Comments on: Reduction in fixed costs? If you’re Verizon, you raise prices! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:53:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Teyecoon http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-262938 Teyecoon Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:32:11 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-262938 13. Your absolutely right but in this country all the big businesses have become friends and cronies of the government rather than the government doing it's job like a parent and actually regulating the business environment to prevent the inequities that occur from limited competition or even colusion. Corporations actually control this gov't more with all the improper campaign funding than the other way around. The public would likely be better off having the power to elect the CEO's of companies than wasting time electing useless gov't officials. 13. Your absolutely right but in this country all the big businesses have become friends and cronies of the government rather than the government doing it’s job like a parent and actually regulating the business environment to prevent the inequities that occur from limited competition or even colusion. Corporations actually control this gov’t more with all the improper campaign funding than the other way around. The public would likely be better off having the power to elect the CEO’s of companies than wasting time electing useless gov’t officials.

]]> By: RichardN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-262893 RichardN Thu, 24 Aug 2006 04:56:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-262893 To AB CD on post #11 You should care because when one does it and gets away with it they all start doing it! To AB CD on post #11

You should care because when one does it and gets away with it they all start doing it!

]]> By: Anon http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-262039 Anon Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:35:36 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-262039 who said anything about using Skype exclusively? Try reading comprehension before opening your idiot mouth. who said anything about using Skype exclusively? Try reading comprehension before opening your idiot mouth.

]]> By: Zuke http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261971 Zuke Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:43:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261971 Skype? WTF? Try using Skype when your car breaks down on the side of the road and see how far that gets you. I have Verizon cell service and it's got good service coverage in my county. It's cool that the nature of this new charge has come to light, but seriously, if you don't like the prices, change providers. There's too much competition in cell service to bitch about prices for longer than a minute or so. Skype? WTF? Try using Skype when your car breaks down on the side of the road and see how far that gets you.

I have Verizon cell service and it’s got good service coverage in my county. It’s cool that the nature of this new charge has come to light, but seriously, if you don’t like the prices, change providers. There’s too much competition in cell service to bitch about prices for longer than a minute or so.

]]> By: Mike Voice http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261838 Mike Voice Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:02:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261838 11 <i>Why do you care what Verizon chooses to charge? </i> For the same reason I care how much my electricity provider charges me. Since I live in Oregon, where Portland General Electric [PGE] was collecting state taxes on its bills to customers, and forwarding that money to Enron [corporate parent] - who would then take writeoffs and not pay any taxes! The utilities want to collect the tax <i>just in case</i> they <b>don't</b> have enough write-offs. But they don't want to refund/credit it to us if they <b>do</b> have enough write-offs. http://oregoncub.org/archives/2006/07/cub_praises_puc_1.php <i>For almost a year, CUB, industry groups, the utilities and the Commission themselves have wrangled with the question of how to solve this problem of <b>phantom taxation</b>: taxes paid by customers to a utility, but retained by a consolidated corporate utility due to its tax deductions.</i> 11 Why do you care what Verizon chooses to charge?

For the same reason I care how much my electricity provider charges me.

Since I live in Oregon, where Portland General Electric [PGE] was collecting state taxes on its bills to customers, and forwarding that money to Enron [corporate parent] – who would then take writeoffs and not pay any taxes!

The utilities want to collect the tax just in case they don’t have enough write-offs. But they don’t want to refund/credit it to us if they do have enough write-offs.

http://oregoncub.org/archives/2006/07/cub_praises_puc_1.php

For almost a year, CUB, industry groups, the utilities and the Commission themselves have wrangled with the question of how to solve this problem of phantom taxation: taxes paid by customers to a utility, but retained by a consolidated corporate utility due to its tax deductions.

]]> By: Jim Smith http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261830 Jim Smith Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:53:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261830 Oh no! George Bush, Iraq, global warming and now Verizon! For shame, for shame. Woe to me. Woe to me. I want to move to France where nothing bad, unfair or unjust ever happens! Oh no! George Bush, Iraq, global warming and now Verizon! For shame, for shame. Woe to me. Woe to me. I want to move to France where nothing bad, unfair or unjust ever happens!

]]> By: Doug http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261756 Doug Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:01:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261756 Of course companies are out make money. WE WANT THEM TO. Companies are not bad nor greedy. The fault lies squarly on our government for not regulating extremely important services where actual competition does not exist. Net neutrality anyone?? How do we know if there is competition? Because the cream rises where competition exists. MS Word is a piece of crap. Obviously little competition. Google's services, such as AdWords and Checkout are right on target. They live in a world of competition. The Internet is much too important for our countries future economic growth to let companies like Verizon and Comcast control the content. I think it is insane that the govenment doesn't step in an regulate the data pipe to your house IN ORDER TO BOLSTER COMPETITION, REAL COMPETITION. Telephone service, HD television, HD radio. It would be a sweet world if communication competition happened. Regulation will indeed hurt the communications companies bottom line. Competition hurts! But they can still make a fortune, they just need to offer things better and cheaper, something they are not used to doing. Regulation is a small price to pay for the future economic growth. And by the way, other countries won't permit behemoths to regulate competition and their high tech growth will outshine American. Of course companies are out make money. WE WANT THEM TO. Companies are not bad nor greedy. The fault lies squarly on our government for not regulating extremely important services where actual competition does not exist. Net neutrality anyone??

