Comments on: The Microsoft Search Tarpit http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:26:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: john molinelli http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-143523 john molinelli Tue, 09 May 2006 22:29:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-143523 Years ago I used Yahoo and similar for searches. Didn't like it. Now use Google as first choice. Also like their Image search feature. Sometimes I use their autmated translation program , but it helps if you have some knowledge of the language chosen, vis: Latiin, French, German, etc. Never use MSN. Too bad Bill Gates quit DOS programming in the early 80's. He learned a lot using it. jj Years ago I used Yahoo and similar for searches. Didn’t like it. Now use Google as first choice. Also like their Image search feature.
Sometimes I use their autmated translation program , but it helps if you have some knowledge of the language chosen, vis: Latiin, French, German, etc. Never use MSN.

Too bad Bill Gates quit DOS programming in the early 80′s. He learned a lot using it.

jj

]]> By: Mark http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142748 Mark Mon, 08 May 2006 21:51:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142748 I'm not the first to remakr on this (in fact, it was probably John), but Microsoft has become IBM. They think and move like a gigantic old-time industrial company, rather than as a forward-thinking innovator. Not to completely discount the R&D and innovation they do, which is admirable, but they have never been a company that comes up with next-generation solutions. They can go from 1 to 100 really fast, but they can't seem to go from zero to 1. So whatever they come out with in search will likely be too little, too late. And I agree with Greg: you need Google to find anything on microsoft.com. I’m not the first to remakr on this (in fact, it was probably John), but Microsoft has become IBM. They think and move like a gigantic old-time industrial company, rather than as a forward-thinking innovator. Not to completely discount the R&D and innovation they do, which is admirable, but they have never been a company that comes up with next-generation solutions. They can go from 1 to 100 really fast, but they can’t seem to go from zero to 1. So whatever they come out with in search will likely be too little, too late. And I agree with Greg: you need Google to find anything on microsoft.com.

]]> By: david http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142486 david Mon, 08 May 2006 14:07:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142486 In every industry there is the 800lb gorilla. Google is the alpha search engine, everybody else, the betas. This is not bad. Money can still be made by finding a niche market and excelling in it. MSN has to find that niche. It can try to overthrow Google but I don't think they have the talent to do so, although they certaintly have the cash. What niche? Hmmm...what about an image search. A search that begins not with search words in a field but with an image. One can upload an image, say a picture of John, and MSN can bring back results of other pictures that resemble that person with the top hits actually being him. In every industry there is the 800lb gorilla. Google is the alpha search engine, everybody else, the betas. This is not bad. Money can still be made by finding a niche market and excelling in it. MSN has to find that niche. It can try to overthrow Google but I don’t think they have the talent to do so, although they certaintly have the cash. What niche? Hmmm…what about an image search. A search that begins not with search words in a field but with an image. One can upload an image, say a picture of John, and MSN can bring back results of other pictures that resemble that person with the top hits actually being him.

]]> By: GregAllen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142475 GregAllen Mon, 08 May 2006 13:42:57 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142475 Has anyone else here noticed that the internal search engine at microsoft.com is absolutley useless? It's a very bad sign for Microsoft. It's far more effective to search microsoft.com with Google. Has anyone else here noticed that the internal search engine at microsoft.com is absolutley useless? It’s a very bad sign for Microsoft.

It’s far more effective to search microsoft.com with Google.

]]> By: Frank http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142447 Frank Mon, 08 May 2006 12:29:15 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142447 Every time I tried to use MSN to search all I got back were ads without any useful information. I gave up on them a long time ago. Every time I tried to use MSN to search all I got back were ads without any useful information. I gave up on them a long time ago.

]]> By: mbg http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142425 mbg Mon, 08 May 2006 11:18:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142425 I'm not totally convinced about Microsoft being able to do search properly, but it does seem that they are working (at least in R&D) on "next generation search", and maybe they are just sitting this round out. Whether they fail at this or succeed, I wouldn't be surprised, either way. I’m not totally convinced about Microsoft being able to do search properly, but it does seem that they are working (at least in R&D) on “next generation search”, and maybe they are just sitting this round out.

Whether they fail at this or succeed, I wouldn’t be surprised, either way.

]]> By: Milo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142216 Milo Mon, 08 May 2006 02:31:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142216 As I've mentioned before some of these searches are IE directing people to MSN whereupon they promptly go to Google so they can get relevant results. It's got to be at least some of these 'searches'. Most of them? Last time I used IE you couldn't make it use Google to search, for instance, if you typed an address in wrong. So in other words even this pathetic number is inflated! As I’ve mentioned before some of these searches are IE directing people to MSN whereupon they promptly go to Google so they can get relevant results. It’s got to be at least some of these ‘searches’. Most of them? Last time I used IE you couldn’t make it use Google to search, for instance, if you typed an address in wrong. So in other words even this pathetic number is inflated!

]]> By: Aaron http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142164 Aaron Mon, 08 May 2006 00:32:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142164 I think one day Apple will overtake Macintosh! I think one day Apple will overtake Macintosh!

]]> By: Joe http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142157 Joe Mon, 08 May 2006 00:28:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142157 Minor details. :-) Minor details. :-)

]]> By: site admin http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-142122 site admin Sun, 07 May 2006 23:56:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-142122 Microsoft IS MSN. Microsoft IS MSN.

]]> By: A.H http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/05/07/the-microsoft-search-tarpit/comment-page-1/#comment-141871 A.H Sun, 07 May 2006 20:30:42 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5277#comment-141871 Microsoft is very capable of overcoming MSN & AOL, Yahoo! & Google is another story. A.H Microsoft is very capable of overcoming MSN & AOL, Yahoo! & Google is another story.

A.H

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