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	<title>Comments on: Republican Slogan For Success In Fall Elections: &#8216;Save Yourself, Blame Bush&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Elections are won with ideas, not messages of hate.

Haw,  Coming from a member of the party of choice for hatemongers, one would think you&#039;d prefer to keep that under the carpet....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Elections are won with ideas, not messages of hate.</p>
<p>Haw,  Coming from a member of the party of choice for hatemongers, one would think you&#8217;d prefer to keep that under the carpet&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: OhForTheLoveOf</title>
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		<dc:creator>OhForTheLoveOf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24&lt;i&gt; - Yes, but I bet they could tell you who got voted off survivor last night.

Comment by gquaglia — 9/18/2006 @ 12:39 pm &lt;/i&gt;

Is that show still on? I can&#039;t even tell you what network its on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24<i> &#8211; Yes, but I bet they could tell you who got voted off survivor last night.</p>
<p>Comment by gquaglia — 9/18/2006 @ 12:39 pm </i></p>
<p>Is that show still on? I can&#8217;t even tell you what network its on.</p>
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		<title>By: Sounds The Alarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sounds The Alarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AB CD

Why &lt;b&gt;DO&lt;/b&gt; you hate america so much?</description>
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<p>Why <b>DO</b> you hate america so much?</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We could say that most voters are stupid (can’t find own state) or don’t care or whatever else&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, but I bet they could tell you who got voted off survivor last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We could say that most voters are stupid (can’t find own state) or don’t care or whatever else</i></p>
<p>Yes, but I bet they could tell you who got voted off survivor last night.</p>
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		<title>By: OhForTheLoveOf</title>
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		<dc:creator>OhForTheLoveOf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21&lt;i&gt; -  I guess thats to be expected from people who can’t name their own Senators or find their own states on a map.

Comment by joshua — 9/17/2006 @ 10:00 pm &lt;/i&gt;

Not to pick on you personally Joshua, but you comment helps illustrate my point. It isn&#039;t terribly surprising that we don&#039;t have a better public dialog or that the electorate is widely disengaged.

We could say that most voters are stupid (can&#039;t find own state) or don&#039;t care or whatever else... But maybe this disengagement could be attributed to the widely held belief that American voters are deserving of public scorn and ridicule. Who wants to stay and play in a sandbox full of bullies with inflated egos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21<i> &#8211;  I guess thats to be expected from people who can’t name their own Senators or find their own states on a map.</p>
<p>Comment by joshua — 9/17/2006 @ 10:00 pm </i></p>
<p>Not to pick on you personally Joshua, but you comment helps illustrate my point. It isn&#8217;t terribly surprising that we don&#8217;t have a better public dialog or that the electorate is widely disengaged.</p>
<p>We could say that most voters are stupid (can&#8217;t find own state) or don&#8217;t care or whatever else&#8230; But maybe this disengagement could be attributed to the widely held belief that American voters are deserving of public scorn and ridicule. Who wants to stay and play in a sandbox full of bullies with inflated egos?</p>
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		<title>By: AB CD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AB CD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daryl thanks for the numbers.  I added up the different deficits in sdf&#039;s chart, and it simply doesn&#039;t match with the numbers you gave, so they are using different definitions of debt.  For example, Clinton&#039;s total is closer to 500 billion than 1.5 trillion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl thanks for the numbers.  I added up the different deficits in sdf&#8217;s chart, and it simply doesn&#8217;t match with the numbers you gave, so they are using different definitions of debt.  For example, Clinton&#8217;s total is closer to 500 billion than 1.5 trillion.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 06:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see a true Independent Party.....but it can&#039;t just be anti-Republican or Democrat.  It has to have ideas and a way to make them work that sets it apart from the other 2.
I&#039;ve never been a fan of the *mushy middle*.....but both radical left and radical right should be jettisoned, in favor of a more middle approach to problems, especially domestic problems.
The biggest problem with this is that far to many Americans think the 2 party system is enshrined in the Constitution.  I guess thats to be expected from people who can&#039;t name their own Senators or find their own states on a map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see a true Independent Party&#8230;..but it can&#8217;t just be anti-Republican or Democrat.  It has to have ideas and a way to make them work that sets it apart from the other 2.<br />
I&#8217;ve never been a fan of the *mushy middle*&#8230;..but both radical left and radical right should be jettisoned, in favor of a more middle approach to problems, especially domestic problems.<br />
The biggest problem with this is that far to many Americans think the 2 party system is enshrined in the Constitution.  I guess thats to be expected from people who can&#8217;t name their own Senators or find their own states on a map.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20.  Yes.  For all the blather about the Democrats lacking ideas - where are the Republicans&#039; ideas?  Rail against big government, then help yourself to the pork.  Wage a unilateral foreign policy, until it turns into a fiasco.  

