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	<title>Comments on: Phentermine Scam Continues Unabated</title>
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		<title>By: Veryniceblonde</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-1409043</link>
		<dc:creator>Veryniceblonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reasons for not mixing the two drugs was clear years ago. Phentermine is no longer prescribed in Canada and I would like to know why. I have M.S and there is not much out there to help me battle the fatigue I used to take 1 capsule of phentermine and when they removed it the doctors were forced to find alternatives for me 3 different drugs to replace the one. I want to know why it was banned I have never been told or read anything that gives a reason to take the drug off the market</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reasons for not mixing the two drugs was clear years ago. Phentermine is no longer prescribed in Canada and I would like to know why. I have M.S and there is not much out there to help me battle the fatigue I used to take 1 capsule of phentermine and when they removed it the doctors were forced to find alternatives for me 3 different drugs to replace the one. I want to know why it was banned I have never been told or read anything that gives a reason to take the drug off the market</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-529135</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as I can delete it . . . .its the viruses that piss me off.  I&#039;m a long way from a chemist, but I play one, on TV.  Actually,.  I believe the ephedrine sysnthesis is wrong.  Ephedrine is methamphetamine, with an extra -OH molecule that prevents it from getting past the blood-brain barrier.   Bathtub chemists knock that molecule  off with a variety of methods, but the end result is always methamphetamine.  Dextroamphetamine sulphate (dexidrine), and the other amphetamines, are more complicated, and use a different method .. . .I can&#039;t swear to that, but I&#039;m pretty sure . . and  thanx for the anti-spam tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as I can delete it . . . .its the viruses that piss me off.  I&#8217;m a long way from a chemist, but I play one, on TV.  Actually,.  I believe the ephedrine sysnthesis is wrong.  Ephedrine is methamphetamine, with an extra -OH molecule that prevents it from getting past the blood-brain barrier.   Bathtub chemists knock that molecule  off with a variety of methods, but the end result is always methamphetamine.  Dextroamphetamine sulphate (dexidrine), and the other amphetamines, are more complicated, and use a different method .. . .I can&#8217;t swear to that, but I&#8217;m pretty sure . . and  thanx for the anti-spam tip.</p>
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		<title>By: OmarThe Alien</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-521544</link>
		<dc:creator>OmarThe Alien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coca-Cola used to have a smidgen of cocaine, that&#039;s why it was so damned popular, and thirty-five years ago when I was a long haul trucker we all knew the truckstops that sold our favorite little pills out by the tire shop or somewhere. I was a happy trucker, blowing out radio speakers and smoking about a pack of Pall Malls every hundred miles or so. But then I&#039;d want to pop one or two when I didn&#039;t have anywhere to go, and then I took a long look at some of my buddies, still young and looked like walking death, so I weaned myself off the pills and found something else to haul, something that didn&#039;t rot if you didn&#039;t get it from south Florida to the Hunt&#039;s Point market (NYC) in twenty hours. And this was in the seventies, I-95 was a long way from finished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coca-Cola used to have a smidgen of cocaine, that&#8217;s why it was so damned popular, and thirty-five years ago when I was a long haul trucker we all knew the truckstops that sold our favorite little pills out by the tire shop or somewhere. I was a happy trucker, blowing out radio speakers and smoking about a pack of Pall Malls every hundred miles or so. But then I&#8217;d want to pop one or two when I didn&#8217;t have anywhere to go, and then I took a long look at some of my buddies, still young and looked like walking death, so I weaned myself off the pills and found something else to haul, something that didn&#8217;t rot if you didn&#8217;t get it from south Florida to the Hunt&#8217;s Point market (NYC) in twenty hours. And this was in the seventies, I-95 was a long way from finished.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Brill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-521411</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Brill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem we are faced with is the drugs are being marketed and sold against the law. and yes you can get buzzing with &quot;Ionomin&quot;, &quot;apidex&quot;, chemical name Phentermine.  
Johns referring to the &quot;can span act&quot; . in addition
In order to purchase the a narcotic in the united states you need a legitimate prescription.
The drugs that are being marketed via e-mails and they are nothing short of dangerous.
