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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Bong Hits 4 Jesus&#8221; Reaches The Supreme Court</title>
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		<title>By: chelsea</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/18/bong-hits-4-jesus-reaches-the-supreme-court/comment-page-2/#comment-697728</link>
		<dc:creator>chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares if someone gets offended.  Thats not what freedom of speech is.  It&#039;s the right to say what you believe.  Guess what I don&#039;t like the KKK, but if they want to they have every right to say what they believe.  Just because some people get offended doesn&#039;t mean it should be considered wrong.  Everyone is different and believes different things.  You can&#039;t spend your whole life trying to please everyone.  Who cares what the banner said thats besides the point.  What matters is the fact we have the right (or I guess we don&#039;t anymore) to say what we want.  People need to just lighten up.  FUCK JESUS LOVE HITLER.  See that&#039;s going to piss a lot of people off but I have every right to say it without going to court. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares if someone gets offended.  Thats not what freedom of speech is.  It&#8217;s the right to say what you believe.  Guess what I don&#8217;t like the KKK, but if they want to they have every right to say what they believe.  Just because some people get offended doesn&#8217;t mean it should be considered wrong.  Everyone is different and believes different things.  You can&#8217;t spend your whole life trying to please everyone.  Who cares what the banner said thats besides the point.  What matters is the fact we have the right (or I guess we don&#8217;t anymore) to say what we want.  People need to just lighten up.  FUCK JESUS LOVE HITLER.  See that&#8217;s going to piss a lot of people off but I have every right to say it without going to court.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&lt;i&gt;but neither you nor anyone else has any right to be free from things that offend you. &lt;/i&gt;

Damn right. Geeze, I was at this guy&#039;s place tonight and he cut some cheese. You know, passed wind. Uuhh, he let the ole toothless wonder spake. He Ripped One, HE FARTED for Christ&#039;s sake. And it was bad. I was offended. Oh boy was it bad. Those effen Irish with their damned cabbage and corned beef.

But you know, he was a white guy and it looked like he was Catholic, so I just let it ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;<i>but neither you nor anyone else has any right to be free from things that offend you. </i></p>
<p>Damn right. Geeze, I was at this guy&#8217;s place tonight and he cut some cheese. You know, passed wind. Uuhh, he let the ole toothless wonder spake. He Ripped One, HE FARTED for Christ&#8217;s sake. And it was bad. I was offended. Oh boy was it bad. Those effen Irish with their damned cabbage and corned beef.</p>
<p>But you know, he was a white guy and it looked like he was Catholic, so I just let it ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren the Ghoti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren the Ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 - Max(?)

&quot;t’s okay for others to mock me…&quot;

Mock you? I went back and took another look at the banner, and for the life of me, I can&#039;t see your name anywhere on it!

Or is your name actually Jesus, and &#039;Max&#039; is just a nick...?

So what you&#039;re saying is - you&#039;re offended. Well, bad news, chum.

Just as those Muslims who are objected to the depictions of the Prophet were told, you need to get a grip. You see, you may, depending on where you live, have the right to say what you like - but &lt;b&gt;neither you nor anyone else has any right to be free from things that offend you.&lt;/b&gt; 

Grow up and learn to live with the fact that there are other people on this planet with the same rights as you, and some of them are bound to be offended by you, what you look like, what you say, and/or what you believe. So should they be able to silence you? No?

Then shut up and worry about the words that come out of your mouth, not anybody else&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 &#8211; Max(?)</p>
<p>&#8220;t’s okay for others to mock me…&#8221;</p>
<p>Mock you? I went back and took another look at the banner, and for the life of me, I can&#8217;t see your name anywhere on it!</p>
<p>Or is your name actually Jesus, and &#8216;Max&#8217; is just a nick&#8230;?</p>
<p>So what you&#8217;re saying is &#8211; you&#8217;re offended. Well, bad news, chum.</p>
<p>Just as those Muslims who are objected to the depictions of the Prophet were told, you need to get a grip. You see, you may, depending on where you live, have the right to say what you like &#8211; but <b>neither you nor anyone else has any right to be free from things that offend you.</b> </p>
<p>Grow up and learn to live with the fact that there are other people on this planet with the same rights as you, and some of them are bound to be offended by you, what you look like, what you say, and/or what you believe. So should they be able to silence you? No?</p>
<p>Then shut up and worry about the words that come out of your mouth, not anybody else&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/18/bong-hits-4-jesus-reaches-the-supreme-court/comment-page-2/#comment-535440</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&lt;i&gt;but what happened to the decency and respect that were so integrated into our nation’s beliefs years ago? &lt;/i&gt;

