Do you want your children to learn about chemistry? Be careful, you could be breaking the law

Why not just outlaw thinking?

This shouldn’t be a surprise. Since 9-11-01, the BATF has been trying to outlaw the hobby of model rocketry. They are doing it by trying to restrict the sale and transport of the solid model rocket engines.

“Might be used by a terrorist – think of the children!!”

You might as well make everyone with an IQ greater than 120 a munition and lock them up. Just to be safe.

And remember, a dumbed down populace always votes Republican.

It’s a liberal thing. As you liberals attack the 2nd amendment you give the elected morons the right to restrict anything and everything that may in one way or another harm somebody. It sounds to me like some here think chemistry is ok if your IQ is above 150. Don’t worry your government will tell you what to eat, smoke and what kind of explosives devices it’s ok to trust you morons with.

Would this have made Don Herbert (Mr. Wizard) a terrorist?

If it’s science it must be bad. Give them a bible instead.

Right. As if meth addicts are going to switch to coffee because they can’t get flasks. It’s like #3 said. The government wastes it’s time going after model rocket motors. Meanwhil,e a terrorist might simply stand by a runway and pepper planes with gunfire rather than try to build a guided missile. Ponderous.

#9

There’s a big difference between restricting weapons (i.e. devices designed to kill things very efficiently) and restricting substances that could be used for a zillion things, of which one is the creation of an illegal drug that only has the potential to kill somebody.

With your reasoning, because we don’t allow people to buy TNT or nukes off the shelf we are on a slippery slope to banning the use of fertilizer. I hope you see how utterly rediculous that is.

That was a great book.

Would restricting sales actually serve any purpose? I seem to remember though that some people making bombs were nabbed because we monitor the amount of fertilizer purchased.

#16,
Chemistry is just a theory anyway …

And an unproven theory too. Much too complicated to happen by random chance.

#19

Sure, regulating sales is one thing. Banning sales is another. There are usually laws limiting how much Tylenol can be bought at any one time to prevent meth production, but nobody’s talking about banning it altogether. Though admittedly another factor is that Big Pharma would scream bloody murder if Tylenol was banned. Nobody gives a rats ass about science in this country.

Anyway, I would be fine if they said you can’t buy more than 10 chem sets at one time ’cause you start getting significant quantities of those chemicals at that point. Unless you have a dozen super genius kids that are in desparate need of mental stimulation, I think that’s perfectly unobtrusive.

Banning miniscule amounts of mostly harmless chemicals and requiring the registration of glassware is…well…Texas. On second thought, I’m not terribly concerned.

>i think we should strip the all the amendments off the constitution from the last say, 30-40yrs and start over.

So no vote for 18 year olds, no line of succession, no vote for DC in presidential elections, and congress’ pay raises take effect right away rather than after the next election.

#26 – raise it to age 40… no one but old people vote anyway

#26 & 27,

As another cantankerous old coot, it almost (but not quite) makes sense. Sespecailly #27, if only old people vote, no need for a law. #26 Aren’t we all really just a bunch of clueless yahoos?

Voluntary human extinction is the way to go.

For the sake of the children, a prudent government bureaucrat should immediately ban vomiting in school under the threat of expulsion!!!!!!!!!!

This heinous act and disregard for student health needs to be criminalize.

There is a very real risk that vomited hydrochloric acid, or stomach acid and formaldehyde mixing and forming a known carcinogen
chloromethoxychloromethane. This is especially possible during fetal pig dissection in lab, because of the noxious formaldehyde fumes and the horrid sight of a dissected specimen.

This is why Leonardo da Vinci’s dissection was condemned by the church. The church was all wise and knew this. Bush and his Bushie cronies are only illuminating us to the wisdom of old.

Again hydrochloric acid (HCl) is a source of Chlorine gas. Exposure to the gas irritates mucous membranes of the eyes and respiratory tract. Concentrations over 35 ppm cause irritation of the throat after short exposure; >100 ppm results in pulmonary edema, and often laryngeal spasm. It may also causes other evils like acid rain downwind. HCl is extremely soluble in condensing water droplets and it is a very “strong acid” (it dissociates extensively to give H+ ions in the droplets).

Stop this evil NOW. BAN ALL BIOLOGY, BAN ALL CHEMISTRY. If God wants us to know the Priestly truths. All other truths should be banned.

We are failing in our IRAQ Crusade because of our over reliance on Science. This country needs to return to the days of the Inquisition. I nominate Karl Rove as the Grand Inquisitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only then can our IRAQ Crusade be successful. be successful.

I still fondly recall a day in high school chem lab. Kid dropped a container on the floor and white fumes rose in abundance. Teacher walked over and stood next to the puddle and said “What are you going to do?” Kid said nothing.

Teacher walked over to a lab table, and poured the contents onto the puddle stopping the fumes. “What Johnny just demonstrated was the acid reacting to the base in the concrete. Adding more base material will stop that chemical reaction.”

All just as cool as a cucumber. That was a pretty exciting day in school that I guess kids wont get anymore. Maybe exercising with how to put on a condum would come pretty close though.

I had a huge chemistry set when I was 11 years old. I never caused any explosions.

This is great news.

Rabinow’s Law VIII states that “Things that are done illegally are done most efficiently” So if kids do science illegally then they will do it well.

Rabinow formulated a number of laws on invention possibly the best known is “To promote inventions (or any art form) just love inventions (or the art form).”

If kids are told they cant do science then perhaps we will have better science. Education has failed why not try something else?