Redux was taken off the market because it was killing people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem we are faced with is the drugs are being marketed and sold against the law. and yes you can get buzzing with &#8220;Ionomin&#8221;, &#8220;apidex&#8221;, chemical name Phentermine.<br />
Johns referring to the &#8220;can span act&#8221; . in addition<br />
In order to purchase the a narcotic in the united states you need a legitimate prescription.<br />
The drugs that are being marketed via e-mails and they are nothing short of dangerous.<br />
Redux was taken off the market because it was killing people.</p>
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		<title>By: TJGeezer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-521346</link>
		<dc:creator>TJGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Psst! Club drugs here - Roofies... grass... dried snot... &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Psst! Club drugs here &#8211; Roofies&#8230; grass&#8230; dried snot&#8230; </i></p>
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		<title>By: meetsy</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-521211</link>
		<dc:creator>meetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geez, John, you&#039;re off the mark on this one.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine
It&#039;s near impossible to get &quot;high&quot; on the stuff...it&#039;s about as interesting as an antihistamine.  It is, in fact, almost like one. It&#039;s been on the market since 1959...so, not like it&#039;s something &quot;new&quot;.  It gives some diet help, although one wonders how effective it is, as it also has the drying effect of an antihistamine -- so you could drink way more calories in liquids. It does lower the appetite.  However, since most people (in our culture) are actually &quot;habit&quot; eaters, this doesn&#039;t do that much for them. 
 I know women who take Sudafed to control their appetite, too, and women who use Preparation H as wrinkle cream. So what?  We&#039;re a vain society...if someone thinks that anything will help with them losing weight...then they&#039;ll buy it. Lets face it, docs aren&#039;t exactly affordable, and &quot;talking to your family doctor&quot; is a thing of the past. 
   The fact you are getting spammed with this....well, I&#039;m sure you get the woody-inducing pills, the magic &quot;grow bigger dick&quot; and the boobie enhancers, and the occasional Nigerian Scam letter, too.   Doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not a valid product, just means that people are trying to make money selling what they SAY are drugs, when they are probably capsules filled with dried snot. 
    Calm down, John.  Take a chill pill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geez, John, you&#8217;re off the mark on this one.<br />
  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phentermine</a><br />
It&#8217;s near impossible to get &#8220;high&#8221; on the stuff&#8230;it&#8217;s about as interesting as an antihistamine.  It is, in fact, almost like one. It&#8217;s been on the market since 1959&#8230;so, not like it&#8217;s something &#8220;new&#8221;.  It gives some diet help, although one wonders how effective it is, as it also has the drying effect of an antihistamine &#8212; so you could drink way more calories in liquids. It does lower the appetite.  However, since most people (in our culture) are actually &#8220;habit&#8221; eaters, this doesn&#8217;t do that much for them.<br />
 I know women who take Sudafed to control their appetite, too, and women who use Preparation H as wrinkle cream. So what?  We&#8217;re a vain society&#8230;if someone thinks that anything will help with them losing weight&#8230;then they&#8217;ll buy it. Lets face it, docs aren&#8217;t exactly affordable, and &#8220;talking to your family doctor&#8221; is a thing of the past.<br />
   The fact you are getting spammed with this&#8230;.well, I&#8217;m sure you get the woody-inducing pills, the magic &#8220;grow bigger dick&#8221; and the boobie enhancers, and the occasional Nigerian Scam letter, too.   Doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not a valid product, just means that people are trying to make money selling what they SAY are drugs, when they are probably capsules filled with dried snot.<br />
    Calm down, John.  Take a chill pill.</p>
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		<title>By: hhopper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-521157</link>
		<dc:creator>hhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has to be a way to make spam backfire on the spammers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has to be a way to make spam backfire on the spammers.</p>
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		<title>By: John C Dvorak</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-521062</link>
		<dc:creator>John C Dvorak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with the word press blog...SpamKarma is the key</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with the word press blog&#8230;SpamKarma is the key</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John wrote: &quot;Luckily there are all sorts of tools to help you.&quot;

