Maybe I’m being harsh, but when I get flyers like this on the windshield of my car put there by what I think was some guy wearing a pony-tail I seriously think it’s time to leave the area. I have no idea what this means. Can a reader enlighten me?
Side one of flyer (click to enlarge)
Backside of flyer (click to enlarge)
I just do not get this one.
What??? No address to send money??? Is he crazy???
Well, at least we know he’s not Southern Baptist !
It makes about as much sense as some nonsensical rant suggesting that Apple is going to ditch their OS for Windows…
Face it John, there are crazy people in this world with crazy ideas; no use trying to make sense of them.
I just tried to post this answer and was blocked for using a blind IP. So here it is again.
Ok, here goes. . . don’t kill the messenger. Some people believe that the true word of God is actually hidden in the Bible these believers are actually more commonly found digging through the Torah then the King James as the later has been rewritten so many times. By using mathematical formula like the one here, these codes or true word of God can be found. Among the things these folks are looking for is the meaning of life and your guessed it when it all ends. As formula go this one is not bad although it is a rip form one of the more popular of these guys, and there are some good size holes left in the middle.
Okay I think I *might* get what this flyer is saying.
Basically the guy who made this flyer has watched the movie Pi too many times if you ask me. Probably while smoking a bowl as well, if not more then one.
The whole flyer revolves around matrix mathmatics and how the numerology of these matricies add up in unique ways with each different matrix adding up to correspond to different aspect of christianity and other wierdo offshoot religions.
I cant say that I see exactly how the numerology of these equation in this flyer adds up in any significant way however. You really should stop shopping as Rasputins for CDs when the hippies are out in force on the weekends John.
Nah…it’s just a flyer for my new sub sandwich shop in the area. The ones that could figure it out got a free coupon, that’s all.
You clearly need better than an HP41 to figure THAT one out…
I beleive it is the trajectory calculation for the Absurdity bomb the god intends to fire at theh Earth from Pluto. After all he’s really pissed about this”not a planet thing.”
It’s time to move out of there ! Here in Texas, we get to hear how god doesn’t love baby killers. Great stuff.
And the guy with the pony-tail walked away muttering about the short-haired neocon that took the flyer off the car window……
Look, its Berkeley, expect this stuff. I heard once that two major things come from berkeley, BSD and LSD and there is a good chance the two are related. Numerology is often a missing the message to insert one of your own.
it’s the “homer theroy”
-mathematical proof that god does not exist
Its a Mac lover showing mathmatical proof that John C. Dvorak is the antichrist.
Actually, I don’t see any evidence that the author believed in God, but merely the curious rabbit trail of a math student. plenty of seculars study the bible for this or that, its quite popular.
And his middle name is Finnish. Exchange student? The sharpest Finns tend to be either atheists or pagans.
These are the same people who believe nuclear war will start Sept 12th 2006.
I received a flyer on my porch last week (Colorado) about these people. It was in newsletter form not like the mumbo jumbo above. This is really a cult. I can post a bunch of links about them but do a google search for Yahweh or Prophetic world.
Where the cult is based the athorities are accusing the cult of making there followers sell there real estate because of the Sept 12th date and nuclear war.
I am assuming this is the same people related to the flyer I recieved last week. Which had a similar saying.
This is a little to scary to me. No I don’t believe them.
John
This guy works on the production crew for “LOST” 
Guy kills himself, son kills the boss and mother kills herself. It’s murder by numbers, it’s one two three and it’s as easy to learn as your ABC’s. Wasn’t that a song? You should not move because of one flyer. The nutballs are everywhere. In our area, they are into some sort of new age reverse aging bullshit. You are supposed to get old. Now it’s possible to not get old. Salvation from old age. The cult of eternal youth. The whole country is in a midlife crisis.
