Comments on: Wal-Mart Files Suit Over Satire http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:50:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-125283 Mr. Fusion Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:58:42 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-125283 15, Having just browsed the site, I disagree. Most of the site seemed to be taken up with the lawsuit and related activities. I agree that there was very little about his frustrations with Wal-Mart. I also believe that some of his graphics were over the top, but I still respect his right to offend and be offensive. 15, Having just browsed the site, I disagree. Most of the site seemed to be taken up with the lawsuit and related activities. I agree that there was very little about his frustrations with Wal-Mart. I also believe that some of his graphics were over the top, but I still respect his right to offend and be offensive.

]]> By: joshua http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-125105 joshua Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:04:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-125105 #15....cool....you seem to be the only one here (besides wal-mart) that has figured that out. I have given up trying to point out in here that wal-mart is no different than any other business of it's type....except that it's not going bankrupt. I have come to realize that some in here are just elitest. If your in the middle, middle class or below income wise, Wal-Mart is a godsend. I know, because I moved from an area that had wal-mart super stores to an area that regulated them out and won't allow them in. The difference is mostly in food prices. Food here in the bay area, just 2 hours drive from where most of it is produced is4 times the cost of anywhere else in this country. In Arizona, where a great deal of the food is imported from California, and there are wal-mart super stores, the food is cheap. The sad part is, most of you wal-mart is evil posters probably shop there, or your wives do. The holocaust is still fresh, and there are still many alive that survived it, thats why it's not cool to be to glib about it. The families of the gypsy, Jewish, and homosexual victims still live with those memories....so they are just a bit touchy about it. #7....6 million non-military lives lost in the camps alone make it one hellava tragedy.....the only thing even close to comparable in the last 200 years is probably Cambodia. So please, don't insult me or yourself with your trivializing word games. #15….cool….you seem to be the only one here (besides wal-mart) that has figured that out.

I have given up trying to point out in here that wal-mart is no different than any other business of it’s type….except that it’s not going bankrupt.
I have come to realize that some in here are just elitest. If your in the middle, middle class or below income wise, Wal-Mart is a godsend. I know, because I moved from an area that had wal-mart super stores to an area that regulated them out and won’t allow them in. The difference is mostly in food prices. Food here in the bay area, just 2 hours drive from where most of it is produced is4 times the cost of anywhere else in this country. In Arizona, where a great deal of the food is imported from California, and there are wal-mart super stores, the food is cheap. The sad part is, most of you wal-mart is evil posters probably shop there, or your wives do.

The holocaust is still fresh, and there are still many alive that survived it, thats why it’s not cool to be to glib about it. The families of the gypsy, Jewish, and homosexual victims still live with those memories….so they are just a bit touchy about it.

#7….6 million non-military lives lost in the camps alone make it one hellava tragedy…..the only thing even close to comparable in the last 200 years is probably Cambodia. So please, don’t insult me or yourself with your trivializing word games.

]]> By: Wes http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124878 Wes Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:43:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124878 Most of his site is about how to buy products from him, rather then a strong logical argument about his frustration at the way Walmart does business. Makes me think he is just in it to sell t-shirts. Most of his site is about how to buy products from him, rather then a strong logical argument about his frustration at the way Walmart does business.

Makes me think he is just in it to sell t-shirts.

]]> By: Professor Tom http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124830 Professor Tom Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:54:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124830 Hi John. I hope your eyes pass over this. I just want to say that I subscribed to PC Mag somewhere back around 99-2002 and sorely miss it. In fact, I have thought about subscribing again just to get your column... I stole your formatting idea (random bold text) and have been using it on my Xanga blog, <a href="http://www.xanga.com/ProfessorTom" rel="nofollow">Professor Tom</a>. This Wal*mart thing is really getting to me. I might have to finally write about it soon. peace out Professor Tom An Inspired Reader Hi John.

I hope your eyes pass over this. I just want to say that I subscribed to PC Mag somewhere back around 99-2002 and sorely miss it. In fact, I have thought about subscribing again just to get your column…

I stole your formatting idea (random bold text) and have been using it on my Xanga blog, Professor Tom.

