I doubt you’ll keep reading this thread now that it scrolled off the main page. In case you do, did you note these passages from a middle paragraph and the ending paragraphs of your own posted article?

2This sequence of events is still in full agreement with the idea that CO2 plays, through its greenhouse effect, a key role in amplifying the initial orbital forcing. First, the 800-year time lag is short in comparison with the total duration of the temperature and CO 2 increases (

Thanks. It’s going to take a while to get back to you on this one. The thread will probably scroll away before I get the answer. If so, I’ll try to keep a few links for a future thread. You are aware, though, that this is only about antarctic temperature, not global, right? I’ll see what else correlates with or contradicts this.

I thought this was pretty well known. Scientists are going all over trying to explain away this little detail. Now if they would just start with an experiment that can be done at home, they would realize that warming causes more CO2.

I’m terribly sorry. I got confused between you and MikeN.

#28 – MikeN,

Do you have a peer reviewed source for your claim that ‘Except that CO2 increases happened after temperature increases in the past’?

Peer review is commonly accepted as an essential part of scientific publication. But the ways peer review is put into practice vary across journals and disciplines. What is the best method of peer review? Is it truly a value-adding process? What are the ethical concerns? And how can new technology be used to improve traditional models?

http://www.nature.com/nature/peerreview/debate/index.html

On the other hand, before my involvement with John’s blog, I don’t think I ever realized how much fun it can be – to play Cassandra.

I’ll still say 90% of the ocean, though I probably didn’t mean to include microbes. I’m just having a hard time finding the exact source in which I read it. But, keep challenging me to do so. It keeps things interesting.

And, while you’re at it, why don’t you post a peer-reviewed source for your statement ‘Except that CO2 increases happened after temperature increases in the past.’ You’ve stated it on multiple threads. I don’t recall a peer-reviewed source for it though.

while i have no doubt about global warming as a whole…

i find it highly suspect in the *amount* or “flood”, if you will, of global warming and the associated doomsday reports, since the release of (and more importantly after the Oscar award) of al gore’s “an inconvenient truth” movie..

i find it an amusing coincidence that prior to the release and oscar awards of this movie, we saw very little mainstream reporting of anything related to global warming.. now its seems you cannot turn a corner without some global warming related report..

yes yes.. warming is an issue, no doubt. but i wonder how much of the reporting is legitimate as apposed to being politically motivated…

-personally, i think all the extra “content” being pushed is a clandestine move to sell hybrid cars.. and more importantly, to fuel guilt in order to promote trading of that ever popular Carbon Credit scam. and it’s little brother, the carbon footprint.

time will tell.

-s

I put $1000.00 dollars American that my prediction is more likely to come true than this stupid extrapolation taken from a few year period of above average temps

the big controversy with the crust displacement theory is the speed. The pleistocene ended over a period of only a thousand or so years, an finger snap in geologic time. As hard as it is to accept, crust displacement is the only theory that works.

The sun has not changed its output significantly over millennia, and the overall temperature of the Earth is pretty constant, give or take several degrees. That’s enough to screw with those living here (an engine of evolutionary progress) but not enough to create three-mile-thick glaciers over parts of North America that are temperate now. The crust is less than 50 miles thick and floats on a sea of molten rock. Why couldn’t it shift like the skin on an orange?