Comments on: The lure of the FemBot http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:43:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: GregA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-276005 GregA Sat, 02 Sep 2006 06:41:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-276005 And here all these years I thought nerds couldn't get the girls because they were shy... As it turns out all that porn has twisted their minds and they prefer cyber sex.... And here all these years I thought nerds couldn’t get the girls because they were shy…

As it turns out all that porn has twisted their minds and they prefer cyber sex….

]]> By: Smartalix http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-275551 Smartalix Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:28:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-275551 Cyborg babes are the best of both worlds. Cyborg babes are the best of both worlds.

]]> By: OmarTheAlien http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-275482 OmarTheAlien Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:48:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-275482 I liked the cool chick robots in "Battlestar Galactica". I wonder, are they for sale? Is financing available? Or is there a warehouse full of deactivated babes somewhere in California? And, could I tell the difference? And, do I really care if I could tell the difference? And, oh yeah, lets not forget the rather uppity chick robot in "Spacehunter: The Forbidden Zone". She was awesome, until some asshole off a garbage heap burned her. I liked the cool chick robots in “Battlestar Galactica”. I wonder, are they for sale? Is financing available? Or is there a warehouse full of deactivated babes somewhere in California? And, could I tell the difference? And, do I really care if I could tell the difference?
And, oh yeah, lets not forget the rather uppity chick robot in “Spacehunter: The Forbidden Zone”. She was awesome, until some asshole off a garbage heap burned her.

]]> By: Hedley http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-275242 Hedley Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:45:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-275242 Obligatory Futurama quote: Fembot: Why? Why? I came here from a faraway planet ruled by a chavinistic Manputer that was really a Manbot. Have you any idea how it feels to be a Fembot living in a Manbot's Manputer's world? Obligatory Futurama quote:

Fembot: Why? Why? I came here from a faraway planet ruled by a chavinistic Manputer that was really a Manbot. Have you any idea how it feels to be a Fembot living in a Manbot’s Manputer’s world?

]]> By: Mike Cannali http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-274896 Mike Cannali Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:54:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-274896 there was a twilight zone episode on fembots - antone remember it? there was a twilight zone episode on fembots – antone remember it?

]]> By: OhForTheLoveOf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-274842 OhForTheLoveOf Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:01:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-274842 #3<i>Woman as servant, woman as monster it’s two sides of the same misogynistic coin. Comment by Olivia O — 8/31/2006 @ 5:54 pm</i> There really is no reason to level a charge of misogeny. It isn't like fembots don't have a huge female fanbase. They are cool. And asthetically, generally, females are more desirable than male forms. But there is a certain element who sees women as you seem to think they do... but I think that usually it isn't so much mysongeny as plain old run of the mill misanthropy. Let's face it, there are men who hate women and women who hate men and whites who hate blacks and asians who hate... it just goes on... but at the heart of all these people, no matter who they activelt hate, they passively hate just about everyone else and themselves too... #3Woman as servant, woman as monster it’s two sides of the same misogynistic coin.

Comment by Olivia O — 8/31/2006 @ 5:54 pm

There really is no reason to level a charge of misogeny.

It isn’t like fembots don’t have a huge female fanbase. They are cool. And asthetically, generally, females are more desirable than male forms. But there is a certain element who sees women as you seem to think they do… but I think that usually it isn’t so much mysongeny as plain old run of the mill misanthropy.

Let’s face it, there are men who hate women and women who hate men and whites who hate blacks and asians who hate… it just goes on… but at the heart of all these people, no matter who they activelt hate, they passively hate just about everyone else and themselves too…

]]> By: Smartalix http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-274778 Smartalix Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:50:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-274778 I think androids will eventually adopt stylized features to avoid the revulsion complex. A hot chick that looks like a comic-book drawing would be sexy but obviously not human. I think androids will eventually adopt stylized features to avoid the revulsion complex. A hot chick that looks like a comic-book drawing would be sexy but obviously not human.

]]> By: nilidsid http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-274722 nilidsid Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:06:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-274722 And, another link: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/84542561@N00/69682768/" rel="nofollow">reception bot</a> I find the microphone boom to be funny. And, another link:

reception bot

I find the microphone boom to be funny.

]]> By: nilidsid http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-274718 nilidsid Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:03:29 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-274718 And so, it appears that my revulsion is well documented. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_Valley" rel="nofollow">Uncanny Valley</a> <blockquote cite="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_Valley">The Uncanny Valley is an unproven hypothesis of robotics concerning the emotional response of humans to robots and other non-human entities. It was introduced by Japanese roboticist Masahiro Mori in 1970. It states that as a robot is made more humanlike in its appearance and motion, the emotional response from a human being to the robot will become increasingly positive and empathic, until a point is reached beyond which the response quickly becomes strongly repulsive. However, as the appearance and motion continue to become less distinguishable from a human being's, the emotional response becomes positive once more and approaches human-human empathy levels.</blockquote> And so, it appears that my revulsion is well documented.