This Wal*mart thing is really getting to me. I might have to finally write about it soon.

peace out
Professor Tom
An Inspired Reader

]]> By: Rick http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124828 Rick Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:51:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124828 6. above said it best...no one worries that saying something is a "nuclear bomb" of a whatsit...or that something was a massacre...massacres and atomic weapons are terrible...sure...and usually what gets called such hyperbole is nothing even close to those kinds of horrors...but, it isn't speaking about those things...it is comparing to create a statement...nothing more...and, when did the Nazi/Jew horrors corner the market on the term holocaust? Yeah, it is certainly a big one...and a recent one...but, there was a time when it was just the next one. 6. above said it best…no one worries that saying something is a “nuclear bomb” of a whatsit…or that something was a massacre…massacres and atomic weapons are terrible…sure…and usually what gets called such hyperbole is nothing even close to those kinds of horrors…but, it isn’t speaking about those things…it is comparing to create a statement…nothing more…and, when did the Nazi/Jew horrors corner the market on the term holocaust? Yeah, it is certainly a big one…and a recent one…but, there was a time when it was just the next one.

]]> By: Brady J. Frey http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124808 Brady J. Frey Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:20:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124808 He's not misusing the logo -- sure it's a satirical representation, but the font on each logo is not the same. Walocaust uses Arial (that horrid font microsoft poorly designed to step away from paying a license fee for helvetica), and Wal-Mart was always a customized version of typical sans-serifs. About the only arguement is the 'wal' and 'star', dropping the star could avoid the limitations, unless, and probably, the government was dumb enough to allow 'wal' to be copyrighted in a name (though walgreens is in the clear and waldrug). So the look and feel is a mimick, but not a copyrighted rip off. Regardless, the holocaust reference is a point of symbolism by taking a horrid event well known throughout generations and slapping it on a company that envisions family values under questionable morals... and how is that different than any other social rip? Pointless, and I hope it tarnishes Wal-Mart a step further. He’s not misusing the logo — sure it’s a satirical representation, but the font on each logo is not the same. Walocaust uses Arial (that horrid font microsoft poorly designed to step away from paying a license fee for helvetica), and Wal-Mart was always a customized version of typical sans-serifs. About the only arguement is the ‘wal’ and ‘star’, dropping the star could avoid the limitations, unless, and probably, the government was dumb enough to allow ‘wal’ to be copyrighted in a name (though walgreens is in the clear and waldrug). So the look and feel is a mimick, but not a copyrighted rip off.

Regardless, the holocaust reference is a point of symbolism by taking a horrid event well known throughout generations and slapping it on a company that envisions family values under questionable morals… and how is that different than any other social rip?

Pointless, and I hope it tarnishes Wal-Mart a step further.

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124744 Mr. Fusion Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:26:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124744 7 <i>Is the tragedy of the Jews greater than, say, the industrial lives and slaughter of billions of cage-raised chickens every year? </i> yes, the very idea of comparing human lives to poultry is beyond words... <i>Does it eclipse the thousands of innocent civilians killed by American troops in Iraq in the last few years? /i> many many times over </i><i>Is it more or less than the several thousand killed in the world trade centers collapse? </i> many many many times over, about 2,000 times as many <i>How does it compare to an honor student killed in an automobile accident? </i> two different subjects, but still yes <i>And does time cheapen tragedy? </i> no, it may lessen our personal pain or memories, but the tragedy will be, forever, infamous. 7
Is the tragedy of the Jews greater than, say, the industrial lives and slaughter of billions of cage-raised chickens every year?

yes, the very idea of comparing human lives to poultry is beyond words…

Does it eclipse the thousands of innocent civilians killed by American troops in Iraq in the last few years? /i>

many many times over

Is it more or less than the several thousand killed in the world trade centers collapse?

many many many times over, about 2,000 times as many

How does it compare to an honor student killed in an automobile accident?

two different subjects, but still yes

And does time cheapen tragedy?

no, it may lessen our personal pain or memories, but the tragedy will be, forever, infamous.

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124740 Mr. Fusion Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:17:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124740 <i>Since when is Wal-Mart against “attempting to profit from repulsive wares”? </i> Maybe that could be Smith's defense. <i>...comparing Wal-Mart to the Holocaust cheapens the tragedy experienced by the Jews during World War II. </i> True, and he should stop for this reason, if for no other. Since when is Wal-Mart against “attempting to profit from repulsive wares”?

Maybe that could be Smith’s defense.

