Comments on: The music album format is dead, sort of! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:17:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pierre Allan http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-643627 Pierre Allan Sun, 27 May 2007 12:18:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-643627 The problem I find with most match making sites is the carte blanche attitude of the spammers and scammers to abuse the service for others. I have to wonder if there is anyone who is ignorant enough to fall for their tricks these days. I can see why many premium dating sites are able to charge extortionate fees, and still keep a straight face The problem I find with most match making sites is the carte blanche attitude of the spammers and scammers to abuse the service for others. I have to wonder if there is anyone who is ignorant enough to fall for their tricks these days. I can see why many premium dating sites are able to charge extortionate fees, and still keep a straight face

]]> By: Lauren the Ghoti http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-557943 Lauren the Ghoti Fri, 30 Mar 2007 02:29:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-557943 BubbaRay - Think about this - the Library of Congress has <b>3</b> Rockport Sirius tables! BubbaRay -

Think about this – the Library of Congress has 3 Rockport Sirius tables!

]]> By: tallwookie http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-557569 tallwookie Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:29:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-557569 I feel really sorry for those people who actually purchase music - doods, ever heard of the Internet? lol, if you're still spending money on music, I'd guess not I feel really sorry for those people who actually purchase music – doods, ever heard of the Internet? lol, if you’re still spending money on music, I’d guess not

]]> By: BubbaRay http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-555052 BubbaRay Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:40:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-555052 This might date me, but I've an old 1960 Teac 15ips reel to reel recorder (oh my gracious, it has <i>tubes</i>) and I've also <i>gasp!</i> a turntable. Bet my albums would sound better on one of these babies if only I could afford the $70K... http://www.audiofederation.com/catalog/turntables/index.htm Check out the Rockport (scroll down just a bit on the page). One of the southwest's oldest and finest record stores went out of biz some months ago, acres of vinyl and knowledgeable help. (Now crying in beer). 6, 19 Thanks for the tips on purchasing records online. Guess I'll have to start somewhere now that I can't shop, sample and touch 'em. Boy, there sure are a bunch of geezers in this thread. :) This might date me, but I’ve an old 1960 Teac 15ips reel to reel recorder (oh my gracious, it has tubes) and I’ve also gasp! a turntable. Bet my albums would sound better on one of these babies if only I could afford the $70K…

http://www.audiofederation.com/catalog/turntables/index.htm

Check out the Rockport (scroll down just a bit on the page).

One of the southwest’s oldest and finest record stores went out of biz some months ago, acres of vinyl and knowledgeable help. (Now crying in beer).

6, 19 Thanks for the tips on purchasing records online. Guess I’ll have to start somewhere now that I can’t shop, sample and touch ‘em.

Boy, there sure are a bunch of geezers in this thread. :)

]]> By: OhForTheLoveOf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-554786 OhForTheLoveOf Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:51:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554786 #21 - What does that mean? Most music listeners from the year 1920 wouldn't get it either. Pop music tends to be reasonably specific to its time... I think I understand The Wall. Is the point that Roger Waters is a whinier bitch than most other rock stars? I remember Vera Lynn. #21 – What does that mean?

Most music listeners from the year 1920 wouldn’t get it either. Pop music tends to be reasonably specific to its time…

I think I understand The Wall. Is the point that Roger Waters is a whinier bitch than most other rock stars?

I remember Vera Lynn.

]]> By: qsabe http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-554779 qsabe Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:46:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554779 As one who can remember when bands were and singers could, I say thump thump trash today requires a screwed up mentality brought on by to much noise in the 70's progressing to the sordid state of noise today. So who cares if you can now buy only one track of the absurd. But a shining star is on the horizon. For those who care about real music and are not afraid to spend the dollars required to reproduce it, vinyl records are still being pressed for the highest quality in good music. As one who can remember when bands were and singers could, I say thump thump trash today requires a screwed up mentality brought on by to much noise in the 70′s progressing to the sordid state of noise today. So who cares if you can now buy only one track of the absurd. But a shining star is on the horizon. For those who care about real music and are not afraid to spend the dollars required to reproduce it, vinyl records are still being pressed for the highest quality in good music.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-2/#comment-554767 pedro Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:41:52 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554767 #14 most of today's buyers wouldn't care or even understand the rest of the tracks in The Wall, let alone DSOTM #14 most of today’s buyers wouldn’t care or even understand the rest of the tracks in The Wall, let alone DSOTM

]]> By: excalipoor http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-554755 excalipoor Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:32:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554755 How about the way japan makes their music? They sell singles first and if they have enough hits, they put those singles into an album. They've been doing this for a long time. How about the way japan makes their music? They sell singles first and if they have enough hits, they put those singles into an album. They’ve been doing this for a long time.

