Comments on: Another iPod “upgrade” – cheating in school! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:49:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: michael Chois http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-611614 michael Chois Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:54:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-611614 I am a fucking peice of fucking shitshit. i do my mom evry fucking day. My ass is bigger then any1 elses!! pnspnspnspnspnspsn go fuck yourself : I am a fucking peice of fucking shitshit. i do my mom evry fucking day. My ass is bigger then any1 elses!! pnspnspnspnspnspsn go fuck yourself :

]]> By: michael Choi http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-611613 michael Choi Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:53:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-611613 I am a fucking peice of fucking shitshit. i do my mom evry fucking day. My ass is bigger then any1 elses!! pnspnspnspnspnspsn go fuck yourself I am a fucking peice of fucking shitshit. i do my mom evry fucking day. My ass is bigger then any1 elses!! pnspnspnspnspnspsn go fuck yourself

]]> By: Steve http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-611320 Steve Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:32:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-611320 I pretty much do what #6 is saying, minus the AP classes since I can't take any yet. I get A's, B's, and some C's in most of my classes, not because they're hard, but generally because I procrastinate too much and I'm very lazy. Our graduation tests we took this year were definitely only around 7th grade level. I pretty much do what #6 is saying, minus the AP classes since I can’t take any yet. I get A’s, B’s, and some C’s in most of my classes, not because they’re hard, but generally because I procrastinate too much and I’m very lazy. Our graduation tests we took this year were definitely only around 7th grade level.

]]> By: Steve http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-610967 Steve Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:08:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-610967 I must say, as a professor, I have already thought about these uses of technology, and even blogged on it! (see http://sctoday.net/ProfessorNotes/wordpress/archives/119 for my thoughts.) Bottom line to me is: if the student(s) take time to dictate or type in the extensive notes required to be ready for my exams, and if they have the ability to move quickly through the material, then learning (my real goal) has already occurred. And besides, the honest students often find the ability to tune out the world, and tune in to their tunes, helpful. I must say, as a professor, I have already thought about these uses of technology, and even blogged on it! (see http://sctoday.net/ProfessorNotes/wordpress/archives/119 for my thoughts.) Bottom line to me is: if the student(s) take time to dictate or type in the extensive notes required to be ready for my exams, and if they have the ability to move quickly through the material, then learning (my real goal) has already occurred.

And besides, the honest students often find the ability to tune out the world, and tune in to their tunes, helpful.

]]> By: Floyd http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-610126 Floyd Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:02:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-610126 #12: Heh. If technology can be used to cheat in school (or the real world), it will be used that way. #2: Open book tests are indeed tough, but they test the student's general knowledge very well. Take home tests (common in universities, especially grad school) also test the student's ability to find information about the subject. We usually had to head for the college library for take home tests. #12: Heh. If technology can be used to cheat in school (or the real world), it will be used that way.

#2: Open book tests are indeed tough, but they test the student’s general knowledge very well. Take home tests (common in universities, especially grad school) also test the student’s ability to find information about the subject. We usually had to head for the college library for take home tests.

]]> By: Don Marsh http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-609391 Don Marsh Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:42:40 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-609391 Make the little miscreants take their nests naked. That should get rid of all the distractions... Make the little miscreants take their nests naked. That should get rid of all the distractions…

]]> By: BubbaRay http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-609050 BubbaRay Sat, 28 Apr 2007 03:55:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-609050 10, Hey, TJGeezer, [off topic] I still use a circular slide rule when flying. 30 years ago it was called a 'flight computer'. Nothing like a lightning strike or dead calculator batteries to really screw up navigation. And when all that expensive nav and comm gear fails, dead reckoning and a slide rule still work. I know, I'm still here. At least I had a bicycle to get the 8 miles to school. And yes, it was uphill both ways, even in the snow and rain. ;-) 10, Hey, TJGeezer, [off topic]
I still use a circular slide rule when flying. 30 years ago it was called a ‘flight computer’. Nothing like a lightning strike or dead calculator batteries to really screw up navigation. And when all that expensive nav and comm gear fails, dead reckoning and a slide rule still work. I know, I’m still here.

