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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft and Adobe launch new media players.  Endorse DRM.</title>
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		<title>By: Blogenator</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595717</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogenator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, gurls...

Let&#039;s talk &quot;ripples in the pond&quot;...

We are the ripples.  Those of us who read this blog, and try to change the &#039;net.

The &#039;net is the pond.  Primarily conduit fluid stuph, lots of scum (mostly scum), many fish, a few smart/bright fish..

FIRST UP, YOU ARE THE FOLKS ALL YOUR FRIENDS ASK &quot;WHAT TO CLICK ON&quot; -- TELL THEM, &quot;NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!&quot;  DO NOT click on graphic ads, do not click on ads embedded in the middle of articles you&#039;re reading, DEFINITELY NEVER EVER CLICK ON POP-UP ADS, in fact, just get FIREFOX WITH AD-BLOCK PLUS.

Sure, &quot;free&quot; sites that are supported by ADVERTISING will DIE.  Including, perhaps, this one -- probably not.  HOWEVER, &quot;FREE SITES&quot; with quality referral might THEN proper.  &quot;STUFF&quot; that is good will sell, stuff that is &quot;VI@GR@&quot; will not.

SPREAD THE WORD.  Puhleeze, for the love of &#039;net, SPREAD THE WORD!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, gurls&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk &#8220;ripples in the pond&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>We are the ripples.  Those of us who read this blog, and try to change the &#8216;net.</p>
<p>The &#8216;net is the pond.  Primarily conduit fluid stuph, lots of scum (mostly scum), many fish, a few smart/bright fish..</p>
<p>FIRST UP, YOU ARE THE FOLKS ALL YOUR FRIENDS ASK &#8220;WHAT TO CLICK ON&#8221; &#8212; TELL THEM, &#8220;NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!&#8221;  DO NOT click on graphic ads, do not click on ads embedded in the middle of articles you&#8217;re reading, DEFINITELY NEVER EVER CLICK ON POP-UP ADS, in fact, just get FIREFOX WITH AD-BLOCK PLUS.</p>
<p>Sure, &#8220;free&#8221; sites that are supported by ADVERTISING will DIE.  Including, perhaps, this one &#8212; probably not.  HOWEVER, &#8220;FREE SITES&#8221; with quality referral might THEN proper.  &#8220;STUFF&#8221; that is good will sell, stuff that is &#8220;VI@GR@&#8221; will not.</p>
<p>SPREAD THE WORD.  Puhleeze, for the love of &#8216;net, SPREAD THE WORD!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Podesta</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595697</link>
		<dc:creator>Podesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that is new for Microsoft.   The same thing has been true of Washington Post video podcasts that I have been downloading from iTunes for at least the last six months.   One has to watch the same boring &#039;office ready&#039; ad before viewing most of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that is new for Microsoft.   The same thing has been true of Washington Post video podcasts that I have been downloading from iTunes for at least the last six months.   One has to watch the same boring &#8216;office ready&#8217; ad before viewing most of them.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13, Rob, That&#039;s fine, just send the bill to the university -- I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll pay it promptly, just like I get paid.  :)

Don&#039;t forget the 20% surcharge when using scopes with apertures larger than 1 meter.  And what price galaxies?

My scopes are DRM free, but the astrophotos, vids, stacks and research soon will be DRM&#039;ed, I&#039;m sure.

Thanks for the smile today !!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13, Rob, That&#8217;s fine, just send the bill to the university &#8212; I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll pay it promptly, just like I get paid.  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the 20% surcharge when using scopes with apertures larger than 1 meter.  And what price galaxies?</p>
<p>My scopes are DRM free, but the astrophotos, vids, stacks and research soon will be DRM&#8217;ed, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>Thanks for the smile today !!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595629</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10, sorry, I have locked up exclusive rights to viewing the stars. For each star you point your telescope at, I will charge you $1. Nebulae and star clusters are $5. Also, you must view a commercial in your eyepiece before each star or other celestial object is visible. And you are limited to viewing up to 35 stars or celestial objects before the FAP (Fair Astronomy Policy) kicks in.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10, sorry, I have locked up exclusive rights to viewing the stars. For each star you point your telescope at, I will charge you $1. Nebulae and star clusters are $5. Also, you must view a commercial in your eyepiece before each star or other celestial object is visible. And you are limited to viewing up to 35 stars or celestial objects before the FAP (Fair Astronomy Policy) kicks in.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595601</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11, Angel, No, you get to play with stars  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11, Angel, No, you get to play with stars  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595597</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10

And the bad thing is that you just play with yourself :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10</p>
<p>And the bad thing is that you just play with yourself <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;ve got to figure out how to DRM all research, photos, vids, stacks, etc. so no colleague could ever possibly use or enjoy it without some clunky spyware broadband streaming download.  Sheesh.