]]> By: OhForTheLoveOf http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-554729 OhForTheLoveOf Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:16:27 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554729 #9 - "Plus you can understand the lyrics " Are you gonna shake your fist at me and tell me to keep off the lawn too? :-) (I'm teasing) However folks... There is truly brilliant music out there today. Some of the best pop/rock ever made has been made in the past 5 years... ...with absolutely zero thanks to the music industry, from the labels to Clearchannel. The music industry, for reasons that cannot be fathomed, do not want you to hear <i>Of Montreal, The Arcade Fire, TV on the Radio, or Thievery Corporation</i> just to name a paltry few. They hate the idea that something fresh, original, or just plain good might creep into the mainstream. I could, I suppose, lament that the early days of Elvis Costello are gone, but instead I choose to celebrate the fact that Ryan Adams is young and vital. I could go on about how Pink Floyd is long gone, but I'd rather get lost in the rapture of Radiohead. You can choose to get arrested in the romaticized memory of the music that provided the soundtrack of your youth. Or, you can choose to remain young and bask in the glow of today's best and brightest. Of course, you can't do it with a radio, sadly... But if you do your own listening, your own footwork, you will discover that greatness is alive and well. #9 – “Plus you can understand the lyrics ”

Are you gonna shake your fist at me and tell me to keep off the lawn too? :-)

(I’m teasing)

However folks… There is truly brilliant music out there today. Some of the best pop/rock ever made has been made in the past 5 years… …with absolutely zero thanks to the music industry, from the labels to Clearchannel.

The music industry, for reasons that cannot be fathomed, do not want you to hear Of Montreal, The Arcade Fire, TV on the Radio, or Thievery Corporation just to name a paltry few. They hate the idea that something fresh, original, or just plain good might creep into the mainstream.

I could, I suppose, lament that the early days of Elvis Costello are gone, but instead I choose to celebrate the fact that Ryan Adams is young and vital.

I could go on about how Pink Floyd is long gone, but I’d rather get lost in the rapture of Radiohead.

You can choose to get arrested in the romaticized memory of the music that provided the soundtrack of your youth. Or, you can choose to remain young and bask in the glow of today’s best and brightest.

Of course, you can’t do it with a radio, sadly… But if you do your own listening, your own footwork, you will discover that greatness is alive and well.

]]> By: faustus http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-554583 faustus Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:54:58 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554583 ya the 45's and lp's point is valid. a music act didn't release a lp until they had several hit 45's back in the day. you'll probably see the industry go back to that. but i think we are going to start seeing better stuff coming out.... the next bob dylan will no doubt be using an apple computer and some film and music editting software then releasing his stuff on youtube cutting out the middleman and giving new meaning to the term "basement tapes". ya the 45′s and lp’s point is valid. a music act didn’t release a lp until they had several hit 45′s back in the day. you’ll probably see the industry go back to that. but i think we are going to start seeing better stuff coming out…. the next bob dylan will no doubt be using an apple computer and some film and music editting software then releasing his stuff on youtube cutting out the middleman and giving new meaning to the term “basement tapes”.

]]> By: Floyd http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-554411 Floyd Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:03:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554411 Lately, I've been checking out used CD stores. The prices are often half of a new CD, but if you buy from a dealer that stands by his goods you can get bargains. The CDs I buy, new or used, are mostly ones that stand together as albums, or are "best of" albums. Though I have an iPod I don't buy singles from iTunes or anyone else. Lately, I’ve been checking out used CD stores. The prices are often half of a new CD, but if you buy from a dealer that stands by his goods you can get bargains.

The CDs I buy, new or used, are mostly ones that stand together as albums, or are “best of” albums. Though I have an iPod I don’t buy singles from iTunes or anyone else.

