Comments on: UPDATED: More Student Tasering — Zapped For Not Removing His Hat http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:46:20 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Laziee http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-711436 Laziee Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:06:25 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-711436 #32 an #33 that's wut is called racial profileing, cuz he wans to dress in a style extremely prevalent among Black Males, he's a criminal? Im blak an I dress similar so I am automatically resisting arrest? It's shit like that, which results in kids goin to jail fa racial profileing. I mean my lil bro cant walk down the street without gettin stopped by the police just cuz he's 13, black, an his pants hang slightly lowa den most peoples. #32 an #33 that’s wut is called racial profileing, cuz he wans to dress in a style extremely prevalent among Black Males, he’s a criminal? Im blak an I dress similar so I am automatically resisting arrest? It’s shit like that, which results in kids goin to jail fa racial profileing. I mean my lil bro cant walk down the street without gettin stopped by the police just cuz he’s 13, black, an his pants hang slightly lowa den most peoples.

]]> By: Gregg http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-375180 Gregg Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:26:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-375180 Look at that guy. Do you REALLY believe he was cooperating with the authorities? Do you really believe he left the meeting without causing a disturbance? Do you think that when the cops went to remove him from the meeting that he went quietly, or do you think he fought the cops? I think he did, and got tasered for it. If you disobey a cops orders, you take your chances. If this guy didn't agree with the rules, he should have left and came back later with a formal protest to present to the council, and ask for a rule change. Look at that guy. Do you REALLY believe he was cooperating with the authorities? Do you really believe he left the meeting without causing a disturbance? Do you think that when the cops went to remove him from the meeting that he went quietly, or do you think he fought the cops?

I think he did, and got tasered for it.

If you disobey a cops orders, you take your chances. If this guy didn’t agree with the rules, he should have left and came back later with a formal protest to present to the council, and ask for a rule change.

]]> By: Mucous http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-375095 Mucous Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:53:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-375095 IF the picture is the guy, he should be tazered just for looking like a Gansta. That's reason enough. IF the picture is the guy, he should be tazered just for looking like a Gansta. That’s reason enough.

]]> By: SN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374916 SN Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:38:59 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374916 #23. <a href="http://www.newlin-deschler.com/Videos/taserarrest.qt" rel="nofollow">This</a> is the video you're talking about. #23. This is the video you’re talking about.

]]> By: RBG http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374574 RBG Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:40:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374574 24. The guy is right. It starts with the hats. Then it's, what? no shirt. No pants. Then hordes of nudists - all with their disgusting naughty bits dangling about. But that's not the end, no. Then they'll all want to take baths at council meetings. And have sex with little farm animals. Little farm animals, for Godsake. Get in here, Noname. And that will lead to communism, mark my words. Communism and fornication by evil Clinton clones. And then catastrophic global Internet wars. Ah, but the strawberries! That's… that's where I had them. They laughed and made jokes, but I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, and with geometric logic, that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist. RBG Apologies to The Caine Mutiny. 24.

The guy is right. It starts with the hats. Then it’s, what? no shirt. No pants. Then hordes of nudists – all with their disgusting naughty bits dangling about. But that’s not the end, no. Then they’ll all want to take baths at council meetings. And have sex with little farm animals. Little farm animals, for Godsake. Get in here, Noname. And that will lead to communism, mark my words. Communism and fornication by evil Clinton clones. And then catastrophic global Internet wars. Ah, but the strawberries! That’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed and made jokes, but I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, and with geometric logic, that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist.

RBG
Apologies to The Caine Mutiny.

]]> By: noname http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374375 noname Tue, 21 Nov 2006 03:19:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374375 I would like to tazer all the neo-con evil ass holes in this forum for defending this obscene use of force. Why not, it's using their own insane sense of justice; Government for the Governed and not for the people. It's this same logic that got us into IRAQ, we are right and you are wrong. I would like to tazer all the neo-con evil ass holes in this forum for defending this obscene use of force. Why not, it’s using their own insane sense of justice; Government for the Governed and not for the people. It’s this same logic that got us into IRAQ, we are right and you are wrong.

]]> By: John Henri Allyn http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374306 John Henri Allyn Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:36:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374306 There was a story on here a week or so ago where a judge basically ruled against a lady who wears the veil per her religion because she wouldn't remove it so that he could judge the truthfulness of her eyes. I think that went way too far. I don't agree with the whole "You have to be dressed exactly like this" type religions but if the lady was into it taking that hat off is basically the equivilent of being immoral and depending on her faith could really fuck up her psyche. Not to mention that judging truthfulness from eyes isn't nearly as effective as people make it out. There was a story on here a week or so ago where a judge basically ruled against a lady who wears the veil per her religion because she wouldn’t remove it so that he could judge the truthfulness of her eyes.

I think that went way too far. I don’t agree with the whole “You have to be dressed exactly like this” type religions but if the lady was into it taking that hat off is basically the equivilent of being immoral and depending on her faith could really fuck up her psyche.

Not to mention that judging truthfulness from eyes isn’t nearly as effective as people make it out.

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374301 Mr. Fusion Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:31:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374301 <i>Littleton says he believes the rule discriminates. "A Jewish man -- would you ask me to remove my yarmulke? A kofee? A turban? Anything like that?" Littleton said. </i> The usual course would be to ask the kid to leave and if he didn't then arrest him for trespassing. Instead, the cop tried to remove the kid's hat. As soon as the cop grabbed the kid's hat, that became an assault. From that point on it became self defense for the kid. The rule is discriminatory and quite probably illegal. Littleton says he believes the rule discriminates.
“A Jewish man — would you ask me to remove my yarmulke? A kofee? A turban? Anything like that?” Littleton said.

