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	<title>Comments on: Study:  Prison Makes You Live Longer</title>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-450907</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably there&#039;s a little sleight of hand in this comparison between prison and outside death rates.

Hardly anyone - except murderers - dies of old age in prison.  Most sentences are in the nature of ten years or so.  Even long term sentences usually are geared to the convict staying in prison only until he&#039;s too old and feeble to re-offend.  

Further, because prisons want to save on their health costs - even though prison medical care is already notorious low quality - they have a practice of releasing prisoners whose health problems have made them too feeble to be much of a threat to society.  Once releases, his medical treatment (if any) is funded by something other than the prison budget.  THe result is that most prisoners, even if their crimes were serious, becomes &quot;civilians&quot; in time for their deaths not to be counted as prison deaths.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably there&#8217;s a little sleight of hand in this comparison between prison and outside death rates.</p>
<p>Hardly anyone &#8211; except murderers &#8211; dies of old age in prison.  Most sentences are in the nature of ten years or so.  Even long term sentences usually are geared to the convict staying in prison only until he&#8217;s too old and feeble to re-offend.  </p>
<p>Further, because prisons want to save on their health costs &#8211; even though prison medical care is already notorious low quality &#8211; they have a practice of releasing prisoners whose health problems have made them too feeble to be much of a threat to society.  Once releases, his medical treatment (if any) is funded by something other than the prison budget.  THe result is that most prisoners, even if their crimes were serious, becomes &#8220;civilians&#8221; in time for their deaths not to be counted as prison deaths.</p>
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		<title>By: TheGlobalWarmer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-443182</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGlobalWarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly 50% of the inmates that die in prison do so more often than the other half that don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly 50% of the inmates that die in prison do so more often than the other half that don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-443128</link>
		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My nephew has a sordid past and has spent two years in federal prison.  I once chided him about &quot;free&quot; medical in prison and he laughed.  He said the inmates &lt;i&gt;fear&lt;/i&gt; getting sick in prison.  He mentioned two deaths that occurred during his stint.  One died from an absessed tooth -- the contracted dentist didn&#039;t show and they wouldn&#039;t give him emergency treatment.  The other one was lifting weights when he suddenly felt pain in his chest.  He asked the guards for permission to see the doctor and they refused.  He died an hour later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My nephew has a sordid past and has spent two years in federal prison.  I once chided him about &#8220;free&#8221; medical in prison and he laughed.  He said the inmates <i>fear</i> getting sick in prison.  He mentioned two deaths that occurred during his stint.  One died from an absessed tooth &#8212; the contracted dentist didn&#8217;t show and they wouldn&#8217;t give him emergency treatment.  The other one was lifting weights when he suddenly felt pain in his chest.  He asked the guards for permission to see the doctor and they refused.  He died an hour later.</p>
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		<title>By: undissembled</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-442837</link>
		<dc:creator>undissembled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I notice that whites and Hispanics don’t fare as well as blacks…..maybe because they don’t make their shanks as well as the blacks do.
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LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I notice that whites and Hispanics don’t fare as well as blacks…..maybe because they don’t make their shanks as well as the blacks do.<br />
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<p>LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: B. Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-442692</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prison conditions are shameful. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prison conditions are shameful.</p>
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		<title>By: tallwookie</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-442485</link>
		<dc:creator>tallwookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would explain why people who have been in jail want to get back - the outside would is TOUGH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would explain why people who have been in jail want to get back &#8211; the outside would is TOUGH</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-442475</link>
		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that whites and Hispanics don&#039;t fare as well as blacks.....maybe because they don&#039;t make their shanks as well as the blacks do.

My Aunt is a prison Nurse.  She is highly qualified and has worked for the prisons since the late 80&quot;s.  She said the biggest problem is getting the *house* Doctor(usually a retired physcian who dosen&#039;t give a crap) to refer sick patients/prisoners to qualified Doctors for care.  And she said good Nurses burn out quickly, mainly because of the stress(from the prison staff, not the inmates).  She has lasted 20 years because she says she has put up with my Uncle for 35 years, prison guards and criminals are a snap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that whites and Hispanics don&#8217;t fare as well as blacks&#8230;..maybe because they don&#8217;t make their shanks as well as the blacks do.</p>
<p>My Aunt is a prison Nurse.  She is highly qualified and has worked for the prisons since the late 80&#8243;s.  She said the biggest problem is getting the *house* Doctor(usually a retired physcian who dosen&#8217;t give a crap) to refer sick patients/prisoners to qualified Doctors for care.  And she said good Nurses burn out quickly, mainly because of the stress(from the prison staff, not the inmates).  She has lasted 20 years because she says she has put up with my Uncle for 35 years, prison guards and criminals are a snap.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your also sheltered from things like traffic accidents in jail..
and fast/junk food

Interesting stat but it seems to me to be a FYI bit of info..

I&#039;m pretty sure noone is trying to do life in jail.. to live longer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your also sheltered from things like traffic accidents in jail..<br />
and fast/junk food</p>
<p>Interesting stat but it seems to me to be a FYI bit of info..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure noone is trying to do life in jail.. to live longer</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-442429</link>
		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Fusion (#4), I figure the next study is going to show that people in prison are also HAPPIER than those outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Fusion (#4), I figure the next study is going to show that people in prison are also HAPPIER than those outside.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-442418</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon, who really believes this bullshit ??? The study is obviously skewed.

Often when lifer inmates are too old to care of themselves, they are released to hospice care, thereby reducing the number of deaths. If an inmate is terminal, they are more likely to receive parole then if they weren&#039;t. Both these measures reduce the natural statistics and shift the numbers from the one column to another.

A greater question would be why are only 89% of inmates get diagnostic work? When they claim that 93% received medical treatment, what is the quality of that treatment? Does handing out an aspirin count as treatment in this study?

Many states have sold the medical care contracts to the lowest bidders. In turn, they use unqualified people and those who can&#039;t get jobs elsewhere to do the work. California has even gone under Federal Court control because the medical system is so abhorrent.

Being in jail is no picnic. It is an abusive jungle where no one cares. Yet those on the outside will still suggest crap like this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, who really believes this bullshit ??? The study is obviously skewed.</p>
<p>Often when lifer inmates are too old to care of themselves, they are released to hospice care, thereby reducing the number of deaths. If an inmate is terminal, they are more likely to receive parole then if they weren&#8217;t. Both these measures reduce the natural statistics and shift the numbers from the one column to another.</p>
<p>A greater question would be why are only 89% of inmates get diagnostic work? When they claim that 93% received medical treatment, what is the quality of that treatment? Does handing out an aspirin count as treatment in this study?</p>
<p>Many states have sold the medical care contracts to the lowest bidders. In turn, they use unqualified people and those who can&#8217;t get jobs elsewhere to do the work. California has even gone under Federal Court control because the medical system is so abhorrent.</p>
<p>Being in jail is no picnic. It is an abusive jungle where no one cares. Yet those on the outside will still suggest crap like this article.</p>
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		<title>By: dugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps one factor the death rate is worse outside prison because criminals are killing people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps one factor the death rate is worse outside prison because criminals are killing people?</p>
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		<title>By: Jägermeister</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-442392</link>
		<dc:creator>Jägermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder... no women to nag you to death...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder&#8230; no women to nag you to death&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/22/study-prison-makes-you-live-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-442389</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, three hots and a cot, AND free health care, sure, I can believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, three hots and a cot, AND free health care, sure, I can believe it.</p>
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