Comments on: Blu-Ray DRM Cracked? Already? http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/ General interest observations and true web-log. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:12:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-443394 pedro Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:35:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-443394 #9 I'll let you know next week #9 I’ll let you know next week

]]> By: Mike Voice http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442974 Mike Voice Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:22:20 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442974 <i>The plaintext exploit used to <b>partially</b> crack HD-DVD a couple of weeks ago...</i> And 7 <i>Maybe I read it wrong, but they didn’t really crack the DRM; they retreived a key from the player. If thats the case then every player needs a player specific hack...</i> A lot of anti-DRM types were hoping Blu-ray would lose the battle against HD-DVD if for no other reason than that Blu-ray had more DRM than HD-DVD... Remember Microsoft & HP slamming Blu-ray for not allowing sharing of movies over a home network? It will be interesting to see how the "war" escalates... and if the layers of DRM on the new discs make it <b>just</b> complicated enough that a significant percentage of DVD leechers won't bother? The plaintext exploit used to partially crack HD-DVD a couple of weeks ago…

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7 Maybe I read it wrong, but they didn’t really crack the DRM; they retreived a key from the player. If thats the case then every player needs a player specific hack…

A lot of anti-DRM types were hoping Blu-ray would lose the battle against HD-DVD if for no other reason than that Blu-ray had more DRM than HD-DVD…

Remember Microsoft & HP slamming Blu-ray for not allowing sharing of movies over a home network?

It will be interesting to see how the “war” escalates… and if the layers of DRM on the new discs make it just complicated enough that a significant percentage of DVD leechers won’t bother?

]]> By: James Hill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442946 James Hill Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:55:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442946 Regarding the DRM issue, the logic of "If DRM is removed [insert format here] will win." really needs to go away, as its never been proven correct. While I don't like DRM, acting like it is the source of all evil is a joke... and shows a complete lack of understanding on the topic. Hell, everyone knew this day would come... including Sony. Maybe they wanted the DRM to get cracked to get free attention? Stranger things have happened. As for the file size issue, #9 logic was already squashed a week or two ago on this blog. The vast majority of people interested in this conversation have both an always on Internet connect and a computer that can be left to do downloads unattended. Once download management technology is improved this method of file acquisition will become common place... both for legal and illegal gains. I saw a NAS type device two months ago that included an unattended torrent download technology. This stuff is already out there, just waiting for the right application. Regarding the DRM issue, the logic of “If DRM is removed [insert format here] will win.” really needs to go away, as its never been proven correct. While I don’t like DRM, acting like it is the source of all evil is a joke… and shows a complete lack of understanding on the topic.

Hell, everyone knew this day would come… including Sony. Maybe they wanted the DRM to get cracked to get free attention? Stranger things have happened.

As for the file size issue, #9 logic was already squashed a week or two ago on this blog. The vast majority of people interested in this conversation have both an always on Internet connect and a computer that can be left to do downloads unattended. Once download management technology is improved this method of file acquisition will become common place… both for legal and illegal gains.

I saw a NAS type device two months ago that included an unattended torrent download technology. This stuff is already out there, just waiting for the right application.

]]> By: Damnit Hoppie http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442923 Damnit Hoppie Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:38:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442923 <i>I don’t know many people who would download a 20+ gig movie tho, even if it was free… </i> You'd be surprised at how many already download 20 gigs or more in a month/week/day. Myself personally, I usually clear about 15-20 gigs a day and dont see it slowing in the near future. The only setback is that once the other 95% of the people in the world (with access to high speed internet) learn how to use torrent clients. . . our ISP's wont be able to handle it. I don’t know many people who would download a 20+ gig movie tho, even if it was free…

You’d be surprised at how many already download 20 gigs or more in a month/week/day. Myself personally, I usually clear about 15-20 gigs a day and dont see it slowing in the near future.

The only setback is that once the other 95% of the people in the world (with access to high speed internet) learn how to use torrent clients. . . our ISP’s wont be able to handle it.

]]> By: Jim http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442894 Jim Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:20:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442894 I don't know many people who would download a 20+ gig movie tho, even if it was free... I don’t know many people who would download a 20+ gig movie tho, even if it was free…

]]> By: ChrisMac http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442772 ChrisMac Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:47:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442772 tis all junk in da trunk can't we have somehing made by thrustmaster with JBL speakers yeeee haaaaaw cowboy tis all junk in da trunk

can’t we have somehing made by thrustmaster with JBL speakers
yeeee haaaaaw cowboy

]]> By: OmarThe Alien http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442540 OmarThe Alien Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:26:19 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442540 Maybe I read it wrong, but they didn't really crack the DRM; they retreived a key from the player. If thats the case then every player needs a player specific hack, and that could be a real pain in the ass. Maybe I read it wrong, but they didn’t really crack the DRM; they retreived a key from the player. If thats the case then every player needs a player specific hack, and that could be a real pain in the ass.

]]> By: ChrisMac http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442488 ChrisMac Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:36:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442488 Will a cracked DRM, along with online downloads, help or hurt these formats? Silly question... Without cracked DRM.. They are both doomed to fail. With no DRM.. Success! Write whatever law you want.. Corporations are not people. and the people will always have the power providing they excercise it P.S. If BlueRay dropped DRM tommorow.. Sony would win Will a cracked DRM, along with online downloads, help or hurt these formats?

Silly question…

Without cracked DRM.. They are both doomed to fail.
With no DRM.. Success!

Write whatever law you want.. Corporations are not people.
and the people will always have the power
providing they excercise it

P.S.
If BlueRay dropped DRM tommorow.. Sony would win

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442448 ECA Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:15:14 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442448 If it is man made, it can be MAN unmade. If it is man made, it can be MAN unmade.

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442345 Jägermeister Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:17:38 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442345 <a href="http://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=1080p+HD-DVD&video=on" rel="nofollow">No kidding</a>... No kidding…

]]> By: James Hill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442269 James Hill Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:14:49 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442269 ...or at least be more willing to learn about HD. To compare, Napster introduced a lot of people to downloading music who may not have tried it if the cost wasn't $0. …or at least be more willing to learn about HD.

To compare, Napster introduced a lot of people to downloading music who may not have tried it if the cost wasn’t $0.

]]> By: SN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442241 SN Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:41:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442241 1. <em>"Will a cracked DRM, along with online downloads, help or hurt these formats?"</em> Interesting question. As most people are <a href="http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=8908" rel="nofollow">ignorantly hooking up their HDTVs to non-HD content</a>, I could imagine someone downloading a true HD movie, liking what they saw, and going out and buying more. 1. “Will a cracked DRM, along with online downloads, help or hurt these formats?”

Interesting question. As most people are ignorantly hooking up their HDTVs to non-HD content, I could imagine someone downloading a true HD movie, liking what they saw, and going out and buying more.

]]> By: James Hill http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/blu-ray-drm-cracked-already/comment-page-1/#comment-442238 James Hill Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:39:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=9364#comment-442238 It should be interesting to see how this plays out, considering both formats have yet to hit a decent price-per-disc. Will a cracked DRM, along with online downloads, help or hurt these formats? It should be interesting to see how this plays out, considering both formats have yet to hit a decent price-per-disc.

Will a cracked DRM, along with online downloads, help or hurt these formats?

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