19. True. But you don’t have to watch a child birth from the porno crotch level to help. You can view everything from above, so to speak.

Now, birthplace is one thing, nationality of the child another and citizenship yet another thing. In the meanwhile I found this interesting explanation about their relationships.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/ref/air-birth.htm?cid=rss1

We certainly do have the right to control our borders, but changing the fundamental nature of American citizenship to deal with a temporary phenomenon (the current influx of illegals) seems overblown.

#17 & 18. I can see how watching your own child being born would be something special, but watching someone else’s is another story.

Let’s say I saw the whole experience. But in your demented fantasy I did not have my head stuck in her my wife’s ass for the duration of the birth. I saw my wife go through pain, saw her amazing internal strength, saw my daughter’s appearance in the world. It was not disgusting. It was miraculous. And, I’m sure that normal people would agree, the experience of birth is detached from any morbid sexual fantasies you may imagine it to be.

Um ok – did you WATCH the birth? If so, you need to seek psychiatric assistance, because, while i appreciate the fact we dont hatch from eggs (and the majority of women dont have the patience to sit in one place for 9 months), live birth is DISGUSTNG.

Sreriously dude, seek proffesional help pronto

That’s just sad. America is all about the sins of the fathers not being visited upon the sons.

“Anyone born in the US of A is an American. period. and that’s a good thing” Nice sentiment in that last phrase, but I fail to see why its true. There are lots of people that are born in this good ole’ USA (from citizens and illegals) that are, as the british say, arseholes, that we would have been, as a country, better off if they’ve never been born (I’ll use Charles Manson and Jeffery Dahmer as examples of births we could have done without).

As to the new wave of immigrants, there are fundamental differences between what happened 75 plus years ago and now. One important thing: back then, the *only* thing an immigrant was entitled to in this country was an education for children. Not food, not shelter, not healthcare. Immigrants cost money now, and taxpayers have a right to at least discuss how this money is being spent. I am not advocating that people should starve and get sick, but it is our “house” and we as a country have a right to make decisions on who can and will partake of our kindness and charity. We all make decisions like that in our personal and family lives, in that I doubt every excess $ above the poverty line goes to help others. Our country is just an expansion of that frame of reference, we are entitled to decide where are charity goes.

Place of Birth: Lufthansa

Anyone born in the US of A is an American. period. and that’s a good thing, regardless of what misdemeanors their parents may have committed getting here.

First, the airspace of a country is sovereign to the country. Do you think the US would allow any nation to just fly over your land just because they’re in an airplane? No.

Second, the baby didn’t choose to fly. Maybe mom had an ulterior motive, but what does that have to do with the baby and it’s citizenship? Should the mother be thrown in jail for immigration violation? Should the baby be deported? Seriously, a birth of a baby is a good thing. If the baby grows up being a taxpayer, that’s all the government, and you, should care about.

Third, to #3. You must be a child hating homosexual, or a child hating heterosexual. The birth of my daughter was the most amazing experience ever. And after that experience, if I ever see a woman going into birth outside of a hospital / safe and controlled environment, I’m going to be right there… getting water, cloths, shoelaces… whatever I can do. Kinda how the Minutemen are there to watch the Canadian border from us evil Cannuckistans.

And 6. The plane was 1 hour from o’Hare in Chigaco. Sure, it could put it in Toronto, but I don’t know of many Guadelajara – Toronto – Chicago flights.

2. Yes. But it’s up to the discretion of the airline, and the honesty of the passenger to make that determination. The baby is innocent.

I’m not really suprised here – mexicans have been doing this for years now – just cuz they’re “upgrading” to flight now doesnt mean anything