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		<title>By: sun bingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>sun bingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody knows that Bush is too dumb to make a distinction between BBQ and G8. His behaviour is ridiculous anyway - but so is Mrs Merkel’s. She’s the one coquetishly sexualizing politics to supress substantial discussions. And Bush is only the idiot who thaught this was friendship. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody knows that Bush is too dumb to make a distinction between BBQ and G8. His behaviour is ridiculous anyway &#8211; but so is Mrs Merkel’s. She’s the one coquetishly sexualizing politics to supress substantial discussions. And Bush is only the idiot who thaught this was friendship.</p>
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		<title>By: Yetused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yetused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Americans are crazy! Sexual harassment? WTF?! He touched her shoulder. Not her breast or anything! Can you get arrested for touching a woman&#039;s shoulder or hand in America? Your country is f*cked up.

Sincerely, a German girl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Americans are crazy! Sexual harassment? WTF?! He touched her shoulder. Not her breast or anything! Can you get arrested for touching a woman&#8217;s shoulder or hand in America? Your country is f*cked up.</p>
<p>Sincerely, a German girl</p>
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		<title>By: And yet another amused German</title>
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		<dc:creator>And yet another amused German</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand what&#039;s all this discussion is about... That was just a negligible gesture and I don&#039;t think, Ms. Merkel felt sexual harassed by this little action. Personally I don&#039;t like George W. Bush but this act of him is really overrated. Aren&#039;t there no other - real important things - to discuss these times? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand what&#8217;s all this discussion is about&#8230; That was just a negligible gesture and I don&#8217;t think, Ms. Merkel felt sexual harassed by this little action. Personally I don&#8217;t like George W. Bush but this act of him is really overrated. Aren&#8217;t there no other &#8211; real important things &#8211; to discuss these times?</p>
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		<title>By: Hypnotoad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hypnotoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet another German:
You might know that Bush is not as popular in Germany as he is those north american states believing in creationism and all that crap, but accusing him of sexual harassment for this insignificant gesture once again makes me laugh about the Victorian way of life that is commonly practiced in the US. I had to laugh almost as hard as that one day when proud American republican voters, utterly ashamed of what Clinton had previously done, were asking me what people in Germany were thinking about the whole issue. They were expecting me to say that we were really deeply ashamed of him as well and that he undermined his authority that way, but the truth was: most people thought of Clinton as a cool guy and were disapproving of the way the American nation dealt with him, in the old-fashioned, prude way.
So please leave us alone with all that sexual harassment mumbo-jumbo, it&#039;s just ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet another German:<br />
You might know that Bush is not as popular in Germany as he is those north american states believing in creationism and all that crap, but accusing him of sexual harassment for this insignificant gesture once again makes me laugh about the Victorian way of life that is commonly practiced in the US. I had to laugh almost as hard as that one day when proud American republican voters, utterly ashamed of what Clinton had previously done, were asking me what people in Germany were thinking about the whole issue. They were expecting me to say that we were really deeply ashamed of him as well and that he undermined his authority that way, but the truth was: most people thought of Clinton as a cool guy and were disapproving of the way the American nation dealt with him, in the old-fashioned, prude way.<br />
So please leave us alone with all that sexual harassment mumbo-jumbo, it&#8217;s just ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. N.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. N.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another German here.
If someone unexpectly touches you from behind, you can get a slight shock. I&#039;ve had that many times with the typical taps on the back, done by both men and women, and while I do hate it, it&#039;s no big deal.
The uproar over there tells a lot more about the US than about Bush. Abundance of sexual harrassment charges as well as the tendency to sue for large sums.

And don&#039;t get me started on the openly misandrist NOW or US style feminism. We&#039;re talking about a country where basically any woman can destroy a man&#039;s life by false domestic violence or rape accusations as well as restraining orders that are generally issued no matter how frivolous they are (remember the recent incident with David Letterman? How many men can afford the lawyers he&#039;s got?). All that with usually no charges whatsoever for false testimony as well as no help for real victims that either don&#039;t know how to play the system or especially have the wrong gender.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another German here.<br />
If someone unexpectly touches you from behind, you can get a slight shock. I&#8217;ve had that many times with the typical taps on the back, done by both men and women, and while I do hate it, it&#8217;s no big deal.<br />
The uproar over there tells a lot more about the US than about Bush. Abundance of sexual harrassment charges as well as the tendency to sue for large sums.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t get me started on the openly misandrist NOW or US style feminism. We&#8217;re talking about a country where basically any woman can destroy a man&#8217;s life by false domestic violence or rape accusations as well as restraining orders that are generally issued no matter how frivolous they are (remember the recent incident with David Letterman? How many men can afford the lawyers he&#8217;s got?). All that with usually no charges whatsoever for false testimony as well as no help for real victims that either don&#8217;t know how to play the system or especially have the wrong gender.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Folks,

it needs a lot of sick fantasy to blow up Bushs behaviour to a case of sexual harassment, at least for a german european. GWB tried to be buddy with Merkel in a way that might not be appropiate at this level and in front of the world press. He obviously likes her and tried to show it. 
This happens a million times a day in the world. Between friends, collegues etc. and hardly nobody  outside the US would run to court for that. 