Decency and respect are only afforded to those who agree with you. It has always been practiced by the establishment that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;<i>but what happened to the decency and respect that were so integrated into our nation’s beliefs years ago? </i></p>
<p>Decency and respect are only afforded to those who agree with you. It has always been practiced by the establishment that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m offended by his banner.  Based on precedent established by the atheist, (No Christmas trees on public grounds), Feminist (the use of mankind is blatantly offensive) and Muslims (ever hear of a show called &quot;24&quot;?), I guess I should be outraged!

Oh wait - I&#039;m a white, Catholic male... I&#039;m not allowed to be offended.  It&#039;s okay for others to mock me...  

Max

Sorry - I forgot.  I&#039;ll go back to planning my vast right-wing conspiracies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m offended by his banner.  Based on precedent established by the atheist, (No Christmas trees on public grounds), Feminist (the use of mankind is blatantly offensive) and Muslims (ever hear of a show called &#8220;24&#8243;?), I guess I should be outraged!</p>
<p>Oh wait &#8211; I&#8217;m a white, Catholic male&#8230; I&#8217;m not allowed to be offended.  It&#8217;s okay for others to mock me&#8230;  </p>
<p>Max</p>
<p>Sorry &#8211; I forgot.  I&#8217;ll go back to planning my vast right-wing conspiracies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t buy the argument that this was a school function. If they were required to be there for a commercial event then they should have been paid. Because they were never paid then this was strictly voluntary. 

The school should lose, but considering the makeup of the Supreme Court, I won&#039;t hold my breath on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy the argument that this was a school function. If they were required to be there for a commercial event then they should have been paid. Because they were never paid then this was strictly voluntary. </p>
<p>The school should lose, but considering the makeup of the Supreme Court, I won&#8217;t hold my breath on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I was at lunch I happened to hear this story profiled on NPR and they interviewed Joseph Frederick. He went on to be the captain of the debating team at, I think, Stanford, and is now a teacher.  He said if one of his students did this he would discuss it with the student rather than do what his principal did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I was at lunch I happened to hear this story profiled on NPR and they interviewed Joseph Frederick. He went on to be the captain of the debating team at, I think, Stanford, and is now a teacher.  He said if one of his students did this he would discuss it with the student rather than do what his principal did.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16.  &quot;what happened to the decency and respect that were so integrated into our nation’s beliefs years ago?&quot; 

when was this?  There has always been a huge bomb-throwing element in American society, at least from Tom Paine onward.  and, yes, it always included young people - any description of a Boston mob during the years around the Revolution always included &quot;apprentices.&quot;

