Clinton adds staff, continues outreach on likely presidential bid — This should be an amusing two years.
WASHINGTON Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has begun reaching out to Democratic activists in New Hampshire as she prepares for her likely presidential bid.
Clinton has been calling Democratic activists in New Hampshire, including Governor John Lynch.She’s also added several top staff members, including Karen Hicks, a veteran field organizer who served as New Hampshire director for Howard Dean’s 2004 campaign. Hicks will be Clinton’s national field director.
#18.. Agree. My dream team is Obama/Hillary in 2008.
Oh my God, the right wing bible thumpers and their GOP suck-ups will just have a heart attack if they win. It will be a Jim Jones style mass suicide on a massive scale. I can’t wait !
#19 – Part of my disdain for Hillarius is that you can almost guarantee that she would want to raise my taxes. There is NOTHING important enough to me to support that. Most American’s tax burdens are already at least twice what they should be. Also, with her, you have to look at how hubby handled things. I don’t think she can be trusted to actually blow up someone who needs it.
#16 – That’s a good point but they’re also not an openly capitalistic society with big truck driving on freeways, etc. Don’t the Swedes fall in with most of Europe in loading a ridiculous tax on fuel to “discourage” people from driving real vehicles? I don’t think I would want to live there unless I was a bilionaire and didn’t have to care about the rest of it.
#22, …she would want to raise my taxes. There is NOTHING important enough to me to support that.
Not even your dirty little war in Iraq, your billion dollar bridge to no-where, your massive handouts to Haliburton, all those benefits to the drug and medical insurance industries, cleaning up the mess left by the oil companies and coal generators, …
The rich leftists want Hillary.
Remember that dog & pony show the Democrats put on during the last presidential election season? They put forward all possible competitors to Hillary to let them be branded as “losers.” That swept them out of the way for the next presidential election. The ‘winner’ was Kerry. But if he had gotten in, he would have been in the way for the 2008 Hillary campaign. He would have wanted re-election…
Kerry was dumb enough to let his campaign be run by Clintonistas. They “almost” won the election for him. We’ll see how smart these same Clintonistas get in managing Hillary’s campaign.
The #19 post comes closest to reality. And when did Giuliani become bisexual?
The Dems have not proven they can win anything. The recent elections were not the Dems winning but the Republicans losing — a backlash. Since Bush is not running again and there is nothing to backlash against the chances of a Dem victory (with any combination of candidates) is nil. The Manchurian candidate (yes,I think the moniker is funny) should be the winner. 2012 is a different story. That’s where Obama will emerge if he can. But you can all get your hopes up anyway.
#22 .. The fallacy of the GOP saving you from taxes is a mere illusion.
Aside from #23′s excellent point, the GOP prefers to put things on the national criedt card instead of pay as you go. Worst yet, they borrow to pay for things that have little to no value to the broad American tax payer. It’s more about concentration of power and concentration of wealth.
What you find is that states have SUBSTANTIALLY increased your tax burden because, well, your GOP run Federal Giverment is directy all the money to, well, Iraq, for instance. It seems like your Fed taxes might be lower, in fact your state taxes go higher and the interest on the national criedt card gets larger.
Perhaps philosophically you prefer the borrow and spend instead of pay as you go, but pay you will.
I just can’t get any enthusiasm up for HIllary, not because she’s a woman or a Clinton, but because she’s just another which-way-is-the-wind-blowing professional politician. Unfortunately, Obama’s comments in the past week or so are showing a similar waffling, don’t-say-anything-too-concrete attitude as well. Face it, whoever the Dems get on the ticket for 2008 are just going to be the same old same old.
I kinda like the idea of Bill Gates for prez.
Delay/Abramoff 2008!
#23 – Actually you made my point for me. If the money were spent properly, the badly overdue and much needed war in Iraq, plus many other problems could all be handled on half of what we’re all currently paying.
The types of problems you mentioned started long before GW came into office, and he certainly hasn’t done much to help. Here, I’m simply talking about why I despise Hillarius. Actually I despise most politicians for these types of things. They’re all going to screw us one way or another.
The screwing being equal, you then have to base your vote on who actually has the guts to blow someone up who needs it. Here’s a comparison: http://powerlineblog.com/archives/016116.php
The dream 2008 race:
Democrats: Jesse Jackson / Al Sharpton
Republicans: Pat Buchanon / Pat Robertson
Independents: Kinky Friedman / Jesse Ventura
Greens: Ralph Nader / Al Gore
Bi-Sexuals: Hiliarius Clinton / Oprah Winfrey
Now that would be entertainment!
