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	<title>Comments on: The Telcos continue their battle against VoIP!  Will they win the battle but lose the war?!</title>
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		<title>By: ghm101</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/06/the-telocs-continue-their-war-against-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-620617</link>
		<dc:creator>ghm101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 18:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pfkad, I have used skypeout to call landlines in Australia from England for about 3 years.

Pretty cheap but I can still call me mum &amp; others who don&#039;t have either a computer or broadband. Outside the US Vonage is peripheral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pfkad, I have used skypeout to call landlines in Australia from England for about 3 years.</p>
<p>Pretty cheap but I can still call me mum &amp; others who don&#8217;t have either a computer or broadband. Outside the US Vonage is peripheral.</p>
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		<title>By: Pfkad</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/06/the-telocs-continue-their-war-against-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-620082</link>
		<dc:creator>Pfkad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 13:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skype and Gtalk are fine as long as you don&#039;t need to call anybody who doesn&#039;t have internet. For me, Vonage is great because, while not free, it&#039;s pretty cheap and I can call my mother, my aunt and my in-laws, none of whom have a computer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype and Gtalk are fine as long as you don&#8217;t need to call anybody who doesn&#8217;t have internet. For me, Vonage is great because, while not free, it&#8217;s pretty cheap and I can call my mother, my aunt and my in-laws, none of whom have a computer.</p>
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		<title>By: George of the city</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/06/the-telocs-continue-their-war-against-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-619817</link>
		<dc:creator>George of the city</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 05:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every 911 has a local # also. It can usualy be found in your phone book under central dispatch. calling this # will get you the same person as 911. just program this # in your cell for your home town emergancy #.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every 911 has a local # also. It can usualy be found in your phone book under central dispatch. calling this # will get you the same person as 911. just program this # in your cell for your home town emergancy #.</p>
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		<title>By: ECA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/06/the-telocs-continue-their-war-against-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-619396</link>
		<dc:creator>ECA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 17:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key is COST...
The Big telco&#039;s DONT wnt to change anything if its going to cost money, and it will.  They are being forced to Drop prices, and upgrade the system.
They will set their Lawyers ontot he world, of the USA and see who they can scare off, or intimidate.
those on top dont want a DENT in their pay checks, and they Cant raise prices and be competitive.(already gone up 1/3 in the last 8 years).
They dont want to fix something IF they dont need/have to, and will force us to use what is Given to us to USE.

Its the same with many companies..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key is COST&#8230;<br />
The Big telco&#8217;s DONT wnt to change anything if its going to cost money, and it will.  They are being forced to Drop prices, and upgrade the system.<br />
They will set their Lawyers ontot he world, of the USA and see who they can scare off, or intimidate.<br />
those on top dont want a DENT in their pay checks, and they Cant raise prices and be competitive.(already gone up 1/3 in the last 8 years).<br />
They dont want to fix something IF they dont need/have to, and will force us to use what is Given to us to USE.</p>
<p>Its the same with many companies..</p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why anyone would buy VOIP.  Why take away all those jobs from local workers just to save a few dollars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why anyone would buy VOIP.  Why take away all those jobs from local workers just to save a few dollars?</p>
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		<title>By: rantsh</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/06/the-telocs-continue-their-war-against-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-619381</link>
		<dc:creator>rantsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 16:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for a VoIP company (&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.vivophone.com&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VIVOphone&lt;/a&gt;) and to be honest, as much as I don&#039;t worry so much for VoIP dying (I don&#039;t think Telcos can kill them all) I worry on the fact that they will shut down some of these companies to establish a point. Specially smaller companies who can&#039;t afford big lawyers for these kind of pointless lawsuits.

I believe there&#039;s enough market for both regular phone companies and VoIP companies, Why can&#039;t we be friends? (HAHAHAHA =D )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a VoIP company (<a href='http://www.vivophone.com' rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">VIVOphone</a>) and to be honest, as much as I don&#8217;t worry so much for VoIP dying (I don&#8217;t think Telcos can kill them all) I worry on the fact that they will shut down some of these companies to establish a point. Specially smaller companies who can&#8217;t afford big lawyers for these kind of pointless lawsuits.</p>
<p>I believe there&#8217;s enough market for both regular phone companies and VoIP companies, Why can&#8217;t we be friends? (HAHAHAHA =D )</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/06/the-telocs-continue-their-war-against-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-619359</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 15:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SN, did you mean Telcos instead of Telocs?   Perhaps I&#039;m behind times.

&lt;b&gt;T-Mobile And Apple prepare for Wi-Fi cell phone battle:&lt;/b&gt;
&quot;The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that T-Mobile is planning a national launch of Wi-Fi-equipped mobile phones as early as mid-June.&quot;

http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=80088&amp;src=site-marq

&lt;b&gt;Cell Wireless Launches Wi-Fi Cell VoIP Phone&lt;/b&gt;
http://tinyurl.com/2gq2ew

This stuff has been floating around since 2004.  Maybe someone is serious about it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SN, did you mean Telcos instead of Telocs?   Perhaps I&#8217;m behind times.</p>
<p><b>T-Mobile And Apple prepare for Wi-Fi cell phone battle:</b><br />
&#8220;The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that T-Mobile is planning a national launch of Wi-Fi-equipped mobile phones as early as mid-June.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=80088&#038;src=site-marq" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=80088&#038;src=site-marq' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=80088&#038;src=site-marq</a></p>
<p><b>Cell Wireless Launches Wi-Fi Cell VoIP Phone</b><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/2gq2ew" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://tinyurl.com/2gq2ew' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/2gq2ew</a></p>
<p>This stuff has been floating around since 2004.  Maybe someone is serious about it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Eideard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/06/the-telocs-continue-their-war-against-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-619358</link>
		<dc:creator>Eideard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 15:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skype still has the toughest encryption - if you care about privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype still has the toughest encryption &#8211; if you care about privacy.</p>
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		<title>By: ghm101</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/06/the-telocs-continue-their-war-against-voip/comment-page-1/#comment-619229</link>
		<dc:creator>ghm101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 12:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just put a Asterisk, open source, phone system into our office (about 50 extensions), 

It does the SIP thing, thei IAX thing and the POTS thing, all in one.

you can have soft phones or hardphones anywhere you have decent internet all just as extensions of the office.

I know the next version of Asterisk is supposed to work with Gtalk. as a softphone client.

This voip creature will not be going back in any telcos cage.,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just put a Asterisk, open source, phone system into our office (about 50 extensions), </p>
<p>It does the SIP thing, thei IAX thing and the POTS thing, all in one.</p>
<p>you can have soft phones or hardphones anywhere you have decent internet all just as extensions of the office.</p>
<p>I know the next version of Asterisk is supposed to work with Gtalk. as a softphone client.</p>
<p>This voip creature will not be going back in any telcos cage.,</p>
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