Probably, the public in the US is so obsessed with sexuality, because is so widely supressed in your country. Old Europe will never understand why your society thinks that showing any form of bloody violence on TV, even for kids, is ok, while one blank nipple causes an public uproar.

GWB and his right-wing religious gang have damaged the reputation of the US in world. But the reason for that is called Guantamo, Iraq, Kyoto, Oil, etc.  and not the redneck manners of your president. 
However, you can be sure that the discussion about this case will damage US reputation more than the poorly noticed incident itself.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Folks,</p>
<p>it needs a lot of sick fantasy to blow up Bushs behaviour to a case of sexual harassment, at least for a german european. GWB tried to be buddy with Merkel in a way that might not be appropiate at this level and in front of the world press. He obviously likes her and tried to show it.<br />
This happens a million times a day in the world. Between friends, collegues etc. and hardly nobody  outside the US would run to court for that. </p>
<p>Probably, the public in the US is so obsessed with sexuality, because is so widely supressed in your country. Old Europe will never understand why your society thinks that showing any form of bloody violence on TV, even for kids, is ok, while one blank nipple causes an public uproar.</p>
<p>GWB and his right-wing religious gang have damaged the reputation of the US in world. But the reason for that is called Guantamo, Iraq, Kyoto, Oil, etc.  and not the redneck manners of your president.<br />
However, you can be sure that the discussion about this case will damage US reputation more than the poorly noticed incident itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Annette Mueller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annette Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Bush is an American. I mean, that says it all. Americans are not cultivated like Europeans, they are like Big Kids. Michael Moore, or George Bush, or Brad Pitt, there is no difference. Your nation is simply juvenile. Wait another 2,000 years, maybe than you Americans get a little more civilzed. Sorry Kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Bush is an American. I mean, that says it all. Americans are not cultivated like Europeans, they are like Big Kids. Michael Moore, or George Bush, or Brad Pitt, there is no difference. Your nation is simply juvenile. Wait another 2,000 years, maybe than you Americans get a little more civilzed. Sorry Kids.</p>
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		<title>By: mmulin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmulin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one edit on my text above:
hypercriticism = hypocrisy,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one edit on my text above:<br />
hypercriticism = hypocrisy,</p>
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		<title>By: mmulin</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmulin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>such behaviour can be seen over here quite often. however, it will be a gesture between very good friends, in a man-woman context, or between man a sign of appreciation.

however, i suppose, neither fits this footage and, honestly, a public exhibition of such is just purly unprofessional..

i agree the reaction in the states are indeed middle-aged. nobody here would right away dismiss this as sexual advancement. but then again in your country even looking at a woman twice gets you to court. not to speak about all the inter-personal hypercriticism. 

if it comes to european mentality this can only be described as a guy displaying bad manners.. and maybe it can be seen as a bush&#039;ish attempt to show a cosmoplitan athmosphere. then again, as usual, i don&#039;t think he was thinking anything..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>such behaviour can be seen over here quite often. however, it will be a gesture between very good friends, in a man-woman context, or between man a sign of appreciation.</p>
<p>however, i suppose, neither fits this footage and, honestly, a public exhibition of such is just purly unprofessional..</p>
<p>i agree the reaction in the states are indeed middle-aged. nobody here would right away dismiss this as sexual advancement. but then again in your country even looking at a woman twice gets you to court. not to speak about all the inter-personal hypercriticism. </p>
<p>if it comes to european mentality this can only be described as a guy displaying bad manners.. and maybe it can be seen as a bush&#8217;ish attempt to show a cosmoplitan athmosphere. then again, as usual, i don&#8217;t think he was thinking anything..</p>
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		<title>By: martino</title>
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		<dc:creator>martino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from germany: are you kittin? this was nothing but a friendly whatever, i wont believe, that the us is so middleaged - this has nothing nothing to do with a sexual harassement ... strange for an european is the debatte about this, better take care of violence, war, poor people and other important things than such a NOTHING for our chancelor (president ist someone else named Köhler)

