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		<title>By: Mike Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-262643</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to take my camera to the Oregon State Fair, next week, just in case I spot one of those &quot;heifers&quot; posing!

Who knows, I may even get a picture of the Virgin Mary... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to take my camera to the Oregon State Fair, next week, just in case I spot one of those &#8220;heifers&#8221; posing!</p>
<p>Who knows, I may even get a picture of the Virgin Mary&#8230; <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-262072</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>21,
wellllll,
Because Nature has been doing it for Alooonnngggg time, and has come to this point.  Science, has been doing it for, MAYBE, 200 years...
But we have stagnated the advancement of cattle...WE, us, not nature has been controlling its advancment for 1000&#039;s of years.
Go to the middle east and try and find a Jersey, or ANY of the cattle we have in domesticated reagions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21,<br />
wellllll,<br />
Because Nature has been doing it for Alooonnngggg time, and has come to this point.  Science, has been doing it for, MAYBE, 200 years&#8230;<br />
But we have stagnated the advancement of cattle&#8230;WE, us, not nature has been controlling its advancment for 1000&#8217;s of years.<br />
Go to the middle east and try and find a Jersey, or ANY of the cattle we have in domesticated reagions.</p>
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		<title>By: Joao</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261676</link>
		<dc:creator>Joao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankenstein was a character, not a real person.

Chernobyl was real...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankenstein was a character, not a real person.</p>
<p>Chernobyl was real&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Teyecoon</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261669</link>
		<dc:creator>Teyecoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We blame the cow&#039;s bad genetics for all the horrible things we&#039;ve done to their environment and bodies with chemicals and limited living space and the problems surfacing from the fact that we feed these herbivores their own species ground up in their food to speed weight gain.  

Yeah, it&#039;s the cows bad genetics that need fixed.{sarcasm}

BTW, anyone older than mid 30&#039;s remember when the non-GM food actually had some enjoyable natural taste to it and didn&#039;t require all the flavoring it needs today?  The majority of fruits and vegs today look nice but taste like cardboard and the fact that apples don&#039;t turn all brown when cut and left out anymore is a visual clue to the reason.

&lt;i&gt;Quote: &quot;Why do you guys hate science so much?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
We don&#039;t, Frankenstein was a marvelous creation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We blame the cow&#8217;s bad genetics for all the horrible things we&#8217;ve done to their environment and bodies with chemicals and limited living space and the problems surfacing from the fact that we feed these herbivores their own species ground up in their food to speed weight gain.  </p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s the cows bad genetics that need fixed.{sarcasm}</p>
<p>BTW, anyone older than mid 30&#8217;s remember when the non-GM food actually had some enjoyable natural taste to it and didn&#8217;t require all the flavoring it needs today?  The majority of fruits and vegs today look nice but taste like cardboard and the fact that apples don&#8217;t turn all brown when cut and left out anymore is a visual clue to the reason.</p>
<p><i>Quote: &#8220;Why do you guys hate science so much?&#8221;</i><br />
We don&#8217;t, Frankenstein was a marvelous creation!</p>
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		<title>By: AB CD</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261553</link>
		<dc:creator>AB CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you guys hate science so much?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you guys hate science so much?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyM</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261347</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnyM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 02:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knew the Dvorak blog was a closet Furry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knew the Dvorak blog was a closet Furry?</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261194</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you guys are interested in seeing more &quot;cows&quot; like that check http://www.furaffinity.net.

For those who prefer the bulls here&#039;s a great artist http://www.furaffinity.net/user/braford0005/

Just remember that you can surf the site freely but you can&#039;t see the NSFW pieces unless you log in or modify the settings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you guys are interested in seeing more &#8220;cows&#8221; like that check <a href="http://www.furaffinity.net" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.furaffinity.net' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.furaffinity.net</a>.</p>
<p>For those who prefer the bulls here&#8217;s a great artist <a href="http://www.furaffinity.net/user/braford0005/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.furaffinity.net/user/braford0005/' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.furaffinity.net/user/braford0005/</a></p>
<p>Just remember that you can surf the site freely but you can&#8217;t see the NSFW pieces unless you log in or modify the settings.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when cows, FLY, we will need better umbrellas..

