Comments on: Gonzalez Want US ISP’s to Record Your Web Usage — Or Else! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tod White http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163988 Tod White Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:45:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163988 Who's gonna be the first to file War Crimes charges on the current admin.? Who’s gonna be the first to file War Crimes charges on the current admin.?

]]> By: Mr. H. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163677 Mr. H. Fusion Sun, 04 Jun 2006 01:23:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163677 All those Republican Congressmen must be pooping in their pants over this. It was bad enough when the Republican Government started tapping <i>only</i> terrorists phones, then <i>only</i> who called what number. Now, the Republican Government is asking to know where everyone went on-line. This won't effect only child porn perverts, but all those upstanding middle class married men viewing straight porn (where all the models ARE 18), those going to off shore gambling sites, those neo-cons that read the Washington Post or NY Times, and those who frequent chat rooms. This would effect almost every voting adult. The Democrats don't need a platform with these buffoons screwing up everything. All those Republican Congressmen must be pooping in their pants over this. It was bad enough when the Republican Government started tapping only terrorists phones, then only who called what number. Now, the Republican Government is asking to know where everyone went on-line. This won’t effect only child porn perverts, but all those upstanding middle class married men viewing straight porn (where all the models ARE 18), those going to off shore gambling sites, those neo-cons that read the Washington Post or NY Times, and those who frequent chat rooms. This would effect almost every voting adult.

The Democrats don’t need a platform with these buffoons screwing up everything.

]]> By: Mike Voice http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163561 Mike Voice Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:45:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163561 #29 <i>It’s all about retention time of traffic logs</i> And I like the contrast between <i>that</i>, and Corporate America's post-Enron embrace of deleting any files & emails after 90-days... From the article: <i>In its current proposal, the department appears to be trying to determine whether Internet companies will voluntarily agree to keep certain information or if it will need to seek legislation to require them to do so</i> How much will it cost these companies to increase storage capacity from a month's worth to 2-years worth?? Since any cost will be passed on to us customers, how much would such an "unfunded mandate" cost us??? #29 It’s all about retention time of traffic logs

And I like the contrast between that, and Corporate America’s post-Enron embrace of deleting any files & emails after 90-days…

From the article: In its current proposal, the department appears to be trying to determine whether Internet companies will voluntarily agree to keep certain information or if it will need to seek legislation to require them to do so

How much will it cost these companies to increase storage capacity from a month’s worth to 2-years worth??

Since any cost will be passed on to us customers, how much would such an “unfunded mandate” cost us???

]]> By: KBallweg http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163529 KBallweg Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:59:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163529 It's all about retention time of traffic logs. And I will bet that the recording and movie industries are as much in play here as any anti-terror concerns. Nice little revenue stream sitting there with USNet for example. Why sell when you can sue? Let's hope the ISPs will give the same response Qwest did on the phone logging. It’s all about retention time of traffic logs. And I will bet that the recording and movie industries are as much in play here as any anti-terror concerns. Nice little revenue stream sitting there with USNet for example. Why sell when you can sue?

Let’s hope the ISPs will give the same response Qwest did on the phone logging.

]]> By: doug http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163439 doug Sat, 03 Jun 2006 13:39:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163439 recall that they said that ISP's not retaining these records "hampered" the prosecution of child pornography cases. not PREVENTED them. again, lazy, lazy cops would rather violate everyone's privacy than do the hard work of law enforcement. recall that they said that ISP’s not retaining these records “hampered” the prosecution of child pornography cases. not PREVENTED them.

again, lazy, lazy cops would rather violate everyone’s privacy than do the hard work of law enforcement.

]]> By: John Wofford http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163284 John Wofford Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:19:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163284 <i>The meeting included representatives from America Online, Microsoft, Google, Verizon and Comcast.</i> With that list of corporations you really have to wonder who proposed what, to who, and who did it first. And never mind who's on second. The meeting included representatives from America Online, Microsoft, Google, Verizon and Comcast.
With that list of corporations you really have to wonder who proposed what, to who, and who did it first. And never mind who’s on second.

