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		<title>By: Lauren the Ghoti</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-651667</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren the Ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33 - Pfkad 

I&#039;ve tried, more than once, but I get 20 or 30 pages in and I wonder what I&#039;m doing there... but mainly, the people I know who like Gibson are the same ones who like Bukowski and Palahniuk, and I just don&#039;t go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 &#8211; Pfkad </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried, more than once, but I get 20 or 30 pages in and I wonder what I&#8217;m doing there&#8230; but mainly, the people I know who like Gibson are the same ones who like Bukowski and Palahniuk, and I just don&#8217;t go there.</p>
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		<title>By: KVolk</title>
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		<dc:creator>KVolk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Glen Cook for a good story as well as Peter Hamilton if you enjoy space opera and for fantasy nothing beats Raymond Feist.</description>
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		<title>By: Pfkad</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-650790</link>
		<dc:creator>Pfkad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, Angel: Try William Gibson.</description>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-650621</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 12:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31, Lauren,

Amber, wow, you just made my hair grow 8 inches in ten seconds.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31, Lauren,</p>
<p>Amber, wow, you just made my hair grow 8 inches in ten seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren the Ghoti</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-650563</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren the Ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28 - BR 

Russell&#039;s books are not easy to come by, as he is, like Vance and Dick, somewhat of an acquired taste, and has a small but devoted following. Be forewarned, if you&#039;re not already aware, that he most emphatically was NOT a hard-SF practicioner; he was a keen observer of humanity and often a very droll satirist. Obviously some background can be found&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Frank_Russell&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; in the usual place, &lt;/a&gt; and I think that everyone should read&lt;a href=&quot;http://tmh.floonet.net/books/tge/tgetoc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; The Great Explosion.&lt;/a&gt; If you enjoy it, you&#039;ll enjoy any and all of his other work...

#27 - Angel

&quot;The new crop of sci-fi writers are really lousy storytellers, not to mention many fantasy writers and their trilogies..&quot;

I agree. I&#039;ve tried, but the current generation of SF just leaves me cold - I find it just like rock music since the 80s; anytime it seems any good, it turns out it&#039;s because it rips off some past great. These people figure (rightly) that most of their audience has never read - or heard, as the case may be - the originals, so their thefts go unnoticed.

I have yet to read a fantasist worth a shit since Zelazny and LeGuin and I&#039;ve given up trying. I doubt that Amber and Earthsea will be surpassed anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28 &#8211; BR </p>
<p>Russell&#8217;s books are not easy to come by, as he is, like Vance and Dick, somewhat of an acquired taste, and has a small but devoted following. Be forewarned, if you&#8217;re not already aware, that he most emphatically was NOT a hard-SF practicioner; he was a keen observer of humanity and often a very droll satirist. Obviously some background can be found<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Frank_Russell" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> in the usual place, </a> and I think that everyone should read<a href="http://tmh.floonet.net/books/tge/tgetoc.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> The Great Explosion.</a> If you enjoy it, you&#8217;ll enjoy any and all of his other work&#8230;</p>
<p>#27 &#8211; Angel</p>
<p>&#8220;The new crop of sci-fi writers are really lousy storytellers, not to mention many fantasy writers and their trilogies..&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree. I&#8217;ve tried, but the current generation of SF just leaves me cold &#8211; I find it just like rock music since the 80s; anytime it seems any good, it turns out it&#8217;s because it rips off some past great. These people figure (rightly) that most of their audience has never read &#8211; or heard, as the case may be &#8211; the originals, so their thefts go unnoticed.</p>
<p>I have yet to read a fantasist worth a shit since Zelazny and LeGuin and I&#8217;ve given up trying. I doubt that Amber and Earthsea will be surpassed anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Footfall, by Pournelle and Niven, is actually a story about how US authorities assemble a group of SF writers whose job it is to brainstorm ideas about repelling an Alien invasion of Earth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Footfall, by Pournelle and Niven, is actually a story about how US authorities assemble a group of SF writers whose job it is to brainstorm ideas about repelling an Alien invasion of Earth</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-650224</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay! I get the last post! (well, maybe). Global Warmer, &lt;i&gt;Real SF writers are some of our brightest and most forward thinking people. Getting them involved in any advisory capacity can only be a good thing.&lt;/i&gt;

Darned right.  Imagination seems to somewhat lacking in the current (or some) past administrations.  Hey, 1600 Penn., Ave,. beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay! I get the last post! (well, maybe). Global Warmer, <i>Real SF writers are some of our brightest and most forward thinking people. Getting them involved in any advisory capacity can only be a good thing.</i></p>
<p>Darned right.  Imagination seems to somewhat lacking in the current (or some) past administrations.  Hey, 1600 Penn., Ave,. beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life here.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-650010</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26, Lauren, I didn&#039;t forget them.  I just remember reading them later in life than the ones I mentioned.  Brunner and Aldiss are favorites, as well as Vance. Farmer wrote many really good works, and unfortunately, I&#039;m not very familiar with Russell.  I think I&#039;ve only read one book of his.  Could you recommend a few? Thanks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26, Lauren, I didn&#8217;t forget them.  I just remember reading them later in life than the ones I mentioned.  Brunner and Aldiss are favorites, as well as Vance. Farmer wrote many really good works, and unfortunately, I&#8217;m not very familiar with Russell.  I think I&#8217;ve only read one book of his.  Could you recommend a few? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26

I miss ALL of them..

