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	<title>Comments on: Arabic Intolerance in Middle East Creeping into USA Schools</title>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20...Smartalix....I&#039;m with you on that.  

#21...Mr. Fusion....hey Dude, we own a medium sized ranch and we sure as hell aren&#039;t going back to Mexico....we stole our land fair and square from the Indians, thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20&#8230;Smartalix&#8230;.I&#8217;m with you on that.  </p>
<p>#21&#8230;Mr. Fusion&#8230;.hey Dude, we own a medium sized ranch and we sure as hell aren&#8217;t going back to Mexico&#8230;.we stole our land fair and square from the Indians, thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. H. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/03/arabic-intolerance-in-middle-east-creeping-into-usa-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-238036</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. H. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15, Gregallen, Very well thought out post. I don&#039;t like the word &lt;i&gt;conservative&lt;/i&gt; though. In my opinion they might better be referred to as the &lt;b&gt;extreme&lt;/b&gt; or &lt;b&gt;radical&lt;/b&gt; fringe.

Many religious conservatives are very far from violent, such as Quakers and Amish. Many religious conservatives will be found in monasteries or convents, devoting themselves totally to their beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15, Gregallen, Very well thought out post. I don&#8217;t like the word <i>conservative</i> though. In my opinion they might better be referred to as the <b>extreme</b> or <b>radical</b> fringe.</p>
<p>Many religious conservatives are very far from violent, such as Quakers and Amish. Many religious conservatives will be found in monasteries or convents, devoting themselves totally to their beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. H. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/03/arabic-intolerance-in-middle-east-creeping-into-usa-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-238030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. H. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20, Could we, PLEASE. And send every one owning even a small ranch with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20, Could we, PLEASE. And send every one owning even a small ranch with it?</p>
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		<title>By: Smartalix</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/03/arabic-intolerance-in-middle-east-creeping-into-usa-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-237711</link>
		<dc:creator>Smartalix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do all who support land ownership based on ancient occupation also support giving North America back to the natives? How about at least giving Texas back to Mexico?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do all who support land ownership based on ancient occupation also support giving North America back to the natives? How about at least giving Texas back to Mexico?</p>
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		<title>By: AB CD</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/03/arabic-intolerance-in-middle-east-creeping-into-usa-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-237591</link>
		<dc:creator>AB CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone should point out to them that the Koran says Israel belongs to the Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should point out to them that the Koran says Israel belongs to the Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: John C Dvorak</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C Dvorak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I publish it to get you personally riled up. It works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I publish it to get you personally riled up. It works!</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/03/arabic-intolerance-in-middle-east-creeping-into-usa-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-237538</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not even going to argue with GregAllen because his &quot;analysis&quot; probably got him an &quot;A&quot; in a political science class at Berkeley. I&#039;ll just point out that his &quot;logic&quot; is based entirely on the habit of Dan Rather and his fellow travelers to label every foreign dictator as a &quot;conservative.&quot; Note that in their lexicon, there were even &quot;conservative communists.&quot; They did this in an effort to make it politically incorrect to be a conservative, and to justify outrageous behavior, such as blocking conservative speakers on campus. It shows an intellectually empty mindset simply designed to justify close-minded moral superiority and blind hatred of your opponents. These are people not interested in real solutions to difficult world problems, but only in punishing, humiliating, and hurting their enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even going to argue with GregAllen because his &#8220;analysis&#8221; probably got him an &#8220;A&#8221; in a political science class at Berkeley. I&#8217;ll just point out that his &#8220;logic&#8221; is based entirely on the habit of Dan Rather and his fellow travelers to label every foreign dictator as a &#8220;conservative.&#8221; Note that in their lexicon, there were even &#8220;conservative communists.&#8221; They did this in an effort to make it politically incorrect to be a conservative, and to justify outrageous behavior, such as blocking conservative speakers on campus. It shows an intellectually empty mindset simply designed to justify close-minded moral superiority and blind hatred of your opponents. These are people not interested in real solutions to difficult world problems, but only in punishing, humiliating, and hurting their enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is an excellent essay that notices the ever increasing intolerance of Islam, specifically Arab Islam.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t see this as a bad thing, since Arab Islam is being used as a cover for violence, and the majority of worshipers under Arab Islam don&#039;t feel a need to fight against it.