&quot;Stay the course&quot; in Iraq is another brilliant idea.  &quot;We stand down as they stand up&quot; works brilliantly, now that they have made it a state secret how many Iraqis are actually standing up on their own.  &quot;If we leave Iraq, they will follow us here&quot; and &quot;victory in the war on terror depends upon winning the battle for Baghdad&quot; are both non-sequitors, since the terrorist attacks in Madrid and London, and the supposed plot against the airlines, were not stopped by the presence of troops in Baghdad.  

The only real Republican idea is the one they keep reiterating - anyone who opposes them is a traitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20.  Yes.  For all the blather about the Democrats lacking ideas &#8211; where are the Republicans&#8217; ideas?  Rail against big government, then help yourself to the pork.  Wage a unilateral foreign policy, until it turns into a fiasco.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Stay the course&#8221; in Iraq is another brilliant idea.  &#8220;We stand down as they stand up&#8221; works brilliantly, now that they have made it a state secret how many Iraqis are actually standing up on their own.  &#8220;If we leave Iraq, they will follow us here&#8221; and &#8220;victory in the war on terror depends upon winning the battle for Baghdad&#8221; are both non-sequitors, since the terrorist attacks in Madrid and London, and the supposed plot against the airlines, were not stopped by the presence of troops in Baghdad.  </p>
<p>The only real Republican idea is the one they keep reiterating &#8211; anyone who opposes them is a traitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. H. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. H. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Elections are won with ideas, not messages of hate. If there is anything that the Democrats have demonstrated over the last six years, it’s that they hope to hide their total absence of ideas with hyperbole and hate. &lt;/i&gt;

The Republicans have stole three elections in a row by election fraud AND slandering their opponents. They have frightened the voters with campaigns of fear. They have had no ideas on the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Elections are won with ideas, not messages of hate. If there is anything that the Democrats have demonstrated over the last six years, it’s that they hope to hide their total absence of ideas with hyperbole and hate. </i></p>
<p>The Republicans have stole three elections in a row by election fraud AND slandering their opponents. They have frightened the voters with campaigns of fear. They have had no ideas on the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you wanna blame someone for electing Bush, there&#039;s no one to blame but themselves. After all, Bush DID win the reelection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you wanna blame someone for electing Bush, there&#8217;s no one to blame but themselves. After all, Bush DID win the reelection.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the People hate Bush and the Republicans.  Only problem is, the hate the Democrats more.

The People are unhappy with the way the war is going.  Unfortunately for the Democrats, they are also smart enough to realize what would happen if we simply &quot;declare victory and leave.&quot;  (Gee, exactly who won that last war between Israel and Hezbollah?)

Elections are won with ideas, not messages of hate.  If there is anything that the Democrats have demonstrated over the last six years, it&#039;s that they hope to hide their total absence of ideas with hyperbole and hate.

Republicans will win by default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the People hate Bush and the Republicans.  Only problem is, the hate the Democrats more.</p>
<p>The People are unhappy with the way the war is going.  Unfortunately for the Democrats, they are also smart enough to realize what would happen if we simply &#8220;declare victory and leave.&#8221;  (Gee, exactly who won that last war between Israel and Hezbollah?)</p>
<p>Elections are won with ideas, not messages of hate.  If there is anything that the Democrats have demonstrated over the last six years, it&#8217;s that they hope to hide their total absence of ideas with hyperbole and hate.</p>
<p>Republicans will win by default.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummmmmmmmm....I lost a whole sentance somewhere:)
My last post should have started out as such:  All summer long it looked like a loss of 3 Senate seats and 12 to 16 House seats for the Republicans..........

Sorry folks.

