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		<title>By: StacyVital@yahoo.com</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-1398484</link>
		<dc:creator>StacyVital@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Kayla Vital and Ajelica Cardona and I personally belive that any person whos illegal; should be able to be allowed to become an american citizen( as long as they dont have a background)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Kayla Vital and Ajelica Cardona and I personally belive that any person whos illegal; should be able to be allowed to become an american citizen( as long as they dont have a background)</p>
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		<title>By: OhForTheLoveOf</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-387672</link>
		<dc:creator>OhForTheLoveOf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#21 &lt;i&gt; - WTF does “loyalty to the flag” mean, anyway???&lt;/i&gt;

Mike...  quit your bitching and get in step with the status quo!

All hail our Flag Overlord!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#21 <i> &#8211; WTF does “loyalty to the flag” mean, anyway???</i></p>
<p>Mike&#8230;  quit your bitching and get in step with the status quo!</p>
<p>All hail our Flag Overlord!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-387558</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 15:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;79. What is the Pledge of Allegiance?

  A: The promise of loyalty to the flag and the nation&lt;/i&gt;

When does the US Constitution expect/require this promise to be recited? 

When does US Government law expect/require this promise to be recited?

How often is it required to be recited? Once? Daily? As required?

What actions will the US Government take against anyone who refuses to recite this promise?

WTF does &quot;loyalty to the flag&quot; mean, anyway???

Everytime some flag-waving [or flag lapel-pin wearing] yahoo claims if I disagree with them, then I am anti-American - I think of an early scene in &lt;i&gt;Schindler&#039;s List&lt;/i&gt;, as the Oskar Schindler character dons a Nazi lapel-pin...  using a symbol that he doesn&#039;t believe in, because it helps him get what he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>79. What is the Pledge of Allegiance?</p>
<p>  A: The promise of loyalty to the flag and the nation</i></p>
<p>When does the US Constitution expect/require this promise to be recited? </p>
<p>When does US Government law expect/require this promise to be recited?</p>
<p>How often is it required to be recited? Once? Daily? As required?</p>
<p>What actions will the US Government take against anyone who refuses to recite this promise?</p>
<p>WTF does &#8220;loyalty to the flag&#8221; mean, anyway???</p>
<p>Everytime some flag-waving [or flag lapel-pin wearing] yahoo claims if I disagree with them, then I am anti-American &#8211; I think of an early scene in <i>Schindler&#8217;s List</i>, as the Oskar Schindler character dons a Nazi lapel-pin&#8230;  using a symbol that he doesn&#8217;t believe in, because it helps him get what he wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbo Cide</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-386902</link>
		<dc:creator>Arbo Cide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, liberals don&#039;t believe that at all.  It tears apart almost all of their legal decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, liberals don&#8217;t believe that at all.  It tears apart almost all of their legal decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-386874</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 #10.  Or anybody, really.  &#039;State&#039;s Rights&#039; and &#039;Federalism&#039; are tropes that people trot out when they like the outcome.  The Religious Right wants the Federal government to override State laws about abortion and marriage just as various liberal groups push greater Federal powers to promote their causes.  

I remember Bob Dole used to walk around saying that he carried a copy of the 10th Amendment next to his heart.  I always wanted to ask him if that meant he supported California&#039;s right to leagalize medical marijuana or opposed Federal interference with Oregon&#039;s assisted suicide law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 #10.  Or anybody, really.  &#8216;State&#8217;s Rights&#8217; and &#8216;Federalism&#8217; are tropes that people trot out when they like the outcome.  The Religious Right wants the Federal government to override State laws about abortion and marriage just as various liberal groups push greater Federal powers to promote their causes.  </p>
<p>I remember Bob Dole used to walk around saying that he carried a copy of the 10th Amendment next to his heart.  I always wanted to ask him if that meant he supported California&#8217;s right to leagalize medical marijuana or opposed Federal interference with Oregon&#8217;s assisted suicide law.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbo Cide</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-386686</link>
		<dc:creator>Arbo Cide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people know about Jaywalking, so I think even people who know the answers will give stupid answers just to get on the show.

If these immigrants can answer all these questions, then why are they requiring bilingual ballots when they go to vote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people know about Jaywalking, so I think even people who know the answers will give stupid answers just to get on the show.</p>
<p>If these immigrants can answer all these questions, then why are they requiring bilingual ballots when they go to vote?</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-386595</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words: Forcing the immigrants to learn something the *vast* majority of the youn&#039; ones take for granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words: Forcing the immigrants to learn something the *vast* majority of the youn&#8217; ones take for granted.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-386380</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4, 
Leno&#039;s “Jay Walking” only shows the stupid people that didn&#039;t know the answers. I&#039;m sure that if they showed the entire tape, it would work out to a couple of hours for the three or four minutes they show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4,<br />
Leno&#8217;s “Jay Walking” only shows the stupid people that didn&#8217;t know the answers. I&#8217;m sure that if they showed the entire tape, it would work out to a couple of hours for the three or four minutes they show.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-386369</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12#  Even better than that, I&#039;d like to know how potential electromagnetic interference from a small handheld device warrants federal regulation under the umbrella of interstate commerce.  I seriously doubt my iPod is going to have an effect on commerce across state lines.

