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		<title>By: jckamartin</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-2/#comment-460010</link>
		<dc:creator>jckamartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering where PC and Mac folks met to duke it out. Now I know. For any of you who are confused, let me summarize my lifetime battle with both. I started out with Apple from the very beginning - buying one of the first 100 Apple IIs to teach high school students. Then in the early to mid 80s, Apple closed its architecture and IBM opened theirs. Apple Lisa - oh man what a painful venture. By then I had a computer store and was delighted to watch Apple get knocked off of its high horse as schools started learning that they could actually do work with a PC.and that parents weren&#039;t buying Apple boxes. But low and behold, I had kids, and school projects, and friends that wanted videos turned into DVDs. So although I&#039;ve been in IT for years, and almost always PC shops, I bought a G5 iMac and suddenly all the schoolwork, movies, photo albums, and DVDs get done in record time with spectacular results. No more fighting with Adobe Premier or Microsoft Movie. We  still game on the 5 XP machines I own (we have to), but now we are seriously considering replacing the machine I am on now with an Intel based 23 inch iMac so we can get the best of both worlds. It is still a PC world out there ladies and gentleman, but I reluctantly admit that I would abandon my PCs for Macs if only companies wrote software for it. Until they do, I gotta keep running XP. Parents, save yourself a lot of headaches - Buy a mac for work and a game console for games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering where PC and Mac folks met to duke it out. Now I know. For any of you who are confused, let me summarize my lifetime battle with both. I started out with Apple from the very beginning &#8211; buying one of the first 100 Apple IIs to teach high school students. Then in the early to mid 80s, Apple closed its architecture and IBM opened theirs. Apple Lisa &#8211; oh man what a painful venture. By then I had a computer store and was delighted to watch Apple get knocked off of its high horse as schools started learning that they could actually do work with a PC.and that parents weren&#8217;t buying Apple boxes. But low and behold, I had kids, and school projects, and friends that wanted videos turned into DVDs. So although I&#8217;ve been in IT for years, and almost always PC shops, I bought a G5 iMac and suddenly all the schoolwork, movies, photo albums, and DVDs get done in record time with spectacular results. No more fighting with Adobe Premier or Microsoft Movie. We  still game on the 5 XP machines I own (we have to), but now we are seriously considering replacing the machine I am on now with an Intel based 23 inch iMac so we can get the best of both worlds. It is still a PC world out there ladies and gentleman, but I reluctantly admit that I would abandon my PCs for Macs if only companies wrote software for it. Until they do, I gotta keep running XP. Parents, save yourself a lot of headaches &#8211; Buy a mac for work and a game console for games.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren the Ghoti</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-2/#comment-453603</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren the Ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23 - JB

That&#039;s what I&#039;m talkin&#039; &#039;bout. That was the rationale behind the Mac from the very beginning; it&#039;s a tool to make your work easier, not transform you into a computer expert.

But M$ &amp; Friends realized early on that there were beaucoup bucks to be made by making it difficult - thus was the billion-dollar Windows support industry born. And of course, there have always been that type of person who thinks medicine has to taste bad in order to be any good, so likewise, if a computer is too easy to use (i.e. the Mac), then it must not be a &quot;real&quot; computer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23 &#8211; JB</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talkin&#8217; &#8217;bout. That was the rationale behind the Mac from the very beginning; it&#8217;s a tool to make your work easier, not transform you into a computer expert.</p>
<p>But M$ &amp; Friends realized early on that there were beaucoup bucks to be made by making it difficult &#8211; thus was the billion-dollar Windows support industry born. And of course, there have always been that type of person who thinks medicine has to taste bad in order to be any good, so likewise, if a computer is too easy to use (i.e. the Mac), then it must not be a &#8220;real&#8221; computer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-2/#comment-453549</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ask again, what is spyware? why do you have it and I don&#039;t? hmmmm. I maybe losing countless hours daily getting rid of it, yet I am not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ask again, what is spyware? why do you have it and I don&#8217;t? hmmmm. I maybe losing countless hours daily getting rid of it, yet I am not.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-2/#comment-453508</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be a pc support technician. I bought my first mac a few months ago. It&#039;s a strange feeling to get on the computer and actually get something done with minimal fuss - I actually have more time to do other things. I now recommend macs to anyone who comes to me with a pc issue. It&#039;s much cheaper than paying me hundreds of dollars every few months to clean malware off of a pc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a pc support technician. I bought my first mac a few months ago. It&#8217;s a strange feeling to get on the computer and actually get something done with minimal fuss &#8211; I actually have more time to do other things. I now recommend macs to anyone who comes to me with a pc issue. It&#8217;s much cheaper than paying me hundreds of dollars every few months to clean malware off of a pc.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-2/#comment-453124</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spyware is the thing that owns your PC at the moment, unless you are running anti spyware software....and if you are running unti spyware software...you know all about spyware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spyware is the thing that owns your PC at the moment, unless you are running anti spyware software&#8230;.and if you are running unti spyware software&#8230;you know all about spyware.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-2/#comment-452858</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t know how people complaint about spyware, I really don&#039;t know what that is.