At least I had a bicycle to get the 8 miles to school. And yes, it was uphill both ways, even in the snow and rain. ;-)

]]> By: TJGeezer http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-608967 TJGeezer Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:38:39 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-608967 #8 - or an MIT dean http://tinyurl.com/yuep24 #7 - Sometimes a science class would let us use slide rules if we knew how. But then I had to walk 10 miles uphill to school and back every day, sonny. #8 – or an MIT dean http://tinyurl.com/yuep24

#7 – Sometimes a science class would let us use slide rules if we knew how. But then I had to walk 10 miles uphill to school and back every day, sonny.

]]> By: John Henri Allyn http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-608791 John Henri Allyn Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:03:16 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-608791 We use morris code with pencil taps stop that We use morris code with pencil taps

stop that

]]> By: Steve S http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-608683 Steve S Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:42:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-608683 #5 "Cheating trains them for the real world, if they can get away with it then they will be able to accomplish many things." Like being a Lawyer or even President of the United States! #5
“Cheating trains them for the real world, if they can get away with it then they will be able to accomplish many things.”

Like being a Lawyer or even President of the United States!

]]> By: reelgoodcheeter http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-608588 reelgoodcheeter Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:07:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-608588 back in my day the weapon of choice was the TI-85 calculator. it allowed anybody to write easily a tidy little program storing all the equations and info one needed for an exam. back in my day the weapon of choice was the TI-85 calculator. it allowed anybody to write easily a tidy little program storing all the equations and info one needed for an exam.

]]> By: Dr. Egg http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-608583 Dr. Egg Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:01:48 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-608583 Oh give me a break. If you actually need to cheat to get ahead in our public school system, well, I'd rather not say what you might be. I graduated high school 2 years ago with AP classes and a bunch of college credits under my belt and I almost never studied for any tests and my homework took maybe an hour to do each night. I ended up with a 3.4, spending much of my time sleeping at home or working on hobbies that had nothing to do with school! School was just a minor chore for me. That is how low the standards have become due to the "No child left behind" act. Oh give me a break. If you actually need to cheat to get ahead in our public school system, well, I’d rather not say what you might be. I graduated high school 2 years ago with AP classes and a bunch of college credits under my belt and I almost never studied for any tests and my homework took maybe an hour to do each night. I ended up with a 3.4, spending much of my time sleeping at home or working on hobbies that had nothing to do with school! School was just a minor chore for me. That is how low the standards have become due to the “No child left behind” act.

]]> By: Angel H. Wong http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-608415 Angel H. Wong Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:15:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-608415 Cheating trains them for the real world, if they can get away with it then they will be able to accomplish many things. Cheating trains them for the real world, if they can get away with it then they will be able to accomplish many things.

]]> By: Bono http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-608373 Bono Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:49:28 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-608373 iCheat. Love it! iCheat. Love it!

]]> By: BryanP http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/04/27/another-ipod-upgrade-cheating-in-school/comment-page-1/#comment-608207 BryanP Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:28:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11101#comment-608207 It's just a new variation on an old theme. I knew a guy in high school back in the early 80s who had one of those tiny Tandy portables. The one with the 4-line LCD display. He asked if he could use his "calculator" on a biology exam. The teacher didn't think anything of it. John had entered all his notes as REM statements in the comp's built-in BASIC interpreter. It’s just a new variation on an old theme. I knew a guy in high school back in the early 80s who had one of those tiny Tandy portables. The one with the 4-line LCD display. He asked if he could use his “calculator” on a biology exam. The teacher didn’t think anything of it. John had entered all his notes as REM statements in the comp’s built-in BASIC interpreter.

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