Comments on: Government wastes money by extending “Abstinence-only” sex education to adults

By: Lee

Lee — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:15:12 +0000

You notice how we have one group on here that consistently addresses the others points, with reason, logic, and historical example, and another group that answers with talking points and “faith based” (i.e. infallible and fact free) answers, all while ignoring the points of their opposition. In other words, we have one group who is trying to debate, and thus get at the truth, and another group that is so confident of their rectitude that they just bloviate. Let us remember the words of Kung-Tzu: Only the most wise and the most foolish do not change. I assure you, none of us are the most wise, unless you claim to be Christ rather than merely someone who is putting words in His mouth.

By: ECA

ECA — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 00:04:59 +0000

the point of the gift..
IS dont hide things from kids or others…
If they got a question ANswer it…
If they want to know something Explain it.

When you keep things a mistory, Mankind has a tendancy to WANT TO OPEN it, find out WHY they cant see it, do it, or anything.

By: WokTiny

WokTiny — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:25:53 +0000

#29 If we were all naked, we could solve ALOT of the crime.

I’m not sure you understand the full implications of this statement. You seem to only view this as applying to the body, but it is so much more true when you go deeper. If everyone was fully exposed in spirit, that is, their ambitions and fears, desires and wounds, then there would be more healing and less hurting.

As far as the physical aspect of your statements, and as they apply to your KID/gift analogy, I just don’t remember you arguing on the australian muslim teacher’s side… KID/gift;cat/meat;rapist/woman… what were you really saying there?. I must have missed that post, or just misunderstood where you were going with the KID/gif analogy.

By: ECA

ECA — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:54:45 +0000

26,
yep…
Unless you wish to go back to the 1800′s…
And look at the Problems thay had..
Rape, Incest, child molestation, would rise…

You would condem those that Had sex outside of marrage… the scarlet Letter, the Kensey report, and so on.

As one person said long ago.
If we were all naked, we could solve ALOT of the crime.

After you have seen it all, you get BORD of it. If its out there Everyday, you arent so enjoyous of it.
Many Old world army’s had there Camp followers. They found that if you took away the Sex, you had a MEAN group of men, that Raped and pillaged, and ran off, just to get sex. If you have it Available, the Men were more controlable.

Sexual tenion can cause MANY to do things that wouldnt if the same was available…

By: RBG

RBG — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:33:04 +0000

20. People have to suppress and repress their sexual desires and a lot of other all-consuming desires all the time. That’s part of being a responsible adult where delayed gratification is a primary feature. (eg: saving for retirement.)

And at some point, responsible, rational adults are going to have to look at sex for what it is: a mechanism for initiating new life – and less about a good time, propaganda that is rampant in our society. There’s your birth control.

If you are right then you should run for NRA president and push for more guns in our society so guys can more easily let off their pent up frustrations on the range.

Women are rightfully fearful of men constantly surrounding themselves with sex. I recall an Andrew Dice Clay “performance” where the female employees stated they were fearful for their safety after it. I’m sure they were worried a lot more about the kind of men leaving that auditorium than the kind of men leaving a church.

RBG

By: Lee

Lee — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:30:48 +0000

I tend to think that anyone who is unable to understand the blazingly obvious lessons of history, (i.e. prohibition of any desirable thing leads to nothing besides irresponsible and violent behavior) are the very definition of fools. God gave you discernment and understanding so that you could use them, not cover them in Earth out of fear, and I won’t hesitate to call anyone who discards the gifts of God out of blind obedience to some man or group of men exactly what they are.

By: WokTiny

WokTiny — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:47:45 +0000

#19 IF you hide it, you have some KID tearing things apart trying to FIND IT.

so you’re saying it is not the kid’s fault?

that sounds a whole lot like the cat/meat analogy we heard about last week.

you really want to go there?

By: WokTiny

WokTiny — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:21:28 +0000

#11 This is not about christianity
Christianity preaches sex, after marriage, and its very good!

#17 watch who you call a fool.
‘responsible’ sex still leads to these things. “but I loved him” or a condom doesn’t keep the girl from getting pregnant (not 100% reliable) or a VD (not at all reliable)

#21 some already say its evil.

#20 the answer is really to have everyone married at 14

By: William K. Wolfrum

William K. Wolfrum — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:06:27 +0000

20. That’s total, complete, BS!

–Mark Foley

By: Lauren the Ghoti

Lauren the Ghoti — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:29:28 +0000

If someone had told George and Bar about abstinence, maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess.

By: ECA

ECA — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:09:47 +0000

Dogs are doing WHAT in the yard???

Little girl to daddy:
Daddy, what is our dog doing to the neibhors??
Daddy:
AWww, Ummmm, ???????????????????

By: the dude

the dude — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 05:26:29 +0000

Whats next, trying to ban masturbation?

By: Smartalix

Smartalix — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 05:19:28 +0000

When you supress a natural function with a powerful instinctive drive like sx, it will manifest itself in unhealthy ways. Perversion comes from repression.

By: ECA

ECA — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:09:02 +0000

Its interesting…
That if you become OPEN about Sex, then many take precautions, and Parents even understand BETTER.
But, if you condem it, and Rape happens, or a Slight of hand, the parents are astounded.

This is like Xmas…
If you hide things in plain site, then Its hard to find.
IF you hide it, you have some KID tearing things apart trying to FIND IT.

By: Jammer

Jammer — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:37:14 +0000

I find it amusing that people’s answers to things like AIDS is to wear ribbons (and RED things) and spend millions of dollars of government (my) money to try and find a cure, yet the rather sensible idea of educating people about the benefits of abstinence outside marriage (which would wipe out STDs within a generation) is laughed at and ridiculed. I managed to wait until marriage to have sex (yes, I had ample opportunity before-hand), and have been faithful to my wife. And I assure you I have a very active sex drive, and enjoy it very much.

Oh, 0113addiv: Most christians I know are far from miserable, quite the opposite in fact.

Also, christians don’t hate sex (quite the opposite in fact.. hehe), they just understand the context in which it is appropriate.