Comments on: $15 Million for a chip! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/09/15-million-for-a-chip/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:25:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark T. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/09/15-million-for-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-122271 Mark T. Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:12:57 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4939#comment-122271 So much hate for Bush. I am sorry I said anything. No one seems to want to have a civil discussion of current events anymore without it coming down to Bush bashing. Later. So much hate for Bush. I am sorry I said anything. No one seems to want to have a civil discussion of current events anymore without it coming down to Bush bashing.

Later.

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/09/15-million-for-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-122264 Mr. Fusion Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:01:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4939#comment-122264 Yet, the government has done little to stop or get back stolen hard drives in Afghanistan. These Hds contain very sensitive information. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-disks10apr10,0,7789909.story?page=1&coll=la-home-headlines Yet, the government has done little to stop or get back stolen hard drives in Afghanistan. These Hds contain very sensitive information.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-disks10apr10,0,7789909.story?page=1&coll=la-home-headlines

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/09/15-million-for-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-122249 Mr. Fusion Tue, 11 Apr 2006 03:12:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4939#comment-122249 Mark It is Bush's Administration going after Boeing. Bush has declared it is OK for him to leak Classified information when he can use it against his political enemies. That is the connection, in case you missed it. david hit it right on. Mark

It is Bush’s Administration going after Boeing. Bush has declared it is OK for him to leak Classified information when he can use it against his political enemies.

That is the connection, in case you missed it. david hit it right on.

]]> By: Mark T. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/09/15-million-for-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-122170 Mark T. Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:29:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4939#comment-122170 David, How did a discussion of leaked technology jump to "Bush is a liar"? Your political bias is showing. Give it a rest and keep it on topic. David,

How did a discussion of leaked technology jump to “Bush is a liar”? Your political bias is showing. Give it a rest and keep it on topic.

]]> By: david http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/09/15-million-for-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-121867 david Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:47:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4939#comment-121867 "And Israel is our ally! Imagine what lengths our enemies will go to in order to get their hands on our military technology." Mark T., Israel has nukes thanks to The United States of Israel. Our "enemies" are going to get nukes too. Iran, one of Bush's axis of evil, will get them-- no doubt-- from one that views *Bush* as the enemy: The whole World, except for Israel and The U.S. (and America is fortunately starting to see President George W. Lies for what he really is: a liar for Truth). Truth stands alone. “And Israel is our ally! Imagine what lengths our enemies will go to in order to get their hands on our military technology.”

Mark T., Israel has nukes thanks to The United States of Israel. Our “enemies” are going to get nukes too. Iran, one of Bush’s axis of evil, will get them– no doubt– from one that views *Bush* as the enemy: The whole World, except for Israel and The U.S. (and America is fortunately starting to see President George W. Lies for what he really is: a liar for Truth).

Truth stands alone.

]]> By: Mark T. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/09/15-million-for-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-121567 Mark T. Mon, 10 Apr 2006 02:35:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4939#comment-121567 Technology cannot be contained. It will always leak out. The only way to prevent it from leaking out is to never release it to the public and have it completely classified inside the secret labs of black projects. Of course, this makes your technology useless in real world terms. It may be unfortunate, but I think Boeing's use of military chips in a commercial product is an understandable lack of foresight. Boeing didn't think anyone would buy a $60 million jet just to disable it and remove one chip. I am not condoning Boeing's actions. I just think that these things happen and Boeing is being punished (albeit, a paltry sum considering they sold 94 jets at $60 mil each, i.e. $5.6 billion in sales). Conversely, the use of these chips would likely make Boeing jets safer than before. If this one chip prevents one airliner crash, it's sale is in some way justified. I don't like "the end justifies the means" line that is so often overused. However, this military hardware is likely already in the hands of our enemies. The Maverick missile is a high volume missile and it is used and sold to allies around the world. I feel I can predict that one of these countries has already sold a Maverick to either Russia and/or China. As evidence of this type of behavior, you need only look at how the Israelis have sold U.S. Patriot missile technology to the Chinese. This is the same Patriot missile we gave to Israel to protect them from Saddam's Scuds. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FL21Ak01.html And Israel is our ally! Imagine what lengths our enemies will go to in order to get their hands on our military technology. Technology cannot be contained. It will always leak out. The only way to prevent it from leaking out is to never release it to the public and have it completely classified inside the secret labs of black projects. Of course, this makes your technology useless in real world terms.

It may be unfortunate, but I think Boeing’s use of military chips in a commercial product is an understandable lack of foresight. Boeing didn’t think anyone would buy a $60 million jet just to disable it and remove one chip.

I am not condoning Boeing’s actions. I just think that these things happen and Boeing is being punished (albeit, a paltry sum considering they sold 94 jets at $60 mil each, i.e. $5.6 billion in sales).

Conversely, the use of these chips would likely make Boeing jets safer than before. If this one chip prevents one airliner crash, it’s sale is in some way justified.

I don’t like “the end justifies the means” line that is so often overused. However, this military hardware is likely already in the hands of our enemies. The Maverick missile is a high volume missile and it is used and sold to allies around the world.

I feel I can predict that one of these countries has already sold a Maverick to either Russia and/or China. As evidence of this type of behavior, you need only look at how the Israelis have sold U.S. Patriot missile technology to the Chinese. This is the same Patriot missile we gave to Israel to protect them from Saddam’s Scuds.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FL21Ak01.html

And Israel is our ally! Imagine what lengths our enemies will go to in order to get their hands on our military technology.

]]> By: James http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/09/15-million-for-a-chip/comment-page-1/#comment-121514 James Mon, 10 Apr 2006 01:04:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4939#comment-121514 'cause them other countries are to ignirint to create their own? You know, the ones like taiwan, commie china, japan, etc? This logic is what drove the us to make encryption exports illegal too. That sure kept the rest of the world from having encryption... Do we want Boeing to be successful or not? ’cause them other countries are to ignirint to create their own? You know, the ones like taiwan, commie china, japan, etc? This logic is what drove the us to make encryption exports illegal too. That sure kept the rest of the world from having encryption…

Do we want Boeing to be successful or not?

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