whether its the &#039;Bong Hits for Jesus&#039; dudes or the pro-lifers carrying pictures of aborted fetuses, inflammatory communication is as American as it gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16.  &#8220;what happened to the decency and respect that were so integrated into our nation’s beliefs years ago?&#8221; </p>
<p>when was this?  There has always been a huge bomb-throwing element in American society, at least from Tom Paine onward.  and, yes, it always included young people &#8211; any description of a Boston mob during the years around the Revolution always included &#8220;apprentices.&#8221;</p>
<p>whether its the &#8216;Bong Hits for Jesus&#8217; dudes or the pro-lifers carrying pictures of aborted fetuses, inflammatory communication is as American as it gets.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedom of speech is a right to be protected at all costs, but what happened to the decency and respect that were so integrated into our nation&#039;s beliefs years ago? I&#039;m tired of individuals trying to get attention by saying something stupid, getting in trouble for it, and then using the &quot;freedom of speech&quot; excuse. Think about the impressionable children and young adults who listen to these individuals and look up to them for making such a &quot;cool&quot; and rebellious scene. Those kids in turn, may act similar when trying to form their identity, continuing the perpetuation of the action. Compared to other cases, this one&#039;s not all that bad, but it still makes me wonder, &quot;What do the parents of this kid think of his behavior?&quot; Granted, I assume they are embarrassed with the whole situation but geez, try to raise your kids with some class. Though the last thing in an average teen&#039;s mind is their parents&#039; advice, a good up-bringing and good parent-child relationship will make your child more prone to listen to what you have to say, they may even look up to their parents! What a revelation that would be! A little off topic I know, but everyone needs to vent, eh? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedom of speech is a right to be protected at all costs, but what happened to the decency and respect that were so integrated into our nation&#8217;s beliefs years ago? I&#8217;m tired of individuals trying to get attention by saying something stupid, getting in trouble for it, and then using the &#8220;freedom of speech&#8221; excuse. Think about the impressionable children and young adults who listen to these individuals and look up to them for making such a &#8220;cool&#8221; and rebellious scene. Those kids in turn, may act similar when trying to form their identity, continuing the perpetuation of the action. Compared to other cases, this one&#8217;s not all that bad, but it still makes me wonder, &#8220;What do the parents of this kid think of his behavior?&#8221; Granted, I assume they are embarrassed with the whole situation but geez, try to raise your kids with some class. Though the last thing in an average teen&#8217;s mind is their parents&#8217; advice, a good up-bringing and good parent-child relationship will make your child more prone to listen to what you have to say, they may even look up to their parents! What a revelation that would be! A little off topic I know, but everyone needs to vent, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
I guess it depends on if they say this was a school function or not. It doesn&#039;t really matter if it was on school grounds per se. There are numerous school functions held &quot;off campus&quot; that require students to abide by school bylaws, etc.... The drug reference is what will probably give the kid the most trouble. This was essentially a school function with the kids being let out of school to attend. The band was present and playing music. Etc...

What does the kid hope to get out of this other than proving the fact that he&#039;s a dick. He&#039;s obviously got some other issues to deal with if this is the best way he can express himself to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on if they say this was a school function or not. It doesn&#8217;t really matter if it was on school grounds per se. There are numerous school functions held &#8220;off campus&#8221; that require students to abide by school bylaws, etc&#8230;. The drug reference is what will probably give the kid the most trouble. This was essentially a school function with the kids being let out of school to attend. The band was present and playing music. Etc&#8230;</p>
<p>What does the kid hope to get out of this other than proving the fact that he&#8217;s a dick. He&#8217;s obviously got some other issues to deal with if this is the best way he can express himself to others.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still intensely dislike the idea that schools can have jurisdiction over pupils when they are not on school grounds or some ancillary place - like field trips or the bus stops.

and this whole &#039;inconsistent with the educational mission ...&#039; thing is a load of utter crap.  In essence that means if you publically disagree with anything you are taught, you are subject to discipline.  No way even the Roberts Court goes along with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still intensely dislike the idea that schools can have jurisdiction over pupils when they are not on school grounds or some ancillary place &#8211; like field trips or the bus stops.</p>
<p>and this whole &#8216;inconsistent with the educational mission &#8230;&#8217; thing is a load of utter crap.  In essence that means if you publically disagree with anything you are taught, you are subject to discipline.  No way even the Roberts Court goes along with that.</p>
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		<title>By: TJGeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12 - (            )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 &#8211; (            )</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it is safe to assume that you are not using the more humorous pronunciation of your made-up word which is silence ;-&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it is safe to assume that you are not using the more humorous pronunciation of your made-up word which is silence ;-&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: TJGeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought &quot;ghoti&quot; came from Shaw, who was a spelling reformer, but I guess it didn&#039;t. I liked the little essay on it at 

http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxwhat04.html

where it says English spelling is kindly because it doesn&#039;t spell &quot;potato&quot; as &quot;ghoughpteighbteau&quot; - see the link for why it could be. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought &#8220;ghoti&#8221; came from Shaw, who was a spelling reformer, but I guess it didn&#8217;t. I liked the little essay on it at </p>
<p><a href="http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxwhat04.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxwhat04.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxwhat04.html</a></p>
<p>where it says English spelling is kindly because it doesn&#8217;t spell &#8220;potato&#8221; as &#8220;ghoughpteighbteau&#8221; &#8211; see the link for why it could be.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who didn&#039;t understand #7 &amp; 8 (like me),
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who didn&#8217;t understand #7 &#038; 8 (like me),<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti</a></p>
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