Why is the issue more complicated than that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is an excellent essay that notices the ever increasing intolerance of Islam, specifically Arab Islam.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see this as a bad thing, since Arab Islam is being used as a cover for violence, and the majority of worshipers under Arab Islam don&#8217;t feel a need to fight against it.</p>
<p>Why is the issue more complicated than that?</p>
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		<title>By: GregAllen</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregAllen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todays radicalism more about conservatism than they are about religion. 

But the problematic component is the conservatism, not the religion.

Stick with me before you flame:

Are liberal Muslims forming radical groups? (no!) Are moderate Jews gun-ho on starting WWIII? (no!) Are liberal Hindus butchering Muslims? (no!) Are moderate Christians for nuking Iran? (no!)

No! It is only the CONSERVATIVE wings of religion that causing all the problems.

But take the religion otu of it. Secular conservatives are more likely to be militant, these days. 

So, using logical deduction, you have to conclude that the troubling component is the CONSERVATISM, not the religion. 

But I think the worst-of-the-worst is the evil nexus of conservatism and religion.

(I concede that this was not always the case. Decades-ago, there used to be left-wing bomb throwers, by they&#039;ve pretty much faded away. Now most of the bomb throwers are conservatives.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todays radicalism more about conservatism than they are about religion. </p>
<p>But the problematic component is the conservatism, not the religion.</p>
<p>Stick with me before you flame:</p>
<p>Are liberal Muslims forming radical groups? (no!) Are moderate Jews gun-ho on starting WWIII? (no!) Are liberal Hindus butchering Muslims? (no!) Are moderate Christians for nuking Iran? (no!)</p>
<p>No! It is only the CONSERVATIVE wings of religion that causing all the problems.</p>
<p>But take the religion otu of it. Secular conservatives are more likely to be militant, these days. </p>
<p>So, using logical deduction, you have to conclude that the troubling component is the CONSERVATISM, not the religion. </p>
<p>But I think the worst-of-the-worst is the evil nexus of conservatism and religion.</p>
<p>(I concede that this was not always the case. Decades-ago, there used to be left-wing bomb throwers, by they&#8217;ve pretty much faded away. Now most of the bomb throwers are conservatives.)</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AB CD, It doesn&#039;t surprise me.  Islam seems to surpress information contrary to what is the koran.  If the world was ever to be taken over by muslims, it would plunge this world into a period of darkness, that would make the dark ages look like the renosances.  All thought surpressed.  No freedom for anyone. Science and research would end.  Relgion and prayer would be the sole reason for existance. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AB CD, It doesn&#8217;t surprise me.  Islam seems to surpress information contrary to what is the koran.  If the world was ever to be taken over by muslims, it would plunge this world into a period of darkness, that would make the dark ages look like the renosances.  All thought surpressed.  No freedom for anyone. Science and research would end.  Relgion and prayer would be the sole reason for existance.</p>
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		<title>By: AB CD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AB CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk to Palestinians and other Arabs, and they simply don&#039;t believe that there were ever Jews in Israel before 1948.  The map itself might be valid since Palestine used to mean Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk to Palestinians and other Arabs, and they simply don&#8217;t believe that there were ever Jews in Israel before 1948.  The map itself might be valid since Palestine used to mean Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/03/arabic-intolerance-in-middle-east-creeping-into-usa-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-237444</link>
		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Whose side are your on, and what do you think we should do about it?&quot;

Nuke them before they nuke us.  We have thousands of warhead sitting here, collecting dust.  Maybe if you used one, the world wouldn&#039;t think of us as pussies.  Examples, the nut job leader of N Korea, a small little insignificant country telling us he will retaliate against us if we stop his missle test.  Hello moron, one sub could reduce your whole country to ashes.  Maybe we should, then others like him, Castro, Chaves, that kook in Iran and other third world assholes would shit their pants and mind their place in the world.  We are the superpower, we should show that we are,  Peace comes from strength, those that don&#039;t believe that are doomed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whose side are your on, and what do you think we should do about it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nuke them before they nuke us.  We have thousands of warhead sitting here, collecting dust.  Maybe if you used one, the world wouldn&#8217;t think of us as pussies.  Examples, the nut job leader of N Korea, a small little insignificant country telling us he will retaliate against us if we stop his missle test.  Hello moron, one sub could reduce your whole country to ashes.  Maybe we should, then others like him, Castro, Chaves, that kook in Iran and other third world assholes would shit their pants and mind their place in the world.  We are the superpower, we should show that we are,  Peace comes from strength, those that don&#8217;t believe that are doomed.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine, &quot;organized religion&quot; is the problem. (As opposed to the unorganized kind?) 

