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	<title>Comments on: Newt Gingrich defends his statements on restricting speech</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we&#039;re going to restrict speech in America then, for-the-love-of-all-that&#039;s-good, let&#039;s start with that blowhole Newt Gingrich. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we&#8217;re going to restrict speech in America then, for-the-love-of-all-that&#8217;s-good, let&#8217;s start with that blowhole Newt Gingrich.</p>
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		<title>By: traaxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>traaxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would of thought you would be for this since it means that one couldn&#039;t express any forms of religious thought in public. At least the Muslims couldn&#039;t and since that would give you a good excuse to attack Christians under the banner of equal treatment, you really should be for this.   

Leftist already attack First Amendment rights of free speech.  They classify anything they don&#039;t like as &#039;hate speech&#039;, but that ok because it&#039;s socialist/communist making the distinction.  Really for the ACLU to be upset about this is hypocrisy at it&#039;s finest, they read into the Bill of Rights and read out of the Bill of Rights anything that doesn&#039;t suit their agenda of a Socialist/Communist Globalist society, but since they are winning they will get to write the history books.

Really can you tell a terrorist?  If someone says that we are going to attack such and such is that free speech?  If someone advocates to the overthrow of the US Government and the killing of all blacks, or white, is that free speech?  If someone writes a plan to blow up something and put the plan up on the internet is that free speech?  Does free speech have it’s limitations?  Would tolerate someone saying that no Jews were killed by Hitler?  Would you tolerate someone advocating a superior race?  I doubt it, the same people the decry Newt would cry for blood with the above free speech, but true free speech has no limitations.  

Under true free speech, I could put up someone address, schedule and routine.  An invitation of attack yes, but it is true free speech.  There are limitation to free speech, what they are has to be decided by us indirectly through a Republican form of government.  This infinity better in than in Europe and rest of the World where a minority oligarchy makes such decisions, but rest assured we’re getting there and the NAU will be a big step towards that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would of thought you would be for this since it means that one couldn&#8217;t express any forms of religious thought in public. At least the Muslims couldn&#8217;t and since that would give you a good excuse to attack Christians under the banner of equal treatment, you really should be for this.   </p>
<p>Leftist already attack First Amendment rights of free speech.  They classify anything they don&#8217;t like as &#8216;hate speech&#8217;, but that ok because it&#8217;s socialist/communist making the distinction.  Really for the ACLU to be upset about this is hypocrisy at it&#8217;s finest, they read into the Bill of Rights and read out of the Bill of Rights anything that doesn&#8217;t suit their agenda of a Socialist/Communist Globalist society, but since they are winning they will get to write the history books.</p>
<p>Really can you tell a terrorist?  If someone says that we are going to attack such and such is that free speech?  If someone advocates to the overthrow of the US Government and the killing of all blacks, or white, is that free speech?  If someone writes a plan to blow up something and put the plan up on the internet is that free speech?  Does free speech have it’s limitations?  Would tolerate someone saying that no Jews were killed by Hitler?  Would you tolerate someone advocating a superior race?  I doubt it, the same people the decry Newt would cry for blood with the above free speech, but true free speech has no limitations.  </p>
<p>Under true free speech, I could put up someone address, schedule and routine.  An invitation of attack yes, but it is true free speech.  There are limitation to free speech, what they are has to be decided by us indirectly through a Republican form of government.  This infinity better in than in Europe and rest of the World where a minority oligarchy makes such decisions, but rest assured we’re getting there and the NAU will be a big step towards that.</p>
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		<title>By: RDaneelOlivaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>RDaneelOlivaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either.&quot; 

-Benjamin Franklin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either.&#8221; </p>
<p>-Benjamin Franklin</p>
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		<title>By: SportySpectator</title>
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		<dc:creator>SportySpectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 04:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gingrich is an ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gingrich is an ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/12/17/newt-gingrich-defends-his-statements-on-restricting-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-408047</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I don’t know where you live, but American school kids are usually required to understand the Constitution before they are allowed to graduate.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s probably being a bit optimistic... I&#039;m just happy if they can make the correct change for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I don’t know where you live, but American school kids are usually required to understand the Constitution before they are allowed to graduate.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably being a bit optimistic&#8230; I&#8217;m just happy if they can make the correct change for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20, Ron

The US of A IS a &lt;i&gt;democracy&lt;/i&gt;. Like it or not, Americans exercise a &lt;i&gt;republican&lt;/i&gt; form of government.

Our rights come from our being men. It does not come from God, some King, or any other artificial construct. We are born with these rights.

The only one who can take away our rights would be a dictator and that would be by force.

Get a book on Civics. Learn a bit about America. I don&#039;t know where you live, but American school kids are usually required to understand the Constitution before they are allowed to graduate. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20, Ron</p>
<p>The US of A IS a <i>democracy</i>. Like it or not, Americans exercise a <i>republican</i> form of government.</p>
<p>Our rights come from our being men. It does not come from God, some King, or any other artificial construct. We are born with these rights.</p>
<p>The only one who can take away our rights would be a dictator and that would be by force.</p>
<p>Get a book on Civics. Learn a bit about America. I don&#8217;t know where you live, but American school kids are usually required to understand the Constitution before they are allowed to graduate.</p>
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		<title>By: catbeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>catbeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>27: You&#039;ve got a good point there. These aren&#039;t the old corporate fascists that liked Hitler and Mussolini. These new corporate people are ideological only in that they want no goovernment control --government corporate welfare, however, is just peachy, but no matter. They want power and that which power grants- wealth. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>27: You&#8217;ve got a good point there. These aren&#8217;t the old corporate fascists that liked Hitler and Mussolini. These new corporate people are ideological only in that they want no goovernment control &#8211;government corporate welfare, however, is just peachy, but no matter. They want power and that which power grants- wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: catbeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>catbeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What strikes me in the comments is the often-mentioned &quot;goal&quot; of the terrorists, destroying the U.S. and our freedoms. 