greetz &amp; take it eassier   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from germany: are you kittin? this was nothing but a friendly whatever, i wont believe, that the us is so middleaged &#8211; this has nothing nothing to do with a sexual harassement &#8230; strange for an european is the debatte about this, better take care of violence, war, poor people and other important things than such a NOTHING for our chancelor (president ist someone else named Köhler)</p>
<p>greetz &amp; take it eassier</p>
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		<title>By: Till</title>
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		<dc:creator>Till</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, fellow Germans. Remember these times:
http://www.dmko.info/putinparty.jpg
German chancellors seem to be good friends to all other Presidents.
Remember Chirac kissing Angie?
Greetings from Germany</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, fellow Germans. Remember these times:<br />
<a href="http://www.dmko.info/putinparty.jpg" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.dmko.info/putinparty.jpg' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.dmko.info/putinparty.jpg</a><br />
German chancellors seem to be good friends to all other Presidents.<br />
Remember Chirac kissing Angie?<br />
Greetings from Germany</p>
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		<title>By: Shred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another German posting... Would Bush have done the same to a male German chancellor? I don&#039;t think so. He also did it in public, which must have been even more embarrassing to Merkel. I think Bush should apologize, and treat Merkel with due respect from now on. And then this stupid incident should be settled once and for all.

@40 pcmasters: &quot;Our president Ms Merkel&quot; *cough* Our president actually is Mr Koehler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another German posting&#8230; Would Bush have done the same to a male German chancellor? I don&#8217;t think so. He also did it in public, which must have been even more embarrassing to Merkel. I think Bush should apologize, and treat Merkel with due respect from now on. And then this stupid incident should be settled once and for all.</p>
<p>@40 pcmasters: &#8220;Our president Ms Merkel&#8221; *cough* Our president actually is Mr Koehler.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys! just lough about it and don&#039;t debate if it was a sexual harassement or not.
I&#039;m from Germany, too. And we are more generous in things like that ;)
Have a nice day and many greetings from Germany....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys! just lough about it and don&#8217;t debate if it was a sexual harassement or not.<br />
I&#8217;m from Germany, too. And we are more generous in things like that <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Have a nice day and many greetings from Germany&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the whole story is different:

Before meeting the G8 in St.Petersburg Bush visited Merkel to support her party while elections in the German state Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Merkel was the one going for intimity with the president there, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MTUwMDkmbnI9NQ_3_3,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;caressing his arm in front of her own husband to get a kiss for welcome instead of a handshake&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MTUwMDkmbnI9NA_3_3,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;she was quite pleased to get this easy effort&lt;/a&gt;.

Merkel did this also to snub the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MTUwMDUmbnI9MTI_3,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;German peace-movement&lt;/a&gt; and to do dirt on former chancelor Gerhard Schröder&#039;s resistance against War on Iraq.

Everybody knows that Bush is too dumb to make a distinction between BBQ and G8. His behaviour is ridiculous anyway - but so is Mrs Merkel&#039;s. She&#039;s the one coquetishly sexualizing politics to supress substantial discussions. And Bush is only the idiot who thaught this was friendship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the whole story is different:</p>
<p>Before meeting the G8 in St.Petersburg Bush visited Merkel to support her party while elections in the German state Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Merkel was the one going for intimity with the president there, <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MTUwMDkmbnI9NQ_3_3,00.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">caressing his arm in front of her own husband to get a kiss for welcome instead of a handshake</a> and <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MTUwMDkmbnI9NA_3_3,00.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">she was quite pleased to get this easy effort</a>.</p>
<p>Merkel did this also to snub the <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,PB64-SUQ9MTUwMDUmbnI9MTI_3,00.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">German peace-movement</a> and to do dirt on former chancelor Gerhard Schröder&#8217;s resistance against War on Iraq.</p>
<p>Everybody knows that Bush is too dumb to make a distinction between BBQ and G8. His behaviour is ridiculous anyway &#8211; but so is Mrs Merkel&#8217;s. She&#8217;s the one coquetishly sexualizing politics to supress substantial discussions. And Bush is only the idiot who thaught this was friendship.</p>
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		<title>By: fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny. for us germans this &quot;incident&quot; is funny. nothing more nothing less. and for us it has nothing to do with sexual harassment. it shows only (a bit) bad manners.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny. for us germans this &#8220;incident&#8221; is funny. nothing more nothing less. and for us it has nothing to do with sexual harassment. it shows only (a bit) bad manners.</p>
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