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	<title>Comments on: DC traffic cameras are catching off-duty cops, now they want to be exempt from the tickets!</title>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-2/#comment-516447</link>
		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cops are PIGS!  Emergency or not, they should get a ticket, or else use a marked car with lights, etc to break the laws and make other aware!  PIGS don&#039;t deserve any exemptions in my opinions.  We should perhaps spend our time fighting the system or using traffic cameras or red light cameras at all, rather than arguing about this exemption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cops are PIGS!  Emergency or not, they should get a ticket, or else use a marked car with lights, etc to break the laws and make other aware!  PIGS don&#8217;t deserve any exemptions in my opinions.  We should perhaps spend our time fighting the system or using traffic cameras or red light cameras at all, rather than arguing about this exemption.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-2/#comment-496046</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23, 
&lt;i&gt;I also noticed SN doesn’t have the balls to jump in here and defend himself. That’s because he knows he’s wrong. I’m sure it won’t be the last time. &lt;/i&gt;
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Comment by GaryInMiami — 2/26/2007 @ 10:06 am 

No, more like SN is having dinner, playing with his kids, taking out the garbage, reading / writing a brief, or anyone of the myriad of things a normal guy has to do.

***

I met our Sheriff at lunch today and mentioned this post. He told me about two weeks after the election, and warning his deputies about speeding, he caught a deputy at the end of his shift speeding back to the station. Wrote him a ticket. An hour later, in the exact same spot, the Sheriff stopped him again and wrote him another ticket, this time while the deputy was off duty.

Yes, all the deputies have radios in their personal cars and are expected to respond in an emergency. They are also issued cell phones and must notify their superior if they will be out of the county when off shift. 

I like our new Sheriff. Cool guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23,<br />
<i>I also noticed SN doesn’t have the balls to jump in here and defend himself. That’s because he knows he’s wrong. I’m sure it won’t be the last time. </i><br />
&#8230;<br />
Comment by GaryInMiami — 2/26/2007 @ 10:06 am </p>
<p>No, more like SN is having dinner, playing with his kids, taking out the garbage, reading / writing a brief, or anyone of the myriad of things a normal guy has to do.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>I met our Sheriff at lunch today and mentioned this post. He told me about two weeks after the election, and warning his deputies about speeding, he caught a deputy at the end of his shift speeding back to the station. Wrote him a ticket. An hour later, in the exact same spot, the Sheriff stopped him again and wrote him another ticket, this time while the deputy was off duty.</p>
<p>Yes, all the deputies have radios in their personal cars and are expected to respond in an emergency. They are also issued cell phones and must notify their superior if they will be out of the county when off shift. </p>
<p>I like our new Sheriff. Cool guy.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryInMiami</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-2/#comment-495616</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryInMiami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Lauren. It&#039;s nice to know there&#039;s at least one other person here who&#039;s an adult.

BTW, I agree with you about ticketing cops who are speeding while on-duty but not on a call. Perhaps they should be treated even more harshly than us regular citizens. It&#039;ll never happen but it&#039;s nice to dream.

I also noticed SN doesn&#039;t have the balls to jump in here and defend himself. That&#039;s because he knows he&#039;s wrong. I&#039;m sure it won&#039;t be the last time.

I&#039;m listening to John on TWiT now. You should take some lessons from your mentor SN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lauren. It&#8217;s nice to know there&#8217;s at least one other person here who&#8217;s an adult.</p>
<p>BTW, I agree with you about ticketing cops who are speeding while on-duty but not on a call. Perhaps they should be treated even more harshly than us regular citizens. It&#8217;ll never happen but it&#8217;s nice to dream.</p>
<p>I also noticed SN doesn&#8217;t have the balls to jump in here and defend himself. That&#8217;s because he knows he&#8217;s wrong. I&#8217;m sure it won&#8217;t be the last time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m listening to John on TWiT now. You should take some lessons from your mentor SN.</p>
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		<title>By: Roc Rizzo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-2/#comment-495574</link>
		<dc:creator>Roc Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you people know that the police don&#039;t have to obey the law, because they *are* the law.  So says most of the police that I am in contact with daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you people know that the police don&#8217;t have to obey the law, because they *are* the law.  So says most of the police that I am in contact with daily.</p>
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		<title>By: Noam Sane</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-2/#comment-495487</link>
		<dc:creator>Noam Sane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, 20 comments and not a single donut joke. Impressive.