]]> By: George http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163186 George Sat, 03 Jun 2006 06:10:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163186 As I read the story the argument was about how long they would keep the records not whether they would keep them. As I read the story the argument was about how long they would keep the records not whether they would keep them.

]]> By: Mark T. http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163149 Mark T. Sat, 03 Jun 2006 04:49:42 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163149 Can someone explain to me why end users cannot connect to the internet directly without the use of an ISP? It seems that the ISPs are part of the problem. Is there no way to get around them and become your own ISP? Thanks to anyone that can enlighten me. Can someone explain to me why end users cannot connect to the internet directly without the use of an ISP? It seems that the ISPs are part of the problem. Is there no way to get around them and become your own ISP?

Thanks to anyone that can enlighten me.

]]> By: KB http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163114 KB Sat, 03 Jun 2006 03:13:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163114 "...the department appears to be trying to determine whether Internet companies will voluntarily agree to keep certain information or if it will need to seek legislation to require them to do so."--[FromTheArticle] I'm trying to think of just the right words to ridicule this.... “…the department appears to be trying to determine whether Internet companies will voluntarily agree to keep certain information or if it will need to seek legislation to require them to do so.”–[FromTheArticle]

I’m trying to think of just the right words to ridicule this….

]]> By: Sirgallihad http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163074 Sirgallihad Sat, 03 Jun 2006 01:23:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163074 See, fact is, anyone with strange browsing habits (ie still on slashdot at 4 in the morning) is clearly a TERRORIST. Also, anyone who visits sites including, but not limited to communism, hacking, etc are also TERRORISTS. That's why we should watch for these people, Come on, the us governemnt is going to hell in a handbasket See, fact is, anyone with strange browsing habits (ie still on slashdot at 4 in the morning) is clearly a TERRORIST. Also, anyone who visits sites including, but not limited to communism, hacking, etc are also TERRORISTS. That’s why we should watch for these people, Come on, the us governemnt is going to hell in a handbasket

]]> By: Scott Schuckert http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-2/#comment-163053 Scott Schuckert Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:48:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163053 I am far, far more afraid of the US government at this point than I am of terrorists. I am far, far more afraid of the US government at this point than I am of terrorists.

]]> By: Tod White http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-163045 Tod White Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:29:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163045 Have any of these people read the constitution? Amendments? Anything? Comment by plankton — 6/2/2006 You forget, this is the government that (reportedly) said, "it's just a god-damned peice of paper". That said "I'm the president, I don't HAVE to follow the law, I make the laws." That has repeatedly added onto signed bills (supposedly laws) anything they wanted to add AFTER any sort of over-sight or discussion was done.... And you're surprised by this?!? Have any of these people read the constitution? Amendments? Anything?

Comment by plankton — 6/2/2006

You forget, this is the government that (reportedly) said, “it’s just a god-damned peice of paper”.
That said “I’m the president, I don’t HAVE to follow the law, I make the laws.”
That has repeatedly added onto signed bills (supposedly laws) anything they wanted to add AFTER any sort of over-sight or discussion was done….

And you’re surprised by this?!?

]]> By: Tod White http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-163043 Tod White Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:23:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163043 Did ANY of the ISP's have the guts to tell him to go to hell? Or, (as is likely) did they all knuckle under? Did ANY of the ISP’s have the guts to tell him to go to hell?

Or, (as is likely) did they all knuckle under?

]]> By: AB CD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-163034 AB CD Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:06:41 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-163034 I think this is already allowed for the police to subpoena such records. I think this is already allowed for the police to subpoena such records.

]]> By: John C Dvorak http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/06/02/gonzalez-want-us-isps-to-record-your-web-usage-or-else/comment-page-1/#comment-162914 John C Dvorak Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:07:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=5595#comment-162914 Geez, Dave don't give it away!!! Geez, Dave don’t give it away!!!

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