Actually, I know the answer - there are those people who view commerce as individual acts of exchange between parties, and those who view it as a single, huge interconnected system.  The people who advocate federal control over everything fall into the second group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12#  Even better than that, I&#8217;d like to know how potential electromagnetic interference from a small handheld device warrants federal regulation under the umbrella of interstate commerce.  I seriously doubt my iPod is going to have an effect on commerce across state lines.</p>
<p>Actually, I know the answer &#8211; there are those people who view commerce as individual acts of exchange between parties, and those who view it as a single, huge interconnected system.  The people who advocate federal control over everything fall into the second group.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve S</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-386352</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2 wrote:
&quot;Now, what if we made this test a requirement for voting?&quot;

An excellent idea.  You have to take a test before you are allowed to do many things that have consequences (driving a car for example).  Voting can have consequences too (for example, electing a president that say... starts a war).  I think you should at least demonstrate a working knowledge of the workings of our government before you are allowed to vote.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2 wrote:<br />
&#8220;Now, what if we made this test a requirement for voting?&#8221;</p>
<p>An excellent idea.  You have to take a test before you are allowed to do many things that have consequences (driving a car for example).  Voting can have consequences too (for example, electing a president that say&#8230; starts a war).  I think you should at least demonstrate a working knowledge of the workings of our government before you are allowed to vote.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember some folks studing to &#039;become citizens&#039; at work. They knew the line of succession (if something happends to the president, who is next in line etc.) right down to the guy who parks cars at the capitol cafe...
wow!   Some people are very glad to &#039;become Americans&#039; .  I say we welcome them if they are willing to learn about US. If not, we&#039;ll buy you a plane ticket home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember some folks studing to &#8216;become citizens&#8217; at work. They knew the line of succession (if something happends to the president, who is next in line etc.) right down to the guy who parks cars at the capitol cafe&#8230;<br />
wow!   Some people are very glad to &#8216;become Americans&#8217; .  I say we welcome them if they are willing to learn about US. If not, we&#8217;ll buy you a plane ticket home.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Franske</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/11/30/immigrant-test-to-become-more-meaningful/comment-page-1/#comment-386329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Franske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7, are you saying that because the question is on the test to begin with? If so I might agree. If you&#039;re issue is with the answer I would wonder what a better answer might be. I think any constitutional scholar, including a liberal one, would agree that the constitution explicitly limits federal power to what is enumerated in the constitution. The argument is really over how far the enumerated powers go, e.g. interstate commerece used to control broadcast mediums, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7, are you saying that because the question is on the test to begin with? If so I might agree. If you&#8217;re issue is with the answer I would wonder what a better answer might be. I think any constitutional scholar, including a liberal one, would agree that the constitution explicitly limits federal power to what is enumerated in the constitution. The argument is really over how far the enumerated powers go, e.g. interstate commerece used to control broadcast mediums, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6 -- you&#039;re talking about the average motivated legal immigrant.  Most illegals have no interest in becoming a citizen,  They&#039;re here to make more money than they could back home -- and that&#039;s where they send a significant portion of those earnings.

I&#039;ve met illegals on job sites who&#039;ve been working here 6-12 months a year for 10 years.  They never wanted to be citizens and still don&#039;t.

And they don&#039;t give a damn about the local Americans whose jobs they take away for cheaper wages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 &#8212; you&#8217;re talking about the average motivated legal immigrant.  Most illegals have no interest in becoming a citizen,  They&#8217;re here to make more money than they could back home &#8212; and that&#8217;s where they send a significant portion of those earnings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve met illegals on job sites who&#8217;ve been working here 6-12 months a year for 10 years.  They never wanted to be citizens and still don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And they don&#8217;t give a damn about the local Americans whose jobs they take away for cheaper wages.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7: Or a Bush Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7: Or a Bush Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, no questions about the Patriot Act? I&#039;m stunned. Because clearly this government exists not to govern, but to eliminate terrorism. Maybe they were afraid to ask about it alongside all these questions about the Constitution...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, no questions about the Patriot Act? I&#8217;m stunned. Because clearly this government exists not to govern, but to eliminate terrorism. Maybe they were afraid to ask about it alongside all these questions about the Constitution&#8230;</p>
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