...but to my point. Behold! your transformation into a very efficient PC clone is total now. You run Windows faster than OSX. And your fanboys have not detected the conversion. You can be proud, my grasshopper.

I didn&#039;t write young grasshopper because steve jobs is way past young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t know how people complaint about spyware, I really don&#8217;t know what that is.</p>
<p>&#8230;but to my point. Behold! your transformation into a very efficient PC clone is total now. You run Windows faster than OSX. And your fanboys have not detected the conversion. You can be proud, my grasshopper.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t write young grasshopper because steve jobs is way past young.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren the Ghoti</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-452837</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren the Ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 - Omar -

Well, Omar, I&#039;ve used PCs since &#039;82 up til &#039;00. I&#039;ve used Macs since &#039;84. In 23 years, I&#039;ve always had at least one Mac; I sold the last PC I owned in &#039;99, when I snapped that it failed my personal cost / benefit analysis. If I were a gamer, other than the Sims and the Myst series, I&#039;d probably have an XP box, but 7 years of freedom from virus worries, spyware, the endless stream of patches..., and, of course, everyone&#039;s favorite computing phenomenon, the BSOD. It&#039;s like living in an alternate universe, not having to even think about those things. My Macs work without crashing, they&#039;re secure, and there&#039;s no drudgery involved with using them.

So, like most people who have long experience with both platforms, I went with the Mac. When I get my first Intel Mac, I&#039;ll run Parallels - but so I can run x86 Solaris, not Windows.

One simple observation, make of it what you will; I&#039;ve built PCs, trained users and done end-user Windows and Mac support for quite a long time. A good number of people along the way have told me  how much they hate computers, how they use &#039;em only because they have to, that they can&#039;t fathom those other people who actually  enjoy the damn things. Virtually all of those people were Win users who had never used a Mac. Like I said, make of that what you will.

Here&#039;s a fact that has never changed: Windows users switch to Macs allatime; Mac users very, &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; rarely switch to Windows - and of those few, a significant percentage only do it because they have to, not voluntarily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 &#8211; Omar -</p>
<p>Well, Omar, I&#8217;ve used PCs since &#8217;82 up til &#8217;00. I&#8217;ve used Macs since &#8217;84. In 23 years, I&#8217;ve always had at least one Mac; I sold the last PC I owned in &#8217;99, when I snapped that it failed my personal cost / benefit analysis. If I were a gamer, other than the Sims and the Myst series, I&#8217;d probably have an XP box, but 7 years of freedom from virus worries, spyware, the endless stream of patches&#8230;, and, of course, everyone&#8217;s favorite computing phenomenon, the BSOD. It&#8217;s like living in an alternate universe, not having to even think about those things. My Macs work without crashing, they&#8217;re secure, and there&#8217;s no drudgery involved with using them.</p>
<p>So, like most people who have long experience with both platforms, I went with the Mac. When I get my first Intel Mac, I&#8217;ll run Parallels &#8211; but so I can run x86 Solaris, not Windows.</p>
<p>One simple observation, make of it what you will; I&#8217;ve built PCs, trained users and done end-user Windows and Mac support for quite a long time. A good number of people along the way have told me  how much they hate computers, how they use &#8216;em only because they have to, that they can&#8217;t fathom those other people who actually  enjoy the damn things. Virtually all of those people were Win users who had never used a Mac. Like I said, make of that what you will.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a fact that has never changed: Windows users switch to Macs allatime; Mac users very, <i>very</i> rarely switch to Windows &#8211; and of those few, a significant percentage only do it because they have to, not voluntarily.</p>
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		<title>By: OmarThe Alien</title>
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		<dc:creator>OmarThe Alien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statement in the last paragraph is me, just flipped. My whole computing life has been Windows, it works for me, I&#039;m comfortable in it, I record multitrack music, I do web design, I animate and all without excessive fuss. I build my own computers, so the occasional problem is quickly solved. But I would never extoll the virtues of the Windows platform over that of a Mac as I&#039;ve never even so much as touched a Mac, therefore I lack the data to compare the two platforms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statement in the last paragraph is me, just flipped. My whole computing life has been Windows, it works for me, I&#8217;m comfortable in it, I record multitrack music, I do web design, I animate and all without excessive fuss. I build my own computers, so the occasional problem is quickly solved. But I would never extoll the virtues of the Windows platform over that of a Mac as I&#8217;ve never even so much as touched a Mac, therefore I lack the data to compare the two platforms.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren the Ghoti</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-452691</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren the Ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 - pedro