The new crop of sci-fi writers are really lousy storytellers, not to mention many fantasy writers and their trilogies..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26</p>
<p>I miss ALL of them..</p>
<p>The new crop of sci-fi writers are really lousy storytellers, not to mention many fantasy writers and their trilogies..</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren the Ghoti</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-649904</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren the Ghoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 - old cranky geek

&quot;Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Pohl (who I think still writes), Bradbury, Philip Dick, Sturgeon, Simak?&quot;

How could you forget John Brunner, Brian Aldiss, Philip José Farmer, Jack Vance and Eric Frank Russell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 &#8211; old cranky geek</p>
<p>&#8220;Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Pohl (who I think still writes), Bradbury, Philip Dick, Sturgeon, Simak?&#8221;</p>
<p>How could you forget John Brunner, Brian Aldiss, Philip José Farmer, Jack Vance and Eric Frank Russell?</p>
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		<title>By: TJGeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me &quot;skiffy&quot; (thanks, VenomMonger) is still going strong. Thinking at this moment of Richard Morgan&#039;s Takeshi Kovacs novels, starting with &lt;i&gt;Altered Carbon&lt;/i&gt;, as fine examples of gonzo writing and thinly disguised revolutionary lit. But there are many other first-rate SF writers practicing the trade, and the state of politics certainly invites the traditional SF role of satirizing current trends and puncturing holy delusions. Angel seems to feel government sponsorship will ruin a writer, but hell, maybe the writers will improve the government instead. Is it time for my meds yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me &#8220;skiffy&#8221; (thanks, VenomMonger) is still going strong. Thinking at this moment of Richard Morgan&#8217;s Takeshi Kovacs novels, starting with <i>Altered Carbon</i>, as fine examples of gonzo writing and thinly disguised revolutionary lit. But there are many other first-rate SF writers practicing the trade, and the state of politics certainly invites the traditional SF role of satirizing current trends and puncturing holy delusions. Angel seems to feel government sponsorship will ruin a writer, but hell, maybe the writers will improve the government instead. Is it time for my meds yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-649738</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sci-fi writers assembled and paid to work for the goverment... They might as well start selling snake oil &#039;cause nothing sucks more than a goverment sponsored writer than a religion invented by a cheap sci-fi writer who didn&#039;t want to pay his taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sci-fi writers assembled and paid to work for the goverment&#8230; They might as well start selling snake oil &#8217;cause nothing sucks more than a goverment sponsored writer than a religion invented by a cheap sci-fi writer who didn&#8217;t want to pay his taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/30/sci-fi-writers-join-war-on-terror/comment-page-1/#comment-649616</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18, venom monger &lt;i&gt;Jubal Hershaw as a primary role model.)&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, he was always surrounded by babes :)  Front!!  And a &quot;fair witness.&quot;  Anne, what color is that house?  Jubal, on this side it appears to be painted white.

Now &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; a fair witness.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18, venom monger <i>Jubal Hershaw as a primary role model.)</i></p>
<p>Yes, he was always surrounded by babes <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Front!!  And a &#8220;fair witness.&#8221;  Anne, what color is that house?  Jubal, on this side it appears to be painted white.</p>
<p>Now <i>that&#8217;s</i> a fair witness.</p>
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		<title>By: tallwookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>tallwookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11 - I like that one - it seems almost plausible...

I&#039;m glad sci-fi authors are getting something good out of this so called &quot;war on terror&quot;  Sci-fi writers have been influencing me for many years, and its about time they get some respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 &#8211; I like that one &#8211; it seems almost plausible&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad sci-fi authors are getting something good out of this so called &#8220;war on terror&#8221;  Sci-fi writers have been influencing me for many years, and its about time they get some respect.</p>
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		<title>By: TheGlobalWarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheGlobalWarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 - the one thing about JH that bugs me is his reversal on Evolution and endorsement of Intelligent Design.  He even wove ID into the belief system of the Thuriens in the latest Giants novel, which was dissappointing.   Excellent stories otherwise.  

What&#039;s really dissapointing in SF is the schlock Hollywood gives us when there are so many books out there that could make great movies.  With everything they spend on CGI and actor&#039;s salaries, you can&#039;t tell me the added cost of rights to a good book would break the bank.

Real SF writers are some of our brightest and most forward thinking people.  Getting them involved in any advisory capacity can only be a good thing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 &#8211; the one thing about JH that bugs me is his reversal on Evolution and endorsement of Intelligent Design.  He even wove ID into the belief system of the Thuriens in the latest Giants novel, which was dissappointing.   Excellent stories otherwise.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s really dissapointing in SF is the schlock Hollywood gives us when there are so many books out there that could make great movies.  With everything they spend on CGI and actor&#8217;s salaries, you can&#8217;t tell me the added cost of rights to a good book would break the bank.</p>
<p>Real SF writers are some of our brightest and most forward thinking people.  Getting them involved in any advisory capacity can only be a good thing.</p>
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