#1, One good thing about astronomy, you get to play outdoors most nights.  :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;ve got to figure out how to DRM all research, photos, vids, stacks, etc. so no colleague could ever possibly use or enjoy it without some clunky spyware broadband streaming download.  Sheesh.</p>
<p>#1, One good thing about astronomy, you get to play outdoors most nights.  <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595463</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVe it...
All these companys making DRM, and encoding video....And the computer corps bitching....pointing fingers...

AND STILL....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVe it&#8230;<br />
All these companys making DRM, and encoding video&#8230;.And the computer corps bitching&#8230;.pointing fingers&#8230;</p>
<p>AND STILL&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595368</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sony has a new defective DRM scheme in some of their recently released DVDs.  Apparently they learned nothing or the wrong thing from their recent rootkit fiasco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony has a new defective DRM scheme in some of their recently released DVDs.  Apparently they learned nothing or the wrong thing from their recent rootkit fiasco.</p>
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		<title>By: ArianeB</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595349</link>
		<dc:creator>ArianeB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course, one of the essentials of the original Fair Use court rulings was that consumers have a right to skip by commercials. Not anymore, man!&quot;
I think there is a different standard between time shifting fair use (recording TV shows) and on demand access to TV over the internet.

I&#039;m OK with DRM that adds advertising, because it means there will be more content available to download. I&#039;d love instant access to every tv and movie show ever produced, even if it was advertiser supported.

I&#039;m not OK with DRM that restricts how I use what I purchased, and that is the majority of DRM right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course, one of the essentials of the original Fair Use court rulings was that consumers have a right to skip by commercials. Not anymore, man!&#8221;<br />
I think there is a different standard between time shifting fair use (recording TV shows) and on demand access to TV over the internet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m OK with DRM that adds advertising, because it means there will be more content available to download. I&#8217;d love instant access to every tv and movie show ever produced, even if it was advertiser supported.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not OK with DRM that restricts how I use what I purchased, and that is the majority of DRM right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting to a blog and droolingly watching Fox News or American Idol are two pretty different things, methinks. But you are right, I do need to go cut some weeds outside...

:-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting to a blog and droolingly watching Fox News or American Idol are two pretty different things, methinks. But you are right, I do need to go cut some weeds outside&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sdf</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595338</link>
		<dc:creator>sdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1, said the guy posting on a blog article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1, said the guy posting on a blog article</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Derail</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595336</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Derail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2, Angel, it&#039;s a stream, the .flv would simply contain the Internet address to connect to that stream. So the ads will always be present.

[edit] Sorry, it&#039;s a stream stored on your hard drive. Same problem, though , it&#039;s just one long binary file.

#1&#039;s comment, I agree with. When you start pissing off that 90% of computer illiterate web surfers, things will happen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2, Angel, it&#8217;s a stream, the .flv would simply contain the Internet address to connect to that stream. So the ads will always be present.</p>
<p>[edit] Sorry, it&#8217;s a stream stored on your hard drive. Same problem, though , it&#8217;s just one long binary file.</p>
<p>#1&#8242;s comment, I agree with. When you start pissing off that 90% of computer illiterate web surfers, things will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Derail</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595333</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Derail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2, Angel, it&#039;s a stream, the .flv would simply contain the Internet address to connect to that stream. So the ads will always be present.

#1&#039;s comment, I agree with. When you start pissing off that 90% of computer illiterate web surfers, things will happen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2, Angel, it&#8217;s a stream, the .flv would simply contain the Internet address to connect to that stream. So the ads will always be present.</p>
<p>#1&#8242;s comment, I agree with. When you start pissing off that 90% of computer illiterate web surfers, things will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/16/microsoft-and-adobe-launch-new-media-players-endorse-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-595320</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But... You can find the .flv video files in the internet cache, plus there are many nifty programs floating on the net that allow you to dissect &amp; extract stuff from the flash files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But&#8230; You can find the .flv video files in the internet cache, plus there are many nifty programs floating on the net that allow you to dissect &amp; extract stuff from the flash files.</p>
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