Uncanny Valley

The Uncanny Valley is an unproven hypothesis of robotics concerning the emotional response of humans to robots and other non-human entities. It was introduced by Japanese roboticist Masahiro Mori in 1970. It states that as a robot is made more humanlike in its appearance and motion, the emotional response from a human being to the robot will become increasingly positive and empathic, until a point is reached beyond which the response quickly becomes strongly repulsive. However, as the appearance and motion continue to become less distinguishable from a human being’s, the emotional response becomes positive once more and approaches human-human empathy levels.

]]> By: nilidsid http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-274702 nilidsid Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:45:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-274702 Conceiving of a thing and making it real are two different things. I've generally found that the actresses who play robots successfully present attractive and alluring robots. And, I <em>enjoyed</em> that. But the recent <a href="http://www.livescience.com/technology/050628_real_robot.html" rel="nofollow">Japanese robot</a>--which is real--took me by surprise. They did a very good job of making her look very human. They did a very good job of giving her a fairly sweet demeanor. I found myself attracted too her. I then realized that I was attracted to plastic, and I was instantly creeped out. I like real women with real and complete personalities. I don’t like plastic women. In fact, there are plenty of popular actresses that are much too plastic for me. (I’m reminded of <a href="”http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092746/”" rel="nofollow">Cherry 2000</a>.) I’m not sure I’m ready for real female robots. The idea gives me the willies. (And, I don’t mean that it makes my willy happy.) What will really happen to society and culture when faced with plastic people? Conceiving of a thing and making it real are two different things.

I’ve generally found that the actresses who play robots successfully present attractive and alluring robots. And, I enjoyed that.

But the recent Japanese robot–which is real–took me by surprise.

They did a very good job of making her look very human.
They did a very good job of giving her a fairly sweet demeanor.

I found myself attracted too her.

I then realized that I was attracted to plastic, and I was instantly creeped out.

I like real women with real and complete personalities.
I don’t like plastic women. In fact, there are plenty of popular actresses that are much too plastic for me.

(I’m reminded of Cherry 2000.)

I’m not sure I’m ready for real female robots. The idea gives me the willies. (And, I don’t mean that it makes my willy happy.)

What will really happen to society and culture when faced with plastic people?

]]> By: bac http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-274655 bac Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:46:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-274655 Doesn't everyone want a Cherry 2000? Do not know about Cherry 2000s? Watch the movie Cheery 2000. Doesn’t everyone want a Cherry 2000? Do not know about Cherry 2000s? Watch the movie Cheery 2000.

]]> By: Don http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-274641 Don Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:30:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-274641 "because feelings of attraction to them could leave their victims vulnerable to attack." Wow. Just like real relationships. Well, some anyway. BTW, another poster named Don has appeared on this blog. You could recognize me because I'm the better looking one, but to avoid confusion, I'll henceforth become the Poster Formerly Know As Don, or Pfkad. “because feelings of attraction to them could leave their victims vulnerable to attack.” Wow. Just like real relationships. Well, some anyway. BTW, another poster named Don has appeared on this blog. You could recognize me because I’m the better looking one, but to avoid confusion, I’ll henceforth become the Poster Formerly Know As Don, or Pfkad.

]]> By: Bill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-273876 Bill Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:52:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-273876 What about that babe in T3? Bad news! or as Mr. Arnold would say, " I have the perfect spot for you in my next Terminator movie!" get a dog instead... What about that babe in T3?
Bad news! or as Mr. Arnold would say, ” I have the perfect spot for you in my next Terminator movie!”
get a dog instead…

]]> By: Jamers http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-273844 Jamers Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:40:09 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-273844 This is very old in literature - Tristan, of Tristan and Isolde, built a simulacrum. Stepford Wives, Blade Runner, Harry Mudd, etc. Not to mention RealDolls. I don't think it's so much of a point of wanting something you can control as finding somebody who won't nag. I am pretty sure that women dream of a mascbot who likes to do dishes as well. This is very old in literature – Tristan, of Tristan and Isolde, built a simulacrum. Stepford Wives, Blade Runner, Harry Mudd, etc. Not to mention RealDolls.

I don’t think it’s so much of a point of wanting something you can control as finding somebody who won’t nag. I am pretty sure that women dream of a mascbot who likes to do dishes as well.

]]> By: Angel H. Wong http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/08/31/the-lure-of-the-fembot/comment-page-1/#comment-273808 Angel H. Wong Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:30:29 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=6866#comment-273808 I want a bearmanbot! One with a heavy duty hydraulic pump would be nice ;) I want a bearmanbot! One with a heavy duty hydraulic pump would be nice ;)

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