It’s a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. You begin to twist facts to suit theories, instead of twisting theories to suit facts. At least they have data, the point of which is…well I don’t know what the point is. Maybe the only way to find out is by joining the group. I can’t picture you running around Berkeley plastering windshields with these, but that may be the only way to gain insights into the meaning of this flyer. Maybe it’s a fictional religion, as opposed to a factual religion. It looks like code. We are beyond math today. Researchers have developed quantum cryptography that uses lasers and physics instead of math to secure data. Math can’t explain everything. Using it to explain religion is just plain confusing.
This stuff could mean anything you want it to. Just like the bible.
DUDE – Its OBVIOUSLY a Google recruitment tool.
Figure out the matrix, and you unlock the message which reads “Meet in the Green Room of the Plum Building on Bloom Day for your interview”
Yeah, check with Google. If they can’t figure it out, it can’t be figured out. The average blog reader is going to spend less than a minute on it and give up. Do a great Google ad test on your own and let’s see what kind of ads start appearing. It could contain code to get a whole bunch of clicks and lead to eternal AdWord wealth.
I’m telling you this guy works for the Hanso Foundation.
Jim Dermitt
“We are beyond math today. Researchers have developed quantum cryptography that uses lasers and physics instead of math to secure data”
Do you even know what you are saying? The foundation of cryptography is math. The same goes for Physics.
Your comment make no sense.
it looks like a bagel without a hole…
Here J.
“Where traditional cryptography is based on complex mathematics, we instead use the laws of physics to guarantee communication security,” explains team leader Dr Ping Koy Lam
“Although several groups around the world have quantum cryptographic technology, our group was one of the first in the world to demonstrate the transmission of a completely secret key via bright laser beams and common optics,” said Dr Thomas Symul.
http://www.physorg.com/news75565528.html
Interesting breakthrough. With unbreakable codes, we can do all sorts of new stuff. Forget about ID theft. It’s a bright idea.
“factual religion”?
Well, at least you’ve moved from non sequitur to self-contradicting definitions.
Our current security and crypto is all broken at various points. That’s what is slowing down progress. You have government snoops all over the place. Send the flyer to the NSA John. They can decode it. Maybe it’s connected with terrorism. Everything else seems to be from chapstick to your shoe soles.
I dunno man. Things like that are part of the charm of Berkeley to me.
OOPS! I meant actual religion. One with big buildings and stuff. My mistake, my f-bomb.
Jim Dermitt
I am well aware of what they are doing. I am just saying that it all includes math. So we are not beyond math and we are not using those technologies instead of math. They require math!
Here is what I think would be wild. A guy goes to his car and finds this thing on the windshield. He looks at it for a minute and shouts, “Holy crap! They’ve figured it out!!” Then he runs off.
I did not see that happeneing.
Ah, you gotta love the Land of Nuts and Flakes!
But honestly, is the view in San Francisco worth living amongst these types of weirdos?
John and everybody else
This is basically a “mathematical proof” (not really because some of the math is wrong) using bible passages of what happens when you die and are prepared for heaven. The three stages of death. Good people go through 3 Evil people only 2.
I could elaborate but it could be a very long explanation!
See what happens when unstable people get exposed to religion?
And I’m telling ya it is a publicity stunt for the T.V. Show “LOST”
#33But honestly, is the view in San Francisco worth living amongst these types of weirdos?
Comment by Mark T. — 8/25/2006 @ 12:41 pm
Yes.
I guess we can’t get to far away from math. If numbers become any more important than they already are, we could be in trouble.
You can bet that people aren’t going to spend much time sorting the thing out. Maybe it’s a warning and you should move out of the area. A big earthquake is going to dump California into the ocean and this flyer could be proof of it. After the earthquake, you’ll have somebody in Las Vegas saying we told you so. We even put flyers on cars in Berkeley!
Well, it didn’t blow up … so probably not Islamic.
oops! Ignore #34
I wasn’t thinking correctly. It is still a mathematical proof but it is about End of Days!
I can’t believe i am even interested in this madness!
John Dvorak has a way of making madness interesting. Get out of California. Run for your lives.
This looks to me like a cry for attention. The author of this item may be overstimulated by fears or concerns that great suffering will come toward him or toward his world. I would be very surprised if it was a female author.