The usual course would be to ask the kid to leave and if he didn’t then arrest him for trespassing. Instead, the cop tried to remove the kid’s hat. As soon as the cop grabbed the kid’s hat, that became an assault. From that point on it became self defense for the kid.

The rule is discriminatory and quite probably illegal.

]]> By: catbeller http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374286 catbeller Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:26:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374286 I see the classic authoritarian mindset in a lot of posts. "Is it too much to ask to follow the rules?" I blame the last 20 years of turning elementary and high schools into f-ing military prisons. A whole generation LIKES arbitrary authority and cruelty. They think it's cool to punch out the nonconformists. They watched their authority figures do it all the time. It's all they have known. I see the classic authoritarian mindset in a lot of posts. “Is it too much to ask to follow the rules?”

I blame the last 20 years of turning elementary and high schools into f-ing military prisons. A whole generation LIKES arbitrary authority and cruelty. They think it’s cool to punch out the nonconformists. They watched their authority figures do it all the time. It’s all they have known.

]]> By: catbeller http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374274 catbeller Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:21:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374274 20: Yes, it is too much to ask, if you get Tasered. The point ISN'T ABOUT THE HAT. The hat would be a "metaphor", a thing that represents another thing, which in this case would be the freedom not to have some f-wit slam 150K volts of high-frequency agony and mess up your brainstem because he doesn't like your tone of disobedience. 20: Yes, it is too much to ask, if you get Tasered. The point ISN’T ABOUT THE HAT. The hat would be a “metaphor”, a thing that represents another thing, which in this case would be the freedom not to have some f-wit slam 150K volts of high-frequency agony and mess up your brainstem because he doesn’t like your tone of disobedience.

]]> By: catbeller http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374269 catbeller Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:19:20 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374269 The guy is right. It starts with the hats. If they can kill you for a hat, there are no limits to authority. The cops become prison guards for everyone alive. And let's not forget that most cops are private -- there's ARMIES of men out there with batons and stunguns, using them at will. The guy is right. It starts with the hats. If they can kill you for a hat, there are no limits to authority. The cops become prison guards for everyone alive. And let’s not forget that most cops are private — there’s ARMIES of men out there with batons and stunguns, using them at will.

]]> By: John Henri Allyn http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374255 John Henri Allyn Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:07:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374255 I was listening to Drudge one night and he had the funniest clip I've ever heard. It was a police man who pulled over some lady in Florida who was driving what I assume was her boyfriends car. Well instead of addressing the officer she decides to get on her cell phone and call her boyfriend (Which is how the recording got made on his voicemail) Well the cop asks her for about 5 minutes to get out of the car and simply acknowledge him and she keeps saying she has to talk to her bf (You could tell this girl had to have been imported or something) So long story short He tasers her twice. And quite honestly she deserved the first one for being stupid. Not sure about the second one though. He did it cause she wasn't getting out of the car but she was frozen in fear so I think the second one was too much. Was funny sounded as hell though. <strong>Editor's update</strong>: The video of that incident can be found <a href="http://www.newlin-deschler.com/Videos/taserarrest.qt" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I was listening to Drudge one night and he had the funniest clip I’ve ever heard.

It was a police man who pulled over some lady in Florida who was driving what I assume was her boyfriends car.

Well instead of addressing the officer she decides to get on her cell phone and call her boyfriend (Which is how the recording got made on his voicemail)

Well the cop asks her for about 5 minutes to get out of the car and simply acknowledge him and she keeps saying she has to talk to her bf (You could tell this girl had to have been imported or something)

So long story short He tasers her twice.

And quite honestly she deserved the first one for being stupid. Not sure about the second one though. He did it cause she wasn’t getting out of the car but she was frozen in fear so I think the second one was too much.

Was funny sounded as hell though.

Editor’s update: The video of that incident can be found here.

]]> By: Tom http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374234 Tom Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:53:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374234 if this keeps up people are going to start carrying around tasers to defend themselves against tazers, this one end well either way. if this keeps up people are going to start carrying around tasers to defend themselves against tazers, this one end well either way.

]]> By: Carl Trimble http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-374225 Carl Trimble Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:45:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-374225 #20 Is a taser not a weapon? He got what he deserved? Can't they just remove him from the premises? Not use a weapon on him. #20 Is a taser not a weapon? He got what he deserved? Can’t they just remove him from the premises? Not use a weapon on him.

]]> By: Hans Friedman http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/20/more-student-tasering-zapped-for-not-removing-his-hat/comment-page-1/#comment-373925 Hans Friedman Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:14:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8088#comment-373925 Are following the rules too much to ask? Cmon... Its like a dude refusing to leave the ladies room because he says its his right. This guy doesn't have a crown, and certainly is no King! He deserved what he got. If he abided by chamber rules as everyone else did there wouldn't be any problems. Don't just make up new rules and cry your rights were violated because you think you are better than everyone else (i.e. King!) Cant we just all get along? Are following the rules too much to ask? Cmon… Its like a dude refusing to leave the ladies room because he says its his right. This guy doesn’t have a crown, and certainly is no King! He deserved what he got. If he abided by chamber rules as everyone else did there wouldn’t be any problems. Don’t just make up new rules and cry your rights were violated because you think you are better than everyone else (i.e. King!)

Cant we just all get along?

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