Nature likes to Cull the week, and most things nature brings along does a good job..
What HURTS, is that MAN can circle the planet in 24 hours and spread a disease to all corners of a planet, NOT just that 1 little location, in S. Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when cows, FLY, we will need better umbrellas..</p>
<p>Nature likes to Cull the week, and most things nature brings along does a good job..<br />
What HURTS, is that MAN can circle the planet in 24 hours and spread a disease to all corners of a planet, NOT just that 1 little location, in S. Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: Joao</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261114</link>
		<dc:creator>Joao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &quot;Natural Cow&quot; is something that does not exist. Neither a natural Dog or a natural Cat. In fact a cow 300 years ago would look a lot different of that spotted icon on your keychain. Farm animals are what they are now, trough thousands of years of selective reproduction. 
So now we are stepping a little bit on the pedal and try to make evolution happen in decades instead of  centuries...Ok! Just hope we are wise enough to beware of &quot;fools gold&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;Natural Cow&#8221; is something that does not exist. Neither a natural Dog or a natural Cat. In fact a cow 300 years ago would look a lot different of that spotted icon on your keychain. Farm animals are what they are now, trough thousands of years of selective reproduction.<br />
So now we are stepping a little bit on the pedal and try to make evolution happen in decades instead of  centuries&#8230;Ok! Just hope we are wise enough to beware of &#8220;fools gold&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 2xbob</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261110</link>
		<dc:creator>2xbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 &quot;oh, wait, can someone define natural for me? and how humans are not natural? if a beaver builds a dam, its natural, right, so, if a man builds a house, same thing… so if a man builds a cow….&quot;

The problem with this is that genetic code is not linear. What I mean is, a change in patterns in one place can have a radical effect elsewhere. People have been eating and domesticating cows for quite awhile and we know reletivly the effect on the human body. These new super cows could end up being carsegenic or play host to the super virus... Not to mention I dont think, in good faith, I could ever eat something that could talk back to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 &#8220;oh, wait, can someone define natural for me? and how humans are not natural? if a beaver builds a dam, its natural, right, so, if a man builds a house, same thing… so if a man builds a cow….&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem with this is that genetic code is not linear. What I mean is, a change in patterns in one place can have a radical effect elsewhere. People have been eating and domesticating cows for quite awhile and we know reletivly the effect on the human body. These new super cows could end up being carsegenic or play host to the super virus&#8230; Not to mention I dont think, in good faith, I could ever eat something that could talk back to me.</p>
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		<title>By: OhForTheLoveOf</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261072</link>
		<dc:creator>OhForTheLoveOf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4&lt;i&gt;Not all things ‘Natural’ are good things. As proven by the Ebola Virus, the Hanta Virus, and the Bee Gees.

Comment by Thorndike — 8/22/2006 @ 10:45 am&lt;/i&gt;

HEY!!  You leave the Hanta Virus out of this!!! 

#7&lt;i&gt;oh, wait, can someone define natural for me? and how humans are not natural? if a beaver builds a dam, its natural, right, so, if a man builds a house, same thing… so if a man builds a cow….

Comment by woktiny — 8/22/2006 @ 12:03 pm&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly right. I do not fear man tinkering with genetics. I fear corporations lacking the patience to get it right before they release a deadly abomination on the public. What has happened to our food in the last 50 years is horrifying and you can see the effect in our overall poor health. Corporate food is not healthy, period.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4<i>Not all things ‘Natural’ are good things. As proven by the Ebola Virus, the Hanta Virus, and the Bee Gees.</p>
<p>Comment by Thorndike — 8/22/2006 @ 10:45 am</i></p>
<p>HEY!!  You leave the Hanta Virus out of this!!! </p>
<p>#7<i>oh, wait, can someone define natural for me? and how humans are not natural? if a beaver builds a dam, its natural, right, so, if a man builds a house, same thing… so if a man builds a cow….</p>
<p>Comment by woktiny — 8/22/2006 @ 12:03 pm</i></p>
<p>Exactly right. I do not fear man tinkering with genetics. I fear corporations lacking the patience to get it right before they release a deadly abomination on the public. What has happened to our food in the last 50 years is horrifying and you can see the effect in our overall poor health. Corporate food is not healthy, period.</p>
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		<title>By: prophet</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261036</link>
		<dc:creator>prophet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap...actual nudity on the Dvorak board!  I knew I liked coming to this place for a reason....

I am strangely amused and yet disturbed that I am happy about this....

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap&#8230;actual nudity on the Dvorak board!  I knew I liked coming to this place for a reason&#8230;.</p>
<p>I am strangely amused and yet disturbed that I am happy about this&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: woktiny</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/geneticists-ready-to-transform-cows/comment-page-1/#comment-261000</link>
		<dc:creator>woktiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GIS?
do a quick google image search for heifer and find out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GIS?<br />
do a quick google image search for heifer and find out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RTaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>RTaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t even want to know the GIS search vocabulary that found that image. I guess you could say she&#039;s a heifer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even want to know the GIS search vocabulary that found that image. I guess you could say she&#8217;s a heifer.</p>
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		<title>By: Calin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not all things ‘Natural’ are good things. As proven by the Ebola Virus, the Hanta Virus, and the Bee Gees.&lt;/i&gt;

I beg to differ, there is nothing &#039;natural&#039; about the Bee Gees.  Their music, image, and powers come directly from the Dark One himself.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not all things ‘Natural’ are good things. As proven by the Ebola Virus, the Hanta Virus, and the Bee Gees.</i></p>
<p>I beg to differ, there is nothing &#8216;natural&#8217; about the Bee Gees.  Their music, image, and powers come directly from the Dark One himself.</p>
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