But, unless you Bill &amp; Ted&#039;s out there want to get into your time machine and kill Jesus and Muhammad, and all the witch doctors and wizards who proceeded them, this is the world you&#039;ve got to deal with. Sitting there smugly in a drug-induced atheistic haze isn&#039;t going to help anyone. We are in a war that has been going on since at least the eight century. And now the Sword of Islam has a thermonuclear tip. Whose side are your on, and what do you think we should do about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine, &#8220;organized religion&#8221; is the problem. (As opposed to the unorganized kind?) </p>
<p>But, unless you Bill &amp; Ted&#8217;s out there want to get into your time machine and kill Jesus and Muhammad, and all the witch doctors and wizards who proceeded them, this is the world you&#8217;ve got to deal with. Sitting there smugly in a drug-induced atheistic haze isn&#8217;t going to help anyone. We are in a war that has been going on since at least the eight century. And now the Sword of Islam has a thermonuclear tip. Whose side are your on, and what do you think we should do about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLease. There has been no single war fought over religion. Religious leaders are out there pointing and laughing as people step in line with this faith or that.  You can&#039;t be pro mulsim/pro Isreali/Mormon !!!

I can&#039;t even read the American press, nor do I watch tv...Actually...all I do is look at blogs now.  I can&#039;t trust anthing.  Tech journals are trying to sell gadgets that have a shelf life of 2 years give or tech.  Journalists rely on the AP ( who is biased towards whomever is paying them for coverage ). History class in America is about the neocon / neo-conservative crusade over Islam...Ask a teacher ot teach anything else and they&#039;ll come out to tell you, &quot;Why...we won !&quot;

In the end its all garbage.  I read news reports like this and I am thinking several things.  Who funded the report.  Where was it published.  Who published it. Do they sleep with 6 year old children while living in a van down by the river ??? Can this report be verified by 2 other sources.  If so, by whom !  

Moreso, why is Dvorak publishing stuff like this ?  Is this something his son pulled up in reponse to a term paper ? Perhaps he is being paid by someone else to provide a counterpoint to all this press coverage lately.  Who knows.  Well actually, no one does. And there will come a time when I will never be able to read anything anyone has to say in fear of it being tainted propoganda of the state !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLease. There has been no single war fought over religion. Religious leaders are out there pointing and laughing as people step in line with this faith or that.  You can&#8217;t be pro mulsim/pro Isreali/Mormon !!!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even read the American press, nor do I watch tv&#8230;Actually&#8230;all I do is look at blogs now.  I can&#8217;t trust anthing.  Tech journals are trying to sell gadgets that have a shelf life of 2 years give or tech.  Journalists rely on the AP ( who is biased towards whomever is paying them for coverage ). History class in America is about the neocon / neo-conservative crusade over Islam&#8230;Ask a teacher ot teach anything else and they&#8217;ll come out to tell you, &#8220;Why&#8230;we won !&#8221;</p>
<p>In the end its all garbage.  I read news reports like this and I am thinking several things.  Who funded the report.  Where was it published.  Who published it. Do they sleep with 6 year old children while living in a van down by the river ??? Can this report be verified by 2 other sources.  If so, by whom !  </p>
<p>Moreso, why is Dvorak publishing stuff like this ?  Is this something his son pulled up in reponse to a term paper ? Perhaps he is being paid by someone else to provide a counterpoint to all this press coverage lately.  Who knows.  Well actually, no one does. And there will come a time when I will never be able to read anything anyone has to say in fear of it being tainted propoganda of the state !!!</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 12:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Either there’s something seriously wrong with this picture, or this God is simply evil&quot;

No God isn&#039;t evil, but organized religion is.  When man presumes to speak on Gods behalf, that is where the danger is.  And its not confined to the Muslims.  Christians are just as bad.  The pope has no more insite into God then anyone else.  He is just a man, plain and simple.

As to the muslim problem.  I have said that Muslimism, especially, muslim fundmentalism is the greatest threat to the world in thousands of years.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Either there’s something seriously wrong with this picture, or this God is simply evil&#8221;</p>
<p>No God isn&#8217;t evil, but organized religion is.  When man presumes to speak on Gods behalf, that is where the danger is.  And its not confined to the Muslims.  Christians are just as bad.  The pope has no more insite into God then anyone else.  He is just a man, plain and simple.</p>
<p>As to the muslim problem.  I have said that Muslimism, especially, muslim fundmentalism is the greatest threat to the world in thousands of years.</p>
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