I want to add.....most people who vote, always hate Congress as a whole and hate the party in control, this year that was also happening with several congressional districts where the voters even disliked their own Congressman.  But that was another big change in 3 new polls this past 10 days.  People still hate congress as a whole and the Republicans, but are back to liking their own congressman......thats a formula for a not so big change in party control in Nov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummmmmmmmm&#8230;.I lost a whole sentance somewhere:)<br />
My last post should have started out as such:  All summer long it looked like a loss of 3 Senate seats and 12 to 16 House seats for the Republicans&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Sorry folks.</p>
<p>I want to add&#8230;..most people who vote, always hate Congress as a whole and hate the party in control, this year that was also happening with several congressional districts where the voters even disliked their own Congressman.  But that was another big change in 3 new polls this past 10 days.  People still hate congress as a whole and the Republicans, but are back to liking their own congressman&#8230;&#8230;thats a formula for a not so big change in party control in Nov.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 ......has hit it right on the head.  All spring and summer it looked like a loss of 3 Senate seats.  But in the last 2 weeks things are changing.  Some of the almost for sure losers on the GOP side have moved back into contention(even Satorium has gone from 14% under Casy to barely 5% now).  The experts are starting to move solid Democrat races into the leans democrat or toss up column.  If this trend continues, the GOP could stay even in the Senate and only lose 9 seats tops in the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 &#8230;&#8230;has hit it right on the head.  All spring and summer it looked like a loss of 3 Senate seats.  But in the last 2 weeks things are changing.  Some of the almost for sure losers on the GOP side have moved back into contention(even Satorium has gone from 14% under Casy to barely 5% now).  The experts are starting to move solid Democrat races into the leans democrat or toss up column.  If this trend continues, the GOP could stay even in the Senate and only lose 9 seats tops in the House.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Kulak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl Kulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention - sdh&#039;s chart is of the National Deficit - not the Debt.

The deficit is the amount that the government lets its outgoing money (social programs, military, etc.) exceed its incoming money (taxes) in a particular year.

The debt is the total accumulation of money owed at a given point in time.

You could look at it as the deficit is the amount that we are &quot;living beyond our means&quot; each year and the debt is the big mountain of money that results from living beyond our means each year.

That probably confuses things further...oh well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention &#8211; sdh&#8217;s chart is of the National Deficit &#8211; not the Debt.</p>
<p>The deficit is the amount that the government lets its outgoing money (social programs, military, etc.) exceed its incoming money (taxes) in a particular year.</p>
<p>The debt is the total accumulation of money owed at a given point in time.</p>
<p>You could look at it as the deficit is the amount that we are &#8220;living beyond our means&#8221; each year and the debt is the big mountain of money that results from living beyond our means each year.</p>
<p>That probably confuses things further&#8230;oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl Kulak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl Kulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Can someone explain how George Bush doubled the national debt?&lt;/i&gt;

I looked at the Website of the Bureau of Public Debt (www.publicdebt.treas.gov) and they state the following:

The current debt total is 8,529,989,973,197.61, as of September 13, 2006.  Let&#039;s round it down to $8.5 trillion.

On 9/28/2000 (under Clinton) the debt was 5,674,178,209,886.86 ($5.6T).

So Bush added $2.9T to the total since he&#039;s arrived.  If Bush continues to add to the debt at this rate, his total increase will be $3.8T for the eight years in office, a 67% increase.   Not &quot;doubling the debt,&quot; but still a major increase.

Clinton went from $4B to $5.6B, so he added $1.6B in eight years, a 40% increase, also a huge increase.

It seems like they&#039;re all guilty of increasing the national debt.  If I had faith that a particular politician or party had the will to a) decrease the national debt to zero and b) protect the environment properly -- that would be the person I would vote for.  Unfortunately, I have not heard from that person or party yet.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Can someone explain how George Bush doubled the national debt?</i></p>
<p>I looked at the Website of the Bureau of Public Debt (www.publicdebt.treas.gov) and they state the following:</p>
<p>The current debt total is 8,529,989,973,197.61, as of September 13, 2006.  Let&#8217;s round it down to $8.5 trillion.</p>
<p>On 9/28/2000 (under Clinton) the debt was 5,674,178,209,886.86 ($5.6T).</p>
<p>So Bush added $2.9T to the total since he&#8217;s arrived.  If Bush continues to add to the debt at this rate, his total increase will be $3.8T for the eight years in office, a 67% increase.   Not &#8220;doubling the debt,&#8221; but still a major increase.</p>
<p>Clinton went from $4B to $5.6B, so he added $1.6B in eight years, a 40% increase, also a huge increase.</p>
<p>It seems like they&#8217;re all guilty of increasing the national debt.  If I had faith that a particular politician or party had the will to a) decrease the national debt to zero and b) protect the environment properly &#8212; that would be the person I would vote for.  Unfortunately, I have not heard from that person or party yet.</p>
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