How do we know if there is competition? Because the cream rises where competition exists. MS Word is a piece of crap. Obviously little competition. Google’s services, such as AdWords and Checkout are right on target. They live in a world of competition.

The Internet is much too important for our countries future economic growth to let companies like Verizon and Comcast control the content. I think it is insane that the govenment doesn’t step in an regulate the data pipe to your house IN ORDER TO BOLSTER COMPETITION, REAL COMPETITION. Telephone service, HD television, HD radio. It would be a sweet world if communication competition happened.

Regulation will indeed hurt the communications companies bottom line. Competition hurts! But they can still make a fortune, they just need to offer things better and cheaper, something they are not used to doing. Regulation is a small price to pay for the future economic growth. And by the way, other countries won’t permit behemoths to regulate competition and their high tech growth will outshine American.

]]> By: Teyecoon http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261674 Teyecoon Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:36:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261674 How about the same lame argument that people used to defend Microsoft..."If you don't like it then don't use it." You got other options like smoke signals or telepathy or just yelling real loud. They're a business simply trying to make a profit to feed their employees so don't be capitalistic haters. Who are you to judge how much profit they are allowed to make? The preceeding was for the M$ fanbois who might be one of the complainers here about the phone companies. How about the same lame argument that people used to defend Microsoft…”If you don’t like it then don’t use it.” You got other options like smoke signals or telepathy or just yelling real loud. They’re a business simply trying to make a profit to feed their employees so don’t be capitalistic haters. Who are you to judge how much profit they are allowed to make?

The preceeding was for the M$ fanbois who might be one of the complainers here about the phone companies.

]]> By: AB CD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261552 AB CD Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:16:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261552 Why do you care what Verizon chooses to charge? Why do you care what Verizon chooses to charge?

]]> By: RichardN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261499 RichardN Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:42:10 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261499 Yes, this is out and out greed but I have a bigger bone to pick with the cellular companies. My cell carrier charges me $0.70 a month for 911 service. Now, if they all charge each customer at least $0.70 each month that means connecting to the existing 911 service is costing MILLIONS each month! How come the system costs so much to maintain each month and shouldn't we expect to know how much of this government mandated fee is actually going to support the 911 system and how much going to a bunch of lame assed executives who's only job is to screw us out of more money so the CEO can 'earn' a larger bonus. Yes, this is out and out greed but I have a bigger bone to pick with the cellular companies.

My cell carrier charges me $0.70 a month for 911 service. Now, if they all charge each customer at least $0.70 each month that means connecting to the existing 911 service is costing MILLIONS each month!

How come the system costs so much to maintain each month and shouldn’t we expect to know how much of this government mandated fee is actually going to support the 911 system and how much going to a bunch of lame assed executives who’s only job is to screw us out of more money so the CEO can ‘earn’ a larger bonus.

]]> By: kris2pe http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261299 kris2pe Wed, 23 Aug 2006 01:55:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261299 Can you blame companies? Their aim is to profit!!! Your lucky, you guys know when companies just pulled as fast one on you! Some countries like mine. We rarely get to hear it! If ever we get to hear it companies just stick their middle finger & say suck on that bitch!!! Can you blame companies? Their aim is to profit!!! Your lucky, you guys know when companies just pulled as fast one on you! Some countries like mine. We rarely get to hear it! If ever we get to hear it companies just stick their middle finger & say suck on that bitch!!!

]]> By: Dan http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261190 Dan Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:58:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261190 When they write the history of this business the Billions stolen from consumers will be the story. When they write the history of this business the Billions stolen from consumers will be the story.

]]> By: Milo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261130 Milo Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:15:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261130 Check out Verizon's new calling plan: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/51834 Check out Verizon’s new calling plan:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/51834

]]> By: Joao http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261111 Joao Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:53:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261111 And that's why you'll need net neutrality... see the connection here? And that’s why you’ll need net neutrality…

see the connection here?

]]> By: Anon http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/22/reduction-in-fixed-costs-if-youre-verizon-you-raise-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-261106 Anon Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:47:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6721#comment-261106 ' ' Verizon is one of those old-style Telcos that would bring a teary eye to no one — if they simply vanished — and were replaced by a company that derived it’s income from quality service and innovation.' ' Skype? In all seriousness though, Skype's great. ‘ ‘ Verizon is one of those old-style Telcos that would bring a teary eye to no one — if they simply vanished — and were replaced by a company that derived it’s income from quality service and innovation.’ ‘

Skype?

In all seriousness though, Skype’s great.

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