Never had any of the Al Queda people stated that as a goal. The GOAL was to get us to leave the military bases in Saudi Arabia; that was bin Laden&#039;s big beef. There is no basis in word or fact for the idea that somehow Al Queda is the new Soviet Union. 

The idea for limiting your rights comes entirely from those men who drafted the Patriot Acts 1 and 2; I think we can name names: Cheney, Alberto Gonzales, Ashcroft, and their ventriloquist dummy, Bush. bin Laden really doesn&#039;t care what you say or where you travel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What strikes me in the comments is the often-mentioned &#8220;goal&#8221; of the terrorists, destroying the U.S. and our freedoms. </p>
<p>Never had any of the Al Queda people stated that as a goal. The GOAL was to get us to leave the military bases in Saudi Arabia; that was bin Laden&#8217;s big beef. There is no basis in word or fact for the idea that somehow Al Queda is the new Soviet Union. </p>
<p>The idea for limiting your rights comes entirely from those men who drafted the Patriot Acts 1 and 2; I think we can name names: Cheney, Alberto Gonzales, Ashcroft, and their ventriloquist dummy, Bush. bin Laden really doesn&#8217;t care what you say or where you travel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/12/17/newt-gingrich-defends-his-statements-on-restricting-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-407530</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27, and just what does &quot;a chicken in every pot&quot; have to do with freedom and liberty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27, and just what does &#8220;a chicken in every pot&#8221; have to do with freedom and liberty?</p>
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		<title>By: TJGeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26 - Turning the US into a totalitarian state is probably just a side-effect of their main agenda. They want to merge governmental and corporate power and run everything to increase the wealth of those who are on corporate boards or wear &quot;c&quot;-level titles. Such a system fits Mussolini&#039;s definition of Fascism but that&#039;s just a coincidence. Those people are about corporate and personal advantage, and anything else, like hifalutin notions of freedom and liberty and a chicken in every pot, will be spouted only if useful to advance the main agenda. Totalitarians? Nah. They just want to be rich and powerful, and they&#039;re unencumbered by principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26 &#8211; Turning the US into a totalitarian state is probably just a side-effect of their main agenda. They want to merge governmental and corporate power and run everything to increase the wealth of those who are on corporate boards or wear &#8220;c&#8221;-level titles. Such a system fits Mussolini&#8217;s definition of Fascism but that&#8217;s just a coincidence. Those people are about corporate and personal advantage, and anything else, like hifalutin notions of freedom and liberty and a chicken in every pot, will be spouted only if useful to advance the main agenda. Totalitarians? Nah. They just want to be rich and powerful, and they&#8217;re unencumbered by principles.</p>
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		<title>By: Roc Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roc Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people who claim to defend freedom, while limiting our civil rights do not deserve to be listened to.  What if we just ignore the newt, won&#039;t it just go away.  These people want the terrorists to win, in that they want to turn this country in to a totalitarian state, rather than be a nation where the rule of law applies to EVERYONE.  He also wants to shift the burden of proof to where the accused has to prove that he is NOT guilty.  One of the tenets of our government is that a person is INNOCENT, until proven guilty in a court of his or her peers.  

I hope the republicans run the newt for president in &#039;08.  He WILL lose by an historical margin.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people who claim to defend freedom, while limiting our civil rights do not deserve to be listened to.  What if we just ignore the newt, won&#8217;t it just go away.  These people want the terrorists to win, in that they want to turn this country in to a totalitarian state, rather than be a nation where the rule of law applies to EVERYONE.  He also wants to shift the burden of proof to where the accused has to prove that he is NOT guilty.  One of the tenets of our government is that a person is INNOCENT, until proven guilty in a court of his or her peers.  </p>
<p>I hope the republicans run the newt for president in &#8217;08.  He WILL lose by an historical margin.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2006/12/17/newt-gingrich-defends-his-statements-on-restricting-speech/comment-page-2/#comment-407265</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul for President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul for President.</p>
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		<title>By: BryanP</title>
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		<dc:creator>BryanP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I questioned the previous article.  I did not say anyone &quot;twisted his words&quot;, rather that virtually none of the article was quotes, and what was quoted was pretty meaningless.  Everything else was &quot;Newt said.&quot;  Every story about it linked back to the Union Leader.  I couldn&#039;t find any reference to it that didn&#039;t.  Call me paranoid, but when a poorly written piece in ONE paper is the only source, I prefer to wait until I can get more facts.

If the quotes in the new article are accurate, Newt has lost what credibility he had left as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I questioned the previous article.  I did not say anyone &#8220;twisted his words&#8221;, rather that virtually none of the article was quotes, and what was quoted was pretty meaningless.  Everything else was &#8220;Newt said.&#8221;  Every story about it linked back to the Union Leader.  I couldn&#8217;t find any reference to it that didn&#8217;t.  Call me paranoid, but when a poorly written piece in ONE paper is the only source, I prefer to wait until I can get more facts.</p>
<p>If the quotes in the new article are accurate, Newt has lost what credibility he had left as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Nekkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nekkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An outsiders comment: Is this guy Newt completely bonkers? Since when did praying constitute &quot;pretending to be a terrorist&quot;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An outsiders comment: Is this guy Newt completely bonkers? Since when did praying constitute &#8220;pretending to be a terrorist&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Smartalix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smartalix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14,

Actually, John made the image switch. It is better, but that&#039;s why he wears the big hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14,</p>
<p>Actually, John made the image switch. It is better, but that&#8217;s why he wears the big hat.</p>
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