Let’s amend the constitution and elect Borat president!
I think Richardson is looking pretty good. Tax-cutting Dem gov, 14 term congressman, UN ambassador, Sec of Energy, Hispanic and the media loves him.
#29, What screwing? You claim to dislike all politicians who do things like post #23. Yet, all those are actions of the Republicans currently in Washington. Not once did you mention any of them by name, only Hillary Clinton, whom you now derisively refer to as Hillarius. So why not criticize those who actually are ruining the country instead of throwing insults at Democrats you have no intension of voting for?
It wouldn’t be because she is married to Bill? The President the Republicans all hate because he was such a good President, especially compared to his two predecessors and that dipshit that followed him. It wouldn’t be because she actually has some intelligence, a quality sorely lacking in Republican leaders? It wouldn’t be because she make a sentence without smirking and butchering the language?
Ok, all you Obama fans out there. Please list why you feel that he is qualified to be president. What are his accomplishments? Tell me all the great initiatives he’s spearheaded.
I expect a quick response since I don’t believe there is much for you to respond with.
Here is another request. Name his position on some issues. I’ll take it in good faith that you didn’t have to look it up.
#34 & 35,
I am not an Obama fan. So maybe you could enlighten us with maybe a few reasons why Obama would make a poor President.
Geez Dallas and Julie and others……you all don’t learn well do you??
We are in the 6th year of a Presidency of a 1 term Governor who got elected on platitudes and apparently little else and you people want to replace him with a first term Senator (only 2 years in office) that has no experience at anything but running for office.
Oh, he has made all the right moves, but that isn’t a plus in my book.
As to Hillary….I seriously doubt that she will get the nomination, but if she does then a good move would be to pick Obama as her running mate. I made this prediction months ago in the Cage Match forum. There is no difference between Hillary and Obama, except a few years in office, they both sound and act like politicians on the prowl.
It won’t matter anyway….the Democrats won’t take the White House in 2008…..they just made that a sure thing by winning both houses of Congress in November.
The Republicans will have a furious fight for the nomination, but it will be McCain…..the only question is who he picks for his running mate….I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Condi Rice. Mc Cain isn’t comfortable around right wing religious folks (he’ll court them for the nomination), so I don’t see him picking Romney. Guliani is popular, but that will change when his liberal views become an issue in conservative states and he has way to much personal baggage to overcome.
Too many of you are liberal and don’t engage any conservatives in your real life, giving you a view that is askew about where this country really is on the ideology scale. A safe, conservative, who is not a religious nut job will always beat a liberal for the Presidency, barring complete economic collapse or a huge recession.
If McCain is the Republican nominee, I will vote for him. If Hillary is the Democrats nominee and McCain isn’t running, I would hold my nose and vote for her….but not Obama or Romney.
#33…Mr. Fusion…..Your leaning too far left again buddy…..Clinton wasn’t a disaster as President, but he wasn’t in the good category either. Most of what he did was forced on him by a Republican congress, and his own innate fear of not being liked.
He was (as many now say) distracted by the Monica stuff when he should have been paying more attention to what bin Laden and others were doing, and when he did respond he did it so lightly because he was afraid of people accusing him of what they accused him of anyway…..using the attacks as an excuse to take the medias mind off Monica. They were timed in an odd way to cover headlines that were about to break on the Monica issue.
But, he was the consummate politician….kind of Huey Long in a way…..the land and backroom business deals in Arkansas , the looting of the White House, and the pardons were all just tossed off as ***boys will be boys*** because of his charm.
#36 – Obama’s a Clinton type triangulator. The scariest thing I’ve heard out of him so far is that he talked about how he’d like to “fix” the “inequalities inherent in capitalism”. Sounds socialist leaning to me.
#33 – Clinton allowed terrorism to organize and grow for 8 years forcing us to go into the mideast – not going would have been criminal. Bush screwed up by not hitting them hard enough. That’s one reason I wouldn’t care for his wife. I’m ripping her specifically because that’s who this thread is about.
Fusion, you’re obviously well educated and intelligent – which make it all the more incomprehensible to me how you could consider Bill a good president or support would-be Empress Hillarius.
Voting for GW in the last two elections was a choice forced upon many of us in self-defense. Puddles of brown liquid would have been better President’s than Gore or Kerry