&lt;i&gt;Supposedly in a democracy every one obeys the law, even presidents.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah. Supposedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 20 comments and not a single donut joke. Impressive.</p>
<p><i>Supposedly in a democracy every one obeys the law, even presidents.</i></p>
<p>Yeah. Supposedly.</p>
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		<title>By: Grrr</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-495411</link>
		<dc:creator>Grrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with #2. And on-duty cops don&#039;t deserve a pass - unless they&#039;re responding to an emergency. If they&#039;re on-duty and responding to a non-emergency it would be nice if they obeyed the laws they&#039;re sworn to uphold. (I can dream...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with #2. And on-duty cops don&#8217;t deserve a pass &#8211; unless they&#8217;re responding to an emergency. If they&#8217;re on-duty and responding to a non-emergency it would be nice if they obeyed the laws they&#8217;re sworn to uphold. (I can dream&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494953</link>
		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Police cars have lights and sirens to warn other drivers to move out of the way of their speeding vehicle and to run red lights.  If they don&#039;t have lights blaring and sirens on then they should not create a public hazard by speeding or running red lights, period.

Enough with this two tier society.  Supposedly in a democracy every one obeys the law, even presidents.  Enough with the excuses and exceptions.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police cars have lights and sirens to warn other drivers to move out of the way of their speeding vehicle and to run red lights.  If they don&#8217;t have lights blaring and sirens on then they should not create a public hazard by speeding or running red lights, period.</p>
<p>Enough with this two tier society.  Supposedly in a democracy every one obeys the law, even presidents.  Enough with the excuses and exceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494947</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SN 
We don&#039;t agree on global warming but I agree with you all the way on this one.       </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SN<br />
We don&#8217;t agree on global warming but I agree with you all the way on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren the Ghoti</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494918</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren the Ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GaryInMiami and SN -

I think you guys have been talking past each other.

SN, when Gary said the article was about on-duty cops, he was right - that&#039;s what it&#039;s about. So when he pointed that out to you, you kept referring to &quot;...driving their own cars, without any lights or sirens...&quot; - but that&#039;s not who got the tickets! When they talk about proving their innocence with radio logs, that means they were on-duty. They don&#039;t have radios in their private cars - and they don&#039;t get radio calls when they&#039;re off-duty...

If you&#039;re saying that they should be ticketed even on-duty if they&#039;re not on a call, I agree with you 110%... but even you must admit that if those fucking cameras are creating a stream of tickets for cops who are legitimately on emergency calls, that would be a genuine, unjustified pain in the ass, am I right??

- - - -

And on your response to my post there - &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;“When I see a cop, in the middle of the night, with no one watching, stop at a red light and wait…”&lt;/i&gt;

