’s based on this “evidence”

]]> By: bouche http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96448 bouche Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:21:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96448 I didn't really get anything out of this. There was no information to go along with most of the shoddy footage. I love when interesting vids go around, but this one just doesn't cut it. Did the poster actually watch this? What am I missing here? I didn’t really get anything out of this. There was no information to go along with most of the shoddy footage. I love when interesting vids go around, but this one just doesn’t cut it. Did the poster actually watch this? What am I missing here?

]]> By: Babaganoosh http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96432 Babaganoosh Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:31:57 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96432 Wow, it's just like paint drying. Title of the post should be "Guess what? There is a lot of dust and debris floating around the earth." If someone is able to find that it was really something more interesting than that, great, but that video wasn't terribly compelling. Wow, it’s just like paint drying. Title of the post should be “Guess what? There is a lot of dust and debris floating around the earth.” If someone is able to find that it was really something more interesting than that, great, but that video wasn’t terribly compelling.

]]> By: Dmitry http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96419 Dmitry Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:33:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96419 Those are debries, when the zoom is longer they come way out of focus indicating that they are the small objects very close to the camera. Those are debries, when the zoom is longer they come way out of focus indicating that they are the small objects very close to the camera.

]]> By: Pat http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96410 Pat Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:46:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96410 I was wearing my colander hat so I didn't notice anything. I find the colander so much better then tin foil, the holes let your head breathe yet gives surprising protection. I was wearing my colander hat so I didn’t notice anything. I find the colander so much better then tin foil, the holes let your head breathe yet gives surprising protection.

]]> By: Richard http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96406 Richard Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:20:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96406 I think the UFO's are run by the NSA as part of their domestic spy network. I think the UFO’s are run by the NSA as part of their domestic spy network.

]]> By: site admin http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96404 site admin Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:12:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96404 I couldn't watch the whole thing wither..but there were some interesting blips here and there. I couldn’t watch the whole thing wither..but there were some interesting blips here and there.

]]> By: Milo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96401 Milo Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:52:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96401 Chunks of ice floating in space with the light hitting them at different angles as they rotated etc. Creepy music and supers to suggest what you should think. At least "Chariots of the Gods" was somewhat entertaining. Chunks of ice floating in space with the light hitting them at different angles as they rotated etc. Creepy music and supers to suggest what you should think. At least “Chariots of the Gods” was somewhat entertaining.

]]> By: Andy http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/02/20/video-of-the-day-flying-saucers/comment-page-1/#comment-96384 Andy Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:14:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4317#comment-96384 I could only watch it for 20 mins. YAWN, no UFO's in the first 20 min anyway. I could only watch it for 20 mins. YAWN, no UFO’s in the first 20 min anyway.

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