…comparing Wal-Mart to the Holocaust cheapens the tragedy experienced by the Jews during World War II.

True, and he should stop for this reason, if for no other.

]]> By: Mike Voice http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124729 Mike Voice Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:57:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124729 <i>Do you like the idea of them forming a bank?</i> If they have to abide by all the rules and regulations other banks do, then I have no problem with it. Do you like the idea of them forming a bank?

If they have to abide by all the rules and regulations other banks do, then I have no problem with it.

]]> By: Mike Voice http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124726 Mike Voice Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:54:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124726 <i>Is the tragedy of the Jews greater than, say, the industrial lives and slaughter of billions of cage-raised chickens every year?</i> Without a doubt. Is the tragedy of the Jews greater than, say, the industrial lives and slaughter of billions of cage-raised chickens every year?

Without a doubt.

]]> By: blastum http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124702 blastum Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:21:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124702 "cheapens the tragedy experienced by the Jews during World War II." Should we play "My tragedy is worse than yours?" Is the tragedy of the Jews greater than, say, the industrial lives and slaughter of billions of cage-raised chickens every year? Does it eclipse the thousands of innocent civilians killed by American troops in Iraq in the last few years? Is it more or less than the several thousand killed in the world trade centers collapse? How does it compare to an honor student killed in an automobile accident? And does time cheapen tragedy? We have slavery, the Roman conquest of the western world, the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. Tragedy is what it is. It stands by itself whether it is contemporary or historical, whether people laugh or even remember it. People who complain about their tragedy being worse merely show their selfish interests when they say such things. “cheapens the tragedy experienced by the Jews during World War II.” Should we play “My tragedy is worse than yours?” Is the tragedy of the Jews greater than, say, the industrial lives and slaughter of billions of cage-raised chickens every year? Does it eclipse the thousands of innocent civilians killed by American troops in Iraq in the last few years? Is it more or less than the several thousand killed in the world trade centers collapse? How does it compare to an honor student killed in an automobile accident? And does time cheapen tragedy? We have slavery, the Roman conquest of the western world, the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.

Tragedy is what it is. It stands by itself whether it is contemporary or historical, whether people laugh or even remember it. People who complain about their tragedy being worse merely show their selfish interests when they say such things.

]]> By: SN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124696 SN Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:17:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124696 <em>“comparing Wal-Mart to the Holocaust cheapens the tragedy experienced by the Jews during World War II.”</em> WWII was not the first holocaust nor will it be the last. And satire without hyperbole is impossible. “comparing Wal-Mart to the Holocaust cheapens the tragedy experienced by the Jews during World War II.”

WWII was not the first holocaust nor will it be the last. And satire without hyperbole is impossible.

]]> By: moss http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124691 moss Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:11:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124691 To continue the OT comment: Don't underestimate the number of Congressmen owned by WalMart. They'll go ahead with banking if and when the regulatory requirements imposed on all other banks are waived. At least enough to give WM some advantage. If you followed the whole "secure ports" brouhaha through Congress to it's predictable end, you witnessed the complete gutting of any realistic security requirements -- because WalMart said it would affect their pricing. To continue the OT comment:

Don’t underestimate the number of Congressmen owned by WalMart. They’ll go ahead with banking if and when the regulatory requirements imposed on all other banks are waived. At least enough to give WM some advantage.

If you followed the whole “secure ports” brouhaha through Congress to it’s predictable end, you witnessed the complete gutting of any realistic security requirements — because WalMart said it would affect their pricing.

]]> By: RTaylor http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124692 RTaylor Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:11:55 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124692 Maybe a ticket to Birkenau will demonstrate how tasteless it is. Don't go near these camps without stopping. It's an object lesson in humanity. Maybe a ticket to Birkenau will demonstrate how tasteless it is. Don’t go near these camps without stopping. It’s an object lesson in humanity.

]]> By: Matt Hecht http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/04/13/wal-mart-files-suit-over-satire/comment-page-1/#comment-124685 Matt Hecht Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:07:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=4991#comment-124685 As tasteless as the shirt may seem, it's somewhat relevant when you consider what Wal Mart has done to Mom & Pop stores across the United States. As tasteless as the shirt may seem, it’s somewhat relevant when you consider what Wal Mart has done to Mom & Pop stores across the United States.

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