You’ve actually seen this?! Wow, have you ever seen a yeti or the loch ness monster?!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, truly - and more than once - and in, of all the unlikely places, Houston... how&#039;s them apples?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GaryInMiami and SN -</p>
<p>I think you guys have been talking past each other.</p>
<p>SN, when Gary said the article was about on-duty cops, he was right &#8211; that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s about. So when he pointed that out to you, you kept referring to &#8220;&#8230;driving their own cars, without any lights or sirens&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; but that&#8217;s not who got the tickets! When they talk about proving their innocence with radio logs, that means they were on-duty. They don&#8217;t have radios in their private cars &#8211; and they don&#8217;t get radio calls when they&#8217;re off-duty&#8230;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re saying that they should be ticketed even on-duty if they&#8217;re not on a call, I agree with you 110%&#8230; but even you must admit that if those fucking cameras are creating a stream of tickets for cops who are legitimately on emergency calls, that would be a genuine, unjustified pain in the ass, am I right??</p>
<p>- &#8211; - -</p>
<p>And on your response to my post there &#8211;<br />
<blockquote><i>“When I see a cop, in the middle of the night, with no one watching, stop at a red light and wait…”</i></p>
<p>You’ve actually seen this?! Wow, have you ever seen a yeti or the loch ness monster?!</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, truly &#8211; and more than once &#8211; and in, of all the unlikely places, Houston&#8230; how&#8217;s them apples?  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PBFT</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494829</link>
		<dc:creator>PBFT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how many cops rush to an emergency when they are off duty?  They are supposed to be carrying their weapon off duty as well.  I doubt that they are rushing to any emergencies when there are other colleagues working on duty.  If all of the police were on call 24 hours then we wouldn&#039;t need as many.  I don&#039;t begrudge them wanting a life outside of police work but looking for an exemption from traffic violations is BS.  If they had any brains then they would use it as an excuse why they shouldn&#039;t have to help with emergencies and the city needs to hire more cops.  Pretend like it&#039;s a safety issue.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how many cops rush to an emergency when they are off duty?  They are supposed to be carrying their weapon off duty as well.  I doubt that they are rushing to any emergencies when there are other colleagues working on duty.  If all of the police were on call 24 hours then we wouldn&#8217;t need as many.  I don&#8217;t begrudge them wanting a life outside of police work but looking for an exemption from traffic violations is BS.  If they had any brains then they would use it as an excuse why they shouldn&#8217;t have to help with emergencies and the city needs to hire more cops.  Pretend like it&#8217;s a safety issue.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryInMiami</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494827</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryInMiami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SN, it&#039;s a complete waste of my time to debate someone who misrepresents the story he himself posted and then goes on to act like a child repeating the same thing over and over as if doing so will somehow make it true. It won&#039;t. I&#039;m outta here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SN, it&#8217;s a complete waste of my time to debate someone who misrepresents the story he himself posted and then goes on to act like a child repeating the same thing over and over as if doing so will somehow make it true. It won&#8217;t. I&#8217;m outta here.</p>
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		<title>By: Groovin!</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494817</link>
		<dc:creator>Groovin!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love this (trying something, if you don&#039;t see a graphic, go to http://www.bumperart.com/ProductImages/2004011169_Display-25.gif):



&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.woot.com&quot; title=&quot;W00T!!&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Great fun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love this (trying something, if you don&#8217;t see a graphic, go to <a href="http://www.bumperart.com/ProductImages/2004011169_Display-25.gif" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.bumperart.com/ProductImages/2004011169_Display-25.gif' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.bumperart.com/ProductImages/2004011169_Display-25.gif</a>):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.woot.com" title="W00T!!" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a></p>
<p>Great fun&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Groovin!</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494816</link>
		<dc:creator>Groovin!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love this:



&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.woot.com&quot; title=&quot;W00T!!&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.woot.com" title="W00T!!" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><br />
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		<title>By: eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494750</link>
		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little story about off duty officers--An RX7 in front of me came to a complete stop in the middle of the road.  I could see that the driver was turned and looking at a large dog inside a fenced yard.  Since the driver had completely stopped, I pulled around him on the right, crossing a double yellow line in the process.  He starts chasing me in his car, waving his fist at me, driving dangerously close to my bumper.  Being a peace loving citizen, I felt no need to confront him, and headed quickly (speeding) toward the nearest police station.  Seeing a police car, I was relieved to see him pull out to pull us over.  Apparently the RX7 driver was an off duty cop who wanted me ticketed for crossing a double yellow.  Naturally, coming to a complete stop in a road without signaling was no problem, nor was giving chase in a neighborhood, or acting like the king of road rage.  So after they (the on duty officer and the off duty officer) decided not to arrest me, I got ticketed for crossing the double yellow line.  On my way home from church no less!  