]]> By: YeahRight http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-554239 YeahRight Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:17:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554239 To me the music industry forces us to buy stuff on their terms. Yes, you could buy a single ( 45 RPM , CD, even cassettes ). But you did not pay for 1 song ... oh nonono.. you had to pay for the "cooler" song on the other side. I know the cost of manufacturing and distribution.. but now nothing matters, you can buy just the song you want! Superb! Albums...They are some that I love, but they are so few and far between... And the fact that I have to "rebuy" the same albums over and over from the record companies... make me hate them even more...Love and respect the artists but never the labels. To me the music industry forces us to buy stuff on their terms. Yes, you could buy a single ( 45 RPM , CD, even cassettes ). But you did not pay for 1 song … oh nonono.. you had to pay for the “cooler” song on the other side. I know the cost of manufacturing and distribution.. but now nothing matters, you can buy just the song you want! Superb!

Albums…They are some that I love, but they are so few and far between…

And the fact that I have to “rebuy” the same albums over and over from the record companies… make me hate them even more…Love and respect the artists but never the labels.

]]> By: Peter Rodwell http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-554019 Peter Rodwell Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:36:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554019 I have over 1,000 CDs (all legally purchased) that I'm slowly ripping to a computer. I've resisted putting a computer in the living room for years but I finally gave in when my 15 year old hi-fi system (well, mid-fi, really) started to die. The next step will be to add a top-range sound system to the computer. It certainly is more convenient to be able to put together a playlist of favorite tracks but ripping all those CDs is <i>very boring</i>! I won't stop buying CDs - but as soon as I get them home I'll rip them and put the CD away in a bax. I have over 1,000 CDs (all legally purchased) that I’m slowly ripping to a computer. I’ve resisted putting a computer in the living room for years but I finally gave in when my 15 year old hi-fi system (well, mid-fi, really) started to die. The next step will be to add a top-range sound system to the computer.

It certainly is more convenient to be able to put together a playlist of favorite tracks but ripping all those CDs is very boring!

I won’t stop buying CDs – but as soon as I get them home I’ll rip them and put the CD away in a bax.

]]> By: Peter Jakobs http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-554003 Peter Jakobs Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:22:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-554003 There were those who had a few "hits" and made an album full of "fillers" and there were those who thought about how to create more than just a "pre made single artist playlist" as someone above put it. You can listen to Pink Floyd single tracks, but they usually don't make much sense without the album. So what we're seeing here is not the death of a medium, it's just the failure of the idea that anyone could make an album. Now, on the other side, this might lead to even more of a fast food comsumer mentality. Everyone has heard "the Wall" (the single track) but what about the other versions on the album, what about all the other songs? There is works where the single track needs to be viewed in the larger context. Buying just the single track won't do them justice. pj There were those who had a few “hits” and made an album full of “fillers” and there were those who thought about how to create more than just a “pre made single artist playlist” as someone above put it. You can listen to Pink Floyd single tracks, but they usually don’t make much sense without the album.
So what we’re seeing here is not the death of a medium, it’s just the failure of the idea that anyone could make an album.

Now, on the other side, this might lead to even more of a fast food comsumer mentality. Everyone has heard “the Wall” (the single track) but what about the other versions on the album, what about all the other songs? There is works where the single track needs to be viewed in the larger context. Buying just the single track won’t do them justice.

pj

]]> By: John S http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/03/27/the-music-album-format-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-553900 John S Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:50:20 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=10625#comment-553900 Being a Led Zeppelin fan I am aware that they preferred to sell albums and not singles. The record companies wanted to sell singles and forced through a couple of singles without the consent of Led Zeppelin. There were other groups that did not like single sales such as I believe the afformentioned Pink Floyd. I am not sure that the problem has to do with singles vs. albums as much as by record companies looking for a quick profit. They want to through a constant flow of one hit wonders at us that burn out to be quickly replaced by someone else. John S Being a Led Zeppelin fan I am aware that they preferred to sell albums and not singles. The record companies wanted to sell singles and forced through a couple of singles without the consent of Led Zeppelin. There were other groups that did not like single sales such as I believe the afformentioned Pink Floyd. I am not sure that the problem has to do with singles vs. albums as much as by record companies looking for a quick profit. They want to through a constant flow of one hit wonders at us that burn out to be quickly replaced by someone else.

John S

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