Comments on: Town Council Meanies Kill Boy’s Worm Biz Because Of Sign http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:18:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mr. H. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-249721 Mr. H. Fusion Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:50:06 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-249721 So the kid is special. Instead of everyone getting equal treatment, some will be allowed to erect a sign while others can't. He has run the business out of his home for 2 or 3 years, so it is not a transient lemonade stand but more of a permanent business. So the kid is special. Instead of everyone getting equal treatment, some will be allowed to erect a sign while others can’t. He has run the business out of his home for 2 or 3 years, so it is not a transient lemonade stand but more of a permanent business.

]]> By: RonD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248772 RonD Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:14:54 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248772 I think the kid is different from other businesses. His is more in line with lemonade stands or farm produce stands which don't require the zoning commission's permission for their signs. Now if the kid was running a full fledged bait and tackle shop it would be different. But he is only selling worms for $2.50 a dozen and in a good month makes $10. Meanwhile, the public outcry is having an effect. The commissioner who objected to the sign is now saying that "other town officials overreacted to his inquiry and that he will ask the board to rescind the order when it meets again in September." But the minutes of the Cromwell Zoning Commission meeting in June indicates that Diaz is the one who said the sign should be removed. http://tinyurl.com/gxwvk and http://tinyurl.com/h83u9 I think the kid is different from other businesses. His is more in line with lemonade stands or farm produce stands which don’t require the zoning commission’s permission for their signs. Now if the kid was running a full fledged bait and tackle shop it would be different. But he is only selling worms for $2.50 a dozen and in a good month makes $10. Meanwhile, the public outcry is having an effect. The commissioner who objected to the sign is now saying that “other town officials overreacted to his inquiry and that he will ask the board to rescind the order when it meets again in September.” But the minutes of the Cromwell Zoning Commission meeting in June indicates that Diaz is the one who said the sign should be removed.

http://tinyurl.com/gxwvk and http://tinyurl.com/h83u9

]]> By: Mr. H. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248723 Mr. H. Fusion Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:11:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248723 I really don't understand this. The kid is no different from any other business, so why should he get special treatment. Sheesh, did they insist he get a Business Permit first? Did they insist he carry insurance? Did they insist he obtain a Vendor's License? Did they insist he have a Sales Tax Number? NO !!! All they did was enforce a zoning law that requires permission before erecting a sign in residential neighborhoods. All they did was enforce the residence to the same standard that every other house on that street is held to. If the zoning law prohibited animals other then dogs and cats, would you complain if he wanted to raise a cow for the 4H Club? How about if he started a body shop? Or a rendering plant? If you disagree with the law, then let your representative know. If your representative doesn't listen, then vote for someone else or run yourself. In America we follow the rule of law. We don't start a rebellion because we don't like the zoning laws. I really don’t understand this. The kid is no different from any other business, so why should he get special treatment. Sheesh, did they insist he get a Business Permit first? Did they insist he carry insurance? Did they insist he obtain a Vendor’s License? Did they insist he have a Sales Tax Number? NO !!! All they did was enforce a zoning law that requires permission before erecting a sign in residential neighborhoods. All they did was enforce the residence to the same standard that every other house on that street is held to.

If the zoning law prohibited animals other then dogs and cats, would you complain if he wanted to raise a cow for the 4H Club? How about if he started a body shop? Or a rendering plant?

If you disagree with the law, then let your representative know. If your representative doesn’t listen, then vote for someone else or run yourself. In America we follow the rule of law. We don’t start a rebellion because we don’t like the zoning laws.

]]> By: RonD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248694 RonD Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:21:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248694 <i>He said he told Cromwell's zoning enforcement officer to deal with the problematic worm sign,<b> which he said could hurt the residential character</b> of the Washington Road area. "In a residential zone, if you want to put up a business and work out of your home you really need a special permit," Diaz said. <b>"You come before the commission</b> and state your case ...and then a decision is made. Chiropractors do that, lawyers do that, doctors do that, and <b>then you're allowed to put up a sign</b>." </i> So the real problem is the kid did not go grovel before the commission to get permission for his business. I would think that home businesses that involve a profession such as doctor or lawyer would be more hurtful to the "residential character" of a neighborhood than would a kid's fish bait business. He said he told Cromwell’s zoning enforcement officer to deal with the problematic worm sign, which he said could hurt the residential character of the Washington Road area.

