Comments on: Man Described As a Top Spammer Arrested http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:24:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BubbaRay http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-2/#comment-650222 BubbaRay Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:58:22 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-650222 #22, RBG, if you're using Firefox, just download the AdBlock add-on thru tools / add-ons, and you'll never see those double underlined ads again. #22, RBG, if you’re using Firefox, just download the AdBlock add-on thru tools / add-ons, and you’ll never see those double underlined ads again.

]]> By: Mr. Fusion http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-2/#comment-650142 Mr. Fusion Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:05:46 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-650142 #17, MikeN Why oh why do the right wing nut Bush apologists like to blame the victims? #17, MikeN

Why oh why do the right wing nut Bush apologists like to blame the victims?

]]> By: RBG http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-2/#comment-650085 RBG Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:22:33 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-650085 Now if we could just get rid of those annoying randomly highlighted, underlined words that have text balloons attached to them in this blog. They SEEM to change THE meaning of what WE say by artificially STRESSING words FROM our sentences THAT should NOT necessarily be stressed. NEXT, expect all our words WILL have SPONSORS attached TO each one. RBG Now if we could just get rid of those annoying randomly highlighted, underlined words that have text balloons attached to them in this blog. They SEEM to change THE meaning of what WE say by artificially STRESSING words FROM our sentences THAT should NOT necessarily be stressed. NEXT, expect all our words WILL have SPONSORS attached TO each one.

RBG

]]> By: Phillep http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-2/#comment-649884 Phillep Thu, 31 May 2007 22:07:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649884 Maybe he could get a poke in the nose for each person who complains about the spam he is responsible for. Any bets on how long it takes to decapitate him? Maybe he could get a poke in the nose for each person who complains about the spam he is responsible for.

Any bets on how long it takes to decapitate him?

]]> By: Joe http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649708 Joe Thu, 31 May 2007 18:48:56 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649708 I GET NO SPAM I GET NO SPAM

]]> By: BubbaRay http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649677 BubbaRay Thu, 31 May 2007 18:27:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649677 #16, J/P=? <i>I like the term ‘early bird’ for the worm-seeking ‘bot.</i> A nice moniker. Gibson's approach would be a good thing, too bad it's "illegal", I would like to see those "early birds" fly right into the net. #16, J/P=? I like the term ‘early bird’ for the worm-seeking ‘bot.

A nice moniker. Gibson’s approach would be a good thing, too bad it’s “illegal”, I would like to see those “early birds” fly right into the net.

]]> By: Olo Baggins of Bywater http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649643 Olo Baggins of Bywater Thu, 31 May 2007 17:53:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649643 17, do you work for a company that sells online ads and "helper" software? That's the same attitude they have. And I think you're nuts, by the way. :-) 17, do you work for a company that sells online ads and “helper” software? That’s the same attitude they have. And I think you’re nuts, by the way. :-)

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649637 MikeN Thu, 31 May 2007 17:48:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649637 I think the government is creating more spammers than it destroys. They shouldn't be going after people for using technology. If people's computers are infected, it's their fault for broadcasting in such an unsecure and vulnerable state. People need to make digital downloading(which is what e-mail is) work for them. I think the government is creating more spammers than it destroys.
They shouldn’t be going after people for using technology. If people’s computers are infected, it’s their fault for broadcasting in such an unsecure and vulnerable state. People need to make digital downloading(which is what e-mail is) work for them.

]]> By: John Paradox http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649629 John Paradox Thu, 31 May 2007 17:43:43 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649629 <i>Steve Gibson proposed an anti-spam bot that could be easily targeted to the originating zombie machines and automatically disinfect them, but he correctly states that this cure would be as illegal as the original infectious software. What a catch-22.</i> Actually, he was talking about worms on 'legacy' machines (servers in closets type of thing, notably the Government and University machines that got infected somehow). I like the concept, but it has its problems, too. I like the term 'early bird' for the worm-seeking 'bot. J/P=? Steve Gibson proposed an anti-spam bot that could be easily targeted to the originating zombie machines and automatically disinfect them, but he correctly states that this cure would be as illegal as the original infectious software. What a catch-22.