C&#039;mon John, spill the beans. For those of us with blogs (or about to set one up, as I am), how about some help? Could you list the top tools you are successfully using so we can avoid this kindof crap?

T&#039;would really be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John wrote: &#8220;Luckily there are all sorts of tools to help you.&#8221;</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon John, spill the beans. For those of us with blogs (or about to set one up, as I am), how about some help? Could you list the top tools you are successfully using so we can avoid this kindof crap?</p>
<p>T&#8217;would really be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: John C Dvorak</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-520869</link>
		<dc:creator>John C Dvorak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 I have said this repeatedly. I get NO EMAIL SPAM. Blog spam is another matter and not under the control of my spam-fighting email system done by Marc Perkel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 I have said this repeatedly. I get NO EMAIL SPAM. Blog spam is another matter and not under the control of my spam-fighting email system done by Marc Perkel.</p>
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		<title>By: TJGeezer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-520744</link>
		<dc:creator>TJGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At my age the quacks have me on way too many meds - drugs - bioactive substances - already. Metabolic whack-a-mole. Why people want to put this crap in their systems when they don&#039;t have to... jeez, if you wanna get jittery, drink an extra pot of coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At my age the quacks have me on way too many meds &#8211; drugs &#8211; bioactive substances &#8211; already. Metabolic whack-a-mole. Why people want to put this crap in their systems when they don&#8217;t have to&#8230; jeez, if you wanna get jittery, drink an extra pot of coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Mayne</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-520559</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Mayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand all of this.  I remember hearing you  say repeatedly 

&quot;I get no Spam&quot;

Has the world slipped off its axis!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand all of this.  I remember hearing you  say repeatedly </p>
<p>&#8220;I get no Spam&#8221;</p>
<p>Has the world slipped off its axis!?</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-520442</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phen-Fen (or whatever it&#039;s called) killed my Uncle.  What we need is a virus that crawls up the IP of these spammers and fries their motherboards.  We could give &#039;em a Phen-Fen they actually deserve.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phen-Fen (or whatever it&#8217;s called) killed my Uncle.  What we need is a virus that crawls up the IP of these spammers and fries their motherboards.  We could give &#8216;em a Phen-Fen they actually deserve&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Brill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/11/phentermine-scam-continues-unabated/comment-page-1/#comment-520251</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Brill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the drug delivers the euphoria that you get with pure amphetamines. 
The drug came out along time ago. its structurally similar to amphetamines but not an amphetamine. 

Dexi&#039;s are DextroAmphetamine and Bennies are a trademark for amphetamine both are sulphates. The compounds are synthesized from Over the counter ephedrine. And deliver a nice euphoric high similar to Coke.
Addicts love and crave it

Amphetamines are CII narcotics and the most powerful of the class Metha Amphetamine which is a C1 Narcotic which basically means its out lawed in the USA the same a heroin which is also a C1 Narcotic.
Way too addictive... 
Phentermine is a C4 class Narcotic. also a central nervous system stimulant. just not as habit forming
 
The other ingrediant in Phen Phen (redux) was prozac
Regardless Sale of &quot;Phentermine&quot; in the United states is illegal with out a prescription. 
Not a good drug to experiment with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the drug delivers the euphoria that you get with pure amphetamines.<br />
The drug came out along time ago. its structurally similar to amphetamines but not an amphetamine. </p>
<p>Dexi&#8217;s are DextroAmphetamine and Bennies are a trademark for amphetamine both are sulphates. The compounds are synthesized from Over the counter ephedrine. And deliver a nice euphoric high similar to Coke.<br />
Addicts love and crave it</p>
<p>Amphetamines are CII narcotics and the most powerful of the class Metha Amphetamine which is a C1 Narcotic which basically means its out lawed in the USA the same a heroin which is also a C1 Narcotic.<br />
Way too addictive&#8230;<br />
Phentermine is a C4 class Narcotic. also a central nervous system stimulant. just not as habit forming</p>
<p>The other ingrediant in Phen Phen (redux) was prozac<br />
Regardless Sale of &#8220;Phentermine&#8221; in the United states is illegal with out a prescription.<br />
Not a good drug to experiment with.</p>
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