I commend these machines for their fair and balanced behavior.  And another musing, who speeds when driving on the clock anyway?  Not me, and probably not police officers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little story about off duty officers&#8211;An RX7 in front of me came to a complete stop in the middle of the road.  I could see that the driver was turned and looking at a large dog inside a fenced yard.  Since the driver had completely stopped, I pulled around him on the right, crossing a double yellow line in the process.  He starts chasing me in his car, waving his fist at me, driving dangerously close to my bumper.  Being a peace loving citizen, I felt no need to confront him, and headed quickly (speeding) toward the nearest police station.  Seeing a police car, I was relieved to see him pull out to pull us over.  Apparently the RX7 driver was an off duty cop who wanted me ticketed for crossing a double yellow.  Naturally, coming to a complete stop in a road without signaling was no problem, nor was giving chase in a neighborhood, or acting like the king of road rage.  So after they (the on duty officer and the off duty officer) decided not to arrest me, I got ticketed for crossing the double yellow line.  On my way home from church no less!  </p>
<p>I commend these machines for their fair and balanced behavior.  And another musing, who speeds when driving on the clock anyway?  Not me, and probably not police officers.</p>
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		<title>By: SN</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/02/25/dc-speed-cameras-are-catching-off-duty-cops-now-they-want-to-be-exempt-from-the-tickets/comment-page-1/#comment-494721</link>
		<dc:creator>SN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;they’re also busting police rushing to respond to emergencies&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ll say it again...

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is a system set up for people who are given unjustified tickets. It’s called traffic court. If these cops truly have justification for driving their own cars, without any lights or sirens, through red lights or above the speed limit, the courts can deal with it in an open and public manner. I see no reason for the police to have their own private and internal system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&quot;So what you’re trying to do is confuse the issues.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Nope, I&#039;m living in reality.  You&#039;re living in a delusional dream world.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;If they’re on-duty and, let’s say speeding to your house because you heard a burglar downstairs, they do not deserve a ticket.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ll say it yet again....



&lt;blockquote&gt;There is a system set up for people who are given unjustified tickets. It’s called traffic court. If these cops truly have justification for driving their own cars, without any lights or sirens, through red lights or above the speed limit, the courts can deal with it in an open and public manner. I see no reason for the police to have their own private and internal system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&quot;The article is referring to cops on duty and you’re referring to cops off-duty. You can’t have it both ways&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ll say it yet again...

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is a system set up for people who are given unjustified tickets. It’s called traffic court. If these cops truly have justification for driving their own cars, without any lights or sirens, through red lights or above the speed limit, the courts can deal with it in an open and public manner. I see no reason for the police to have their own private and internal system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How many cops in Baltimore get away without paying for legitimate traffic tickets with their closed internal system?  Answer: We don&#039;t know because it&#039;s a closed internal system with cops helping other cops.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;they’re also busting police rushing to respond to emergencies&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it again&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>There is a system set up for people who are given unjustified tickets. It’s called traffic court. If these cops truly have justification for driving their own cars, without any lights or sirens, through red lights or above the speed limit, the courts can deal with it in an open and public manner. I see no reason for the police to have their own private and internal system.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>&#8220;So what you’re trying to do is confuse the issues.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Nope, I&#8217;m living in reality.  You&#8217;re living in a delusional dream world.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;If they’re on-duty and, let’s say speeding to your house because you heard a burglar downstairs, they do not deserve a ticket.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it yet again&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p>There is a system set up for people who are given unjustified tickets. It’s called traffic court. If these cops truly have justification for driving their own cars, without any lights or sirens, through red lights or above the speed limit, the courts can deal with it in an open and public manner. I see no reason for the police to have their own private and internal system.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>&#8220;The article is referring to cops on duty and you’re referring to cops off-duty. You can’t have it both ways&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll say it yet again&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>There is a system set up for people who are given unjustified tickets. It’s called traffic court. If these cops truly have justification for driving their own cars, without any lights or sirens, through red lights or above the speed limit, the courts can deal with it in an open and public manner. I see no reason for the police to have their own private and internal system.</p></blockquote>
<p>How many cops in Baltimore get away without paying for legitimate traffic tickets with their closed internal system?  Answer: We don&#8217;t know because it&#8217;s a closed internal system with cops helping other cops.</p>
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