Actually, he was talking about worms on ‘legacy’ machines (servers in closets type of thing, notably the Government and University machines that got infected somehow). I like the concept, but it has its problems, too.
I like the term ‘early bird’ for the worm-seeking ‘bot.

J/P=?

]]> By: MSwanberg http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649620 MSwanberg Thu, 31 May 2007 17:36:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649620 #1 and #2, no that's not practical, nor is it really very possible. All they have, possibly, is a list of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of IP addresses. They would have to take each spam message, check out the header, get the originating REAL IP address (not any spoofed ones) and the time it was relayed, then subpoena each address' ISP to find out who was using the address at that time, then attempt to get an email address for that person (which would also mean a subpoena to the ISP), and even then what? I can tell you, if you subpoenaed my ISP for my email address, it wouldn't get you my REAL email address that I use. Probably the best thing would be to gather the IP addresses and get the ISPs to cut them off so that they have to call in to get reconnected, at which point they could be informed that their machines have been co-opted and they need to clean them before they can be re-connected. But that would probably bring a huge backlash from consumers. -Mike #1 and #2, no that’s not practical, nor is it really very possible. All they have, possibly, is a list of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of IP addresses. They would have to take each spam message, check out the header, get the originating REAL IP address (not any spoofed ones) and the time it was relayed, then subpoena each address’ ISP to find out who was using the address at that time, then attempt to get an email address for that person (which would also mean a subpoena to the ISP), and even then what? I can tell you, if you subpoenaed my ISP for my email address, it wouldn’t get you my REAL email address that I use.

Probably the best thing would be to gather the IP addresses and get the ISPs to cut them off so that they have to call in to get reconnected, at which point they could be informed that their machines have been co-opted and they need to clean them before they can be re-connected. But that would probably bring a huge backlash from consumers.

-Mike

]]> By: Les http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649609 Les Thu, 31 May 2007 17:27:23 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649609 #13 are you serious? You have just confirmed your email adress for them! #13 are you serious? You have just confirmed your email adress for them!

]]> By: bobbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649587 bobbo Thu, 31 May 2007 17:04:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649587 Why aren't the companies that use spam also liable? They are dead simple to spot? I send them email saying since I got their spam, I will look solely to their competitors for product, but for some reason, I still get spam. Somebody ain't doin their jobs!!! Why aren’t the companies that use spam also liable? They are dead simple to spot? I send them email saying since I got their spam, I will look solely to their competitors for product, but for some reason, I still get spam.

Somebody ain’t doin their jobs!!!

]]> By: BubbaRay http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649582 BubbaRay Thu, 31 May 2007 17:01:21 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649582 #10, Greg, the spam always refers back to the originating spammer, in this case Robert Soloway. Steve Gibson proposed an anti-spam bot that could be easily targeted to the originating zombie machines and automatically disinfect them, but he correctly states that this cure would be as illegal as the original infectious software. What a catch-22. Why not allow good bots on the net that can disinfect our machines with our permission? #10, Greg, the spam always refers back to the originating spammer, in this case Robert Soloway. Steve Gibson proposed an anti-spam bot that could be easily targeted to the originating zombie machines and automatically disinfect them, but he correctly states that this cure would be as illegal as the original infectious software. What a catch-22.

Why not allow good bots on the net that can disinfect our machines with our permission?

]]> By: mark http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649580 mark Thu, 31 May 2007 16:59:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649580 10. One would think that would be the case. I mean, they can track anything these days, it just doesnt make sense that they couldnt get all the spammers, its probably Bin Laden doing it. 10. One would think that would be the case. I mean, they can track anything these days, it just doesnt make sense that they couldnt get all the spammers, its probably Bin Laden doing it.

]]> By: Greg Allen http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/05/31/man-described-as-a-top-spammer-arrested/comment-page-1/#comment-649543 Greg Allen Thu, 31 May 2007 16:23:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11710#comment-649543 Maybe you guys can answer this question for me: How do spammers like this guy do business? They have to find clients, negotiate prices, receive funds, etc. Shouldn't they be relatively easy to get with a sting operation? Maybe you guys can answer this question for me:

How do spammers like this guy do business? They have to find clients, negotiate prices, receive funds, etc. Shouldn’t they be relatively easy to get with a sting operation?

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