He seems to be an intelligent person who has had a fairly strong religious influence in his past. Christian based religions instill a lot of fear in children during their sunday school years. A sensitive, intelligent person who has emotional struggles, abandoment experiences or possibly one too many drug experiences can sometimes get their wires crossed internally, leading to a need for recognition or help.
He is likely an introvert, too shy to ask for support directly, and too confused to know that he needs it.
It is also possible that he is having an unguided kundalini awakening, from intense exposure to heavy amounts of deep spiritual/religious research. In this case, he may be temporarily very confused, as he is trying to make sense out of it mentally.
If a mathematically smart man also goes on an intense religious quest, he can find many ways to interpret the intense language in the bible, particularly the book of Revelation, as a coded math puzzle that, once solved, will reveal all the secrets of man, god, the devil and the universe.
This can become doubly confusing, because many spiritual texts do have sacred numbering systems, and at certain layers of understanding these numbers have meaning. For example, the Bhagavad Gita has 18 discourses, which some commentators break down into 2 x 9 or 2 x 3 x 3. Three is important in christianity, father, son, holy ghost. Three is important in hinduism, Create – Sustain – Dissolve: Brahma – Vishnu – Shiva.
If the universe is, at some layer divine and harmonious, the mathematical and physical dynamics underlying its observable actions would make sublime sense, and interconnect somehow, as this man is attempting to show on these pages. In a heightened, but unstable state of mind, he may be intuiting this, but I hope for his sake, that he eventually gets through this and is able to have a stable experience.
Kind of reminds me of “A Beautiful Mind” with Russell Crowe.
Great analysis and post by BillQ. I was reminded of the DaVinci Code. This weird theory could be turned into a book, a movie and internet marketing effort. It could bring in millions of dollars with the right talent and a little Hollywood backing.
This seems likely to be schizophrenia. Those guys can make some “logical” connections that are very personal.
This guy seems to have latched on to the bible and numerology.
If you talk long enough with schizophrenia sufferers you can start to get how their logic works.
For example, in this case, he may have attached religious meaning to specific digits or number combinations. (like 777 or 666, for instance.) So, when he starts adding up math from the bible, key numbers will inevitably pop up and have great meaning to him and seem like messages from God.
It’s just John pointing to religious nutballs in the final analysis. I’ve given up on religion for the most part myself. It’s like politics, except all the top leaders are dead instead of just dead stupid. It has entertainment value and that is what John showed by publishing it here on his blog. When John writes can a reader enlighten me, he’s calling out for help. It’s the Dvorak Code and very well done. You’ll need an ever popular Dvorak keyboard to solve the Dvorak Code. Dvorak is the greatest showman in blogging today.
Well, at first glance I can tell you someone is using Gematria trying to discover the “codes” hidden in the “Book of Revelations” from the bible.
Basically Gemotria is a kind of numerology that builds associations between words that have the same numarical value. In Hebrew, the language and numbers share a common symbol, there are no seperate letters and numbers. That said, each word in Hebrew is also a number.
Maybe the person has seen “Pi” too many times, but there are problems other than some group drilling this kind of math into/out of the brains of students. The biggest problem is “the game of telephone” affect. Transcription and translation differences alter the outcomes implicitly.
To our day-to-day world this stuff will always seem like mumbo jumbo, which is why Rabis(teachers) caution students who wish to study Kabbalah to wait until later in life, (their 40s or 50s.) Building associations we know can be risky.
Pot leads to heroin.
Rock and roll leads to drugs and sex.
Lack of family structure leads to gang proliferation.
Occult study leads to Devil worship.
Electoral college leads to corrupt political parties.
Thinking of Israel as a litteral (land based) place has lead to most of the conflicts we see in the mideast since the formation of the Nation State.
We can be wrong for all the right reasons sometimes.
In the words of Doctor Frankensteen… “The non-sensical ravings of a lunatic mind”
(From “Young Frankenstein”)
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