undissembled says:

I say add a circle off to the side that is not overlapping anything. Put science in there.

Mike says:

Heh. Well, if nothing else, the one thing that Intelligent Design “explains” that evolution can’t is the actual origin of life. Assuming that simple bacteria actually did evolve into the the diverse life on this planet of today over several millions of years, you still have to get to the point of having life develop on its own where there previously was none. And I don’t recall reading any theories that can be tested of how that happened.

I do also appreciate that this diagram implies that there are no Democrats who also believe in ID. Pretty clever indeed.

Gregory says:

Mike – Abiogenesis is the theory you are talking about. Amazingly there is a lot more scientific evidence for it than most people think.

The electricity + “molecule soup” = complex chain structures experiments are fascinating.

@$tr0Gh0$t says:

#4, well, the diagram attacks all religions! Not only one.
It appears that you are not an avid reader of the blog, since ID is a topic that John visits quite often.

Mike says:

#5, yes, I am aware of the ability to synthesize amino acids and some other molecules under certain conditions in a lab. Beyond that, it is not much more than experimentation and hypotheses of whether or not a pile of bricks can assemble itself into a house.

Misanthropic Scott says:

Given all of the problems religion has caused on this planet, I’d be OK with an outright attack on religion, not just dogma. Religion is genuinely evil.

As to “abiogenesis”, a common term in apologetics, I’d point out that those who attempt to use statistics to disprove evolution in this manner are truly missing the point. When they state that the odds of abiogenesis occurring at random are 1 in 10^20, they are also stating that the odds of creating life from non-life by prayer should have odds of 10^20 to 1 in favor of working. Perhaps these are the tests being performed in the Christian Science laboratories. They should succeed any day now, right?

Mike says:

#11, I understand you have a smug condescension towards people who aren’t as enlightened as you, but what does the viability of abiogenesis have to do with proving or disproving evolution?

ArianeB says:

Don’t you people understand how a venn diagram works? Only some religious people are stupid and political enough to believe in intelligent design.

Pope John Paul II declared evolution true for Catholics. Many biologists are religious and have no problem dealing with the “symbolism” of the Bible and the “facts” of scientific evidence.

Even the so called scientists who support “intelligent design” no longer support the bible version of history. They are simply playing into the “God of the Gaps” argument. (anything science cant explain is proof of God)

Chris says:

I hate generalizations. Why are religious people just assumed to be idiots than believe in intelligent design. I don’t know a single person that believes in intelligent design, yet I know a lot of people that are liberal evolution believing democrats that are relgious. A does not Equal B does not equal C in most cases.

Random Thought says:

Has anyone ever converted to Christianity over an intellectual debate? Romans 8 suggests not. If you don’t feel you are fallen and in need of redemption, you simply don’t have any need for God or Jesus. Of course you may still be tragically fallen, but if you don’t recongize this then you are not there yet. If you read this website, you simply must know that it poo poo’s religion. Particularly I.E.

Of course, disussing this venn diagram at all pushes us all towards the upper left regardless of religious or non-religous affiliatioin.