Thassright! Now your Win installation can become spyware-infested at blinding speed! Think of the time you&#039;ll save on your daily critical security patches and virus scans! Hell, you might even have time left over to run applications!  :)

---------

#14 - GregA

&quot;Is it me or does the osx theme look all playskool compared to the vista theme?&quot;

Yeah, it&#039;s you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 &#8211; pedro</p>
<p>Thassright! Now your Win installation can become spyware-infested at blinding speed! Think of the time you&#8217;ll save on your daily critical security patches and virus scans! Hell, you might even have time left over to run applications!  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>#14 &#8211; GregA</p>
<p>&#8220;Is it me or does the osx theme look all playskool compared to the vista theme?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s you.</p>
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		<title>By: miamiguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>miamiguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with #15 100%! Alienware!??!!!!! Pure garbage unless you are into endless tech support hell, machines delivered DOA and on and on- Best Buy in South Florida stopped carrying them because they could not keep up with complaints...I could go on &amp; on &amp; on &amp; on....please please please listen-
BUYER BEWARE

otherwise,
Peace :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with #15 100%! Alienware!??!!!!! Pure garbage unless you are into endless tech support hell, machines delivered DOA and on and on- Best Buy in South Florida stopped carrying them because they could not keep up with complaints&#8230;I could go on &amp; on &amp; on &amp; on&#8230;.please please please listen-<br />
BUYER BEWARE</p>
<p>otherwise,<br />
Peace <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Billabong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-452442</link>
		<dc:creator>Billabong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also teach a monkey how to ride a bike but what is the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also teach a monkey how to ride a bike but what is the point?</p>
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		<title>By: SN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-452244</link>
		<dc:creator>SN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;It just seems to me that the sort of dated mac pros are money misspent when you can get an alien ware computer that is roughly twice and fast as that mac pro for the same amount of money as the mac pro.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Or rather than buy a piece of crap Alienware you could build your own and save even more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;It just seems to me that the sort of dated mac pros are money misspent when you can get an alien ware computer that is roughly twice and fast as that mac pro for the same amount of money as the mac pro.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Or rather than buy a piece of crap Alienware you could build your own and save even more money.</p>
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		<title>By: GregA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-452224</link>
		<dc:creator>GregA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just seems to me that the sort of dated mac pros are money misspent when you can get an alien ware computer that is roughly twice and fast as that mac pro for the same amount of money as the mac pro.  Nevermind, 4x as much memory, and about 10x faster on the video bus.

That and even cult of mac people admit that vista now has a better eye candy than osx.

Is it me or does the osx theme look all playskool compared to the vista theme?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just seems to me that the sort of dated mac pros are money misspent when you can get an alien ware computer that is roughly twice and fast as that mac pro for the same amount of money as the mac pro.  Nevermind, 4x as much memory, and about 10x faster on the video bus.</p>
<p>That and even cult of mac people admit that vista now has a better eye candy than osx.</p>
<p>Is it me or does the osx theme look all playskool compared to the vista theme?</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-452201</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vista runs faster on a mac than osx.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vista runs faster on a mac than osx.</p>
<p>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/01/29/running-vista-on-a-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-452181</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a good laugh out of the notion Vista is somehow better looking and faster than OS X, when you can apply themes to both OS X and XP to make it look just like Windows.

Chances are, this genius hasn&#039;t realized he can turn up the speed in which folders are opened under OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a good laugh out of the notion Vista is somehow better looking and faster than OS X, when you can apply themes to both OS X and XP to make it look just like Windows.</p>
<p>Chances are, this genius hasn&#8217;t realized he can turn up the speed in which folders are opened under OS X.</p>
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