Comments on: Australia refuses to sign the Kyoto treaty http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JohnHenriAllyn http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-351565 JohnHenriAllyn Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:12:00 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-351565 http://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermail/compost/2001-March/008075.html Read em and Weep #15 http://mailman.cloudnet.com/pipermail/compost/2001-March/008075.html

Read em and Weep #15

]]> By: AB CD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-351503 AB CD Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:24:45 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-351503 >that was one of his campaign promises that year. No it wasn't. He specifically said the opposite, that he wouldn't support Kyoto if China and India weren't involved. This was in one of the debates, and even Al Gore wouldn't defend the treaty then. >that was one of his campaign promises that year.

No it wasn’t. He specifically said the opposite, that he wouldn’t support Kyoto if China and India weren’t involved. This was in one of the debates, and even Al Gore wouldn’t defend the treaty then.

]]> By: JohnHenriAllyn http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-351453 JohnHenriAllyn Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:24:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-351453 #4 the bashing was well deserved as that was one of his campaign promises that year. When he got into power and did the math seeing how much it would hurt big business he took it back. Thats one of the very few times I'll agree with the environmentalists, if you commit to something if we give you power you should stick by your promise. #4 the bashing was well deserved as that was one of his campaign promises that year.

When he got into power and did the math seeing how much it would hurt big business he took it back.

Thats one of the very few times I’ll agree with the environmentalists, if you commit to something if we give you power you should stick by your promise.

]]> By: Smith http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-350974 Smith Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:58:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-350974 And the reason Clinton never submitted the treaty to the Senate for ratification is because it didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of passing (nor did he want it to pass). It really doesn't matter if a Democrat is in the White House or which party controls the Senate, ratifying the Kyoto treaty would be political suicide for whichever party was in power at the time. The Democrats like to use this issue to thump Bush about the head, but should they take the Senate, you won't see Reid demanding the treaty be submitted for ratification. For starters, Reid would have to abandon Nevada and allow nuclear waste to be stored at Yucca Mountain. And the reason Clinton never submitted the treaty to the Senate for ratification is because it didn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of passing (nor did he want it to pass). It really doesn’t matter if a Democrat is in the White House or which party controls the Senate, ratifying the Kyoto treaty would be political suicide for whichever party was in power at the time.

The Democrats like to use this issue to thump Bush about the head, but should they take the Senate, you won’t see Reid demanding the treaty be submitted for ratification. For starters, Reid would have to abandon Nevada and allow nuclear waste to be stored at Yucca Mountain.

]]> By: Rich http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-350341 Rich Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:36:42 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-350341 Sounds like Macfarlane has remarkable common sense. Sounds like Macfarlane has remarkable common sense.

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-350300 Jägermeister Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:04:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-350300 <a href="http://www.nef.org.uk/energyadvice/co2emissionsctry.htm" rel="nofollow">USA and Australia</a>... number one and number two... USA and Australia… number one and number two…

]]> By: 888 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-350113 888 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:04:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-350113 Finally there is some smart western government looking after the interest of their own nation first :) Finally there is some smart western government looking after the interest of their own nation first :)

]]> By: OhForTheLoveOf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-350098 OhForTheLoveOf Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:57:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-350098 Clinton did not sign the treaty "on the way out the door" and Bush dis not withdraw the signature. Al Gore "symbolically" signed the treaty, but niether Clinton nor Bush submitted the treay to Congress for ratifacation. I am not certain why Clinton never signed or submitted, not do I particularly care to be totally honest. Bush will not submit the treaty to Congress because China and India are exempted from the provisions, and from the "will wonders never cease" department, he's right. Kyoto or not... A nation is a leader in the world by setting the right example. The United States should be leading the world in environmental managment and conseravtion and preservation. We are not, and we set a miserable example. We don't need this treaty to take care of our own house, but for the treaty to be effective it needs to include China and India. Then Bush can invent another reason not to sign it. Clinton did not sign the treaty “on the way out the door” and Bush dis not withdraw the signature. Al Gore “symbolically” signed the treaty, but niether Clinton nor Bush submitted the treay to Congress for ratifacation.

I am not certain why Clinton never signed or submitted, not do I particularly care to be totally honest. Bush will not submit the treaty to Congress because China and India are exempted from the provisions, and from the “will wonders never cease” department, he’s right.

Kyoto or not… A nation is a leader in the world by setting the right example. The United States should be leading the world in environmental managment and conseravtion and preservation. We are not, and we set a miserable example. We don’t need this treaty to take care of our own house, but for the treaty to be effective it needs to include China and India. Then Bush can invent another reason not to sign it.

]]> By: WokTiny http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-350016 WokTiny Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:14:03 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-350016 eh... when the leaders lead the followers will follow eh… when the leaders lead the followers will follow

]]> By: MG http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-349982 MG Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:28:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-349982 I truly feel shame for my country sometimes. A big reason for this is so that the US doesn't get all the bad press for not signing. Little Johnie Howard sucking up to Bush again!! All for an FTA! I truly feel shame for my country sometimes. A big reason for this is so that the US doesn’t get all the bad press for not signing. Little Johnie Howard sucking up to Bush again!! All for an FTA!

]]> By: tallwookie http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-349977 tallwookie Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:24:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-349977 lol sorry for spam there lol sorry for spam there

]]> By: AB CD http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-349954 AB CD Tue, 31 Oct 2006 21:07:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-349954 No no Clinton signed the treaty on his way out the door. Bush then withdrew the signature. All the bashing was over the withdrawal, or for not following along. Somehow these people think countries should follow treaties that they haven't signed too. No no Clinton signed the treaty on his way out the door. Bush then withdrew the signature. All the bashing was over the withdrawal, or for not following along. Somehow these people think countries should follow treaties that they haven’t signed too.

]]> By: Michael P. O'Connor http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-349933 Michael P. O'Connor Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:46:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-349933 I thought Bush was evil for not signing this? Was it not during Clintons time too. I remember see many articals before bashing Bush for not signing this, and now I see this as a good story? hum I thought Bush was evil for not signing this? Was it not during Clintons time too.

I remember see many articals before bashing Bush for not signing this, and now I see this as a good story? hum

]]> By: tallwookie http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-349906 tallwookie Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:10:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-349906 "good for them" - detected as spam try it again - "youve already said that" John, yer blog is brizoken “good for them” – detected as spam
try it again – “youve already said that”

John, yer blog is brizoken

]]> By: tallwookie http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/10/31/australia-refuses-to-sign-the-kyoto-treaty/comment-page-1/#comment-349905 tallwookie Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:09:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=7812#comment-349905 good for them good for them

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