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	<title>Comments on: Will &#8216;Racetrack&#8217; Memory Replace The Hard Drive?</title>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/13/will-racetrack-memory-replace-the-hard-drive/comment-page-1/#comment-626947</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 21:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4, Bill, thanks for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4, Bill, thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: TJGeezer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/13/will-racetrack-memory-replace-the-hard-drive/comment-page-1/#comment-626916</link>
		<dc:creator>TJGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 19:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There have been a lot of new storage technologies in tech news stories over the past year or two. What most of them have in common is that they&#039;re solid-state. Hard drives have become a lot more reliable (and &quot;Spinrite&quot; is still around, in a much evolved form) but ultimately they still have a lot of moving parts. Quite a few of the new solid-state approaches will no doubt be in use when spinning hard disk technology finally fades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been a lot of new storage technologies in tech news stories over the past year or two. What most of them have in common is that they&#8217;re solid-state. Hard drives have become a lot more reliable (and &#8220;Spinrite&#8221; is still around, in a much evolved form) but ultimately they still have a lot of moving parts. Quite a few of the new solid-state approaches will no doubt be in use when spinning hard disk technology finally fades.</p>
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		<title>By: Milo</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/13/will-racetrack-memory-replace-the-hard-drive/comment-page-1/#comment-626760</link>
		<dc:creator>Milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as storage prices keep coming down. I just bought a quarter terabyte for $90 and I didn&#039;t even shop! I need lots of storage for all this po... data! Data, that&#039;s it! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as storage prices keep coming down. I just bought a quarter terabyte for $90 and I didn&#8217;t even shop! I need lots of storage for all this po&#8230; data! Data, that&#8217;s it!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/13/will-racetrack-memory-replace-the-hard-drive/comment-page-1/#comment-626757</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 15:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read a lot about the history of computer hardware, this immediately came to mind when I read this article:

&quot;In an acoustic delay line store (&quot;memory&quot;), bits are inserted sequentially into one end of a long metal wire as acoustic pulses, by means of a transducer (see below). These pulses propagate along the wire at the speed of sound, until they arrive at the other end where they are translated back into electrical pulses by another transducer.&quot;

http://www.science.uva.nl/museum/delayline.html

This torsional delay storage was the later version of acoustic delay lines previously made using mercury tubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read a lot about the history of computer hardware, this immediately came to mind when I read this article:</p>
<p>&#8220;In an acoustic delay line store (&#8221;memory&#8221;), bits are inserted sequentially into one end of a long metal wire as acoustic pulses, by means of a transducer (see below). These pulses propagate along the wire at the speed of sound, until they arrive at the other end where they are translated back into electrical pulses by another transducer.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.science.uva.nl/museum/delayline.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.science.uva.nl/museum/delayline.html' rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.science.uva.nl/museum/delayline.html</a></p>
<p>This torsional delay storage was the later version of acoustic delay lines previously made using mercury tubes.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu Mulne</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/13/will-racetrack-memory-replace-the-hard-drive/comment-page-1/#comment-626749</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Mulne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 15:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure sounds like &#039;Bubble Memory&quot; or &quot;delay line&quot; technology to me....

The real questions are access times and data density.  Disks are extremely dense at this point, but probably can go a bit further before limits kick in.  (There&#039;s still no good reason why a 5&quot; &quot;half-height&quot; form factor couldn&#039;t be used in desktop machines - Lord knows how much data could be stuffed on one of those nowadays.  The itty bitty notebook drives aren&#039;t necessarily where it&#039;s at....  

What worries most people about spinning memory is mechanical safety, and, at some point, data volatility due to single-bit (or worse) errors due to mechanical issues.  (Remember what &quot;Spinrite&quot; was supposed to do?)

Non-rotating material (&quot;solid state&quot;) is probably where it&#039;s going to end up.  Some seriously large devices already exist, and even bigger ones are possible....

I&#039;m not sure about the article&#039;s technology - seems like an &quot;overkill&quot; response, and there&#039;s nothing new except perhaps the implementation.

Regards,

Stu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure sounds like &#8216;Bubble Memory&#8221; or &#8220;delay line&#8221; technology to me&#8230;.</p>
<p>The real questions are access times and data density.  Disks are extremely dense at this point, but probably can go a bit further before limits kick in.  (There&#8217;s still no good reason why a 5&#8243; &#8220;half-height&#8221; form factor couldn&#8217;t be used in desktop machines &#8211; Lord knows how much data could be stuffed on one of those nowadays.  The itty bitty notebook drives aren&#8217;t necessarily where it&#8217;s at&#8230;.  </p>
<p>What worries most people about spinning memory is mechanical safety, and, at some point, data volatility due to single-bit (or worse) errors due to mechanical issues.  (Remember what &#8220;Spinrite&#8221; was supposed to do?)</p>
<p>Non-rotating material (&#8221;solid state&#8221;) is probably where it&#8217;s going to end up.  Some seriously large devices already exist, and even bigger ones are possible&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about the article&#8217;s technology &#8211; seems like an &#8220;overkill&#8221; response, and there&#8217;s nothing new except perhaps the implementation.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Stu.</p>
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		<title>By: Jägermeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jägermeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 14:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before we call this a HD killer... how much data can it store?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we call this a HD killer&#8230; how much data can it store?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Derail</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/13/will-racetrack-memory-replace-the-hard-drive/comment-page-1/#comment-626644</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Derail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 12:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, there&#039;s 150,000 NA jobs that aren&#039;t required to mass produce, market and service this HD killer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, there&#8217;s 150,000 NA jobs that aren&#8217;t required to mass produce, market and service this HD killer.</p>
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