“In a residential zone, if you want to put up a business and work out of your home you really need a special permit,” Diaz said. “You come before the commission and state your case …and then a decision is made. Chiropractors do that, lawyers do that, doctors do that, and then you’re allowed to put up a sign.”

So the real problem is the kid did not go grovel before the commission to get permission for his business. I would think that home businesses that involve a profession such as doctor or lawyer would be more hurtful to the “residential character” of a neighborhood than would a kid’s fish bait business.

]]> By: OmarTheAlien http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248689 OmarTheAlien Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:08:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248689 The worms, I suspect, are happy. The worms, I suspect, are happy.

]]> By: glenn http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248542 glenn Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:54:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248542 But require him to look up the spelling of "night". But require him to look up the spelling of “night”.

]]> By: Clayton J. Quinnell http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248455 Clayton J. Quinnell Sat, 12 Aug 2006 18:17:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248455 A t-shirt I saw last weekend comes to mind. "Stop Whining... ... and start a Revolution!" A t-shirt I saw last weekend comes to mind.
“Stop Whining…
… and start a Revolution!”

]]> By: James Hill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248420 James Hill Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:05:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248420 Anyone know a lawyer in Hartford we could hire to fight for this kid? Also, anyone know the home phone numbers of the town council members? I'm sure the Internet would like to spread this informaiton. Anyone know a lawyer in Hartford we could hire to fight for this kid?

Also, anyone know the home phone numbers of the town council members? I’m sure the Internet would like to spread this informaiton.

]]> By: BobH http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248372 BobH Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:53:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248372 What's really needed is a common sense ruling from the Supreme Court. Said edict should carry with it a severe fiscal penalty for frivilous lawsuits as well as absurd ordinance creation/enforcement. What’s really needed is a common sense ruling from the Supreme Court. Said edict should carry with it a severe fiscal penalty for frivilous lawsuits as well as absurd ordinance creation/enforcement.

]]> By: RonD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248365 RonD Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:37:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248365 <i>Just let the boy have his night crawler stand, said First Selectman Paul Beaulieu. Reason, he said, should have stepped in when the regulations were vague. "There's the letter of the law, but there's also common sense," he said. "This was over the top. Kids selling night crawlers and lemonade are part and parcel of life in small-town Connecticut." </i> Amen! Just let the boy have his night crawler stand, said First Selectman Paul Beaulieu. Reason, he said, should have stepped in when the regulations were vague.

“There’s the letter of the law, but there’s also common sense,” he said. “This was over the top. Kids selling night crawlers and lemonade are part and parcel of life in small-town Connecticut.”

Amen!

]]> By: gquaglia http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248343 gquaglia Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:39:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248343 Sounds like my town. Small towns have a rule and ordinance for everything. Probably some cry baby neighbor complained and the town official was forced to act. Sounds like my town. Small towns have a rule and ordinance for everything. Probably some cry baby neighbor complained and the town official was forced to act.

]]> By: OhForTheLoveOf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248340 OhForTheLoveOf Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:36:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248340 Bruce and Drew... I couldn't agree more. Sitting down and taking it... like sheep... is how we got here. It is time for people to stand up and say that we will no longer tolerate the insipid micromanagement of our lives we've come to tolerate from the government, at all levels, and from corporate America as well. These people work for us. It is not our job to be obedient. Bruce and Drew…

I couldn’t agree more. Sitting down and taking it… like sheep… is how we got here. It is time for people to stand up and say that we will no longer tolerate the insipid micromanagement of our lives we’ve come to tolerate from the government, at all levels, and from corporate America as well.

These people work for us. It is not our job to be obedient.

]]> By: Drew http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248324 Drew Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:01:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248324 Agreed #1 - these cities really have their priorities in the wrong order. Agreed #1 – these cities really have their priorities in the wrong order.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/12/town-council-meanies-kill-boys-worm-biz-because-of-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-248316 Bruce Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:48:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6588#comment-248316 Push back. For the city to come and arrest you, and make sure all local tv and radio is there to witness it. Just write "F*** Off!" on the C&D and send it back. Push back. For the city to come and arrest you, and make sure all local tv and radio is there to witness it.

Just write “F*** Off!” on the C&D and send it back.

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