Comments on: Microsoft will start selling its own brand of AMD based PCs! Have OEMs been stabbed in the back?! http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/ General interest observations and true web-log. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Iamanassholetoo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-2/#comment-687721 Iamanassholetoo Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:10:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687721 So Microsloth is helping kids in India become more computer literate and educated.... What about the underprivlidged children in the USA! This country needs to educate OUR children so they can compete with the rest of the world. Seems like a ploy by MS to train and recuit cheap labor from outside the US. So Microsloth is helping kids in India become more computer literate and educated….

What about the underprivlidged children in the USA! This country needs to educate OUR children so they can compete with the rest of the world.

Seems like a ploy by MS to train and recuit cheap labor from outside the US.

]]> By: Daver Lee Lewis http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-2/#comment-687470 Daver Lee Lewis Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:25:01 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687470 Charity starts <strike>at home</strike> abroad. Charity starts at home abroad.

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-2/#comment-687463 pedro Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:16:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687463 #19 What? You could do almost all those things with an intel and mac based computers in 85 (87 the latest). The fact that you didn't does not imply that it wasn't possible. Get better facts! #19 What? You could do almost all those things with an intel and mac based computers in 85 (87 the latest). The fact that you didn’t does not imply that it wasn’t possible. Get better facts!

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-2/#comment-687452 ECA Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:49:17 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687452 17, I do... BUT, should I care more then They do? THEy are letting us, LEAD them into Polution, decadance, poverty, and injustice. 17,
I do…
BUT, should I care more then They do?

THEy are letting us, LEAD them into Polution, decadance, poverty, and injustice.

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-2/#comment-687449 ECA Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:44:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687449 18, You are partly right... Are you old enough to remember when MS was GIVING AWAY PC's?? To schools To small companies They have done this many times. So, then you hae a computer with Nothing but OS... You go get a program.. If work has THIS PC, then I need one like it, to work at home. I dont know if you are old enough to have seen some of the business practices MS has used. They Swamped the market with Intel, everytime an advance/threat came around, so people wouldnt LOOK and compare. And then they HAD to be compatible with What was at the Work place. Even tho the OTHERS could do the same, OR better... 1985...Which would you want. #1 Mono 4-8 bit sound 16-256 colors SMALL monitor #2 Stereo sound 8bit, Midi, wavetables... 65-4096 color 16bit depth SMPTE time based correction to link Audio video Used TV frequencies to display, and a Monitor that could switch to TV view inputs. FULL mutitasking If you picked #2, that WASNT an intell/MS OR Mac/apple machine and was TOP of the line for 15 years, untill about the P 133-200. and the COST was about the same. 18,
You are partly right…
Are you old enough to remember when MS was GIVING AWAY PC’s??
To schools
To small companies

They have done this many times.
So, then you hae a computer with Nothing but OS… You go get a program..

If work has THIS PC, then I need one like it, to work at home.

I dont know if you are old enough to have seen some of the business practices MS has used.
They Swamped the market with Intel, everytime an advance/threat came around, so people wouldnt LOOK and compare. And then they HAD to be compatible with What was at the Work place. Even tho the OTHERS could do the same, OR better…

1985…Which would you want.

#1 Mono 4-8 bit sound
16-256 colors
SMALL monitor

#2 Stereo sound 8bit, Midi, wavetables…
65-4096 color 16bit depth
SMPTE time based correction to link Audio video
Used TV frequencies to display, and a Monitor that could switch to TV view inputs.
FULL mutitasking

If you picked #2, that WASNT an intell/MS OR Mac/apple machine and was TOP of the line for 15 years, untill about the P 133-200. and the COST was about the same.

]]> By: pjakobs http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687424 pjakobs Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:14:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687424 #14 & #16: Microsoft would not be anywhere near their current market position if their software had not been pirated on children's and youngsters' computers for years. Let's face it: kids who pirate software later grow up knowing that software. They will want to use it when they are going to be working on a pc, but more often then not, a company won't be running the risk of running pirated software, so the ISV ends up making a buck anyway. It's just the fact that software has become available that you just cannot pirate. You can't steal Linux. Microsoft knows bloody well that their anti piracy campains together with the availability of a free alternative is a big thread to their future success, so now they're trying to establish an alternative model, I think they're still neglecting that anything short of free will compare badly to Open Source, pricewise. pj #14 & #16: Microsoft would not be anywhere near their current market position if their software had not been pirated on children’s and youngsters’ computers for years.
Let’s face it: kids who pirate software later grow up knowing that software. They will want to use it when they are going to be working on a pc, but more often then not, a company won’t be running the risk of running pirated software, so the ISV ends up making a buck anyway.
It’s just the fact that software has become available that you just cannot pirate. You can’t steal Linux. Microsoft knows bloody well that their anti piracy campains together with the availability of a free alternative is a big thread to their future success, so now they’re trying to establish an alternative model, I think they’re still neglecting that anything short of free will compare badly to Open Source, pricewise.

pj

]]> By: ChrisMac http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687305 ChrisMac Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:16:02 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687305 does anyone here care what happens in india? does anyone here care what happens in india?

]]> By: ECA http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687285 ECA Thu, 28 Jun 2007 06:40:04 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687285 14, BUT...most people in the USA dont know HOw to do it. And being Blamed in the USA for Pirates in other countries is a PAIN. yes there are those that Pirate and sell in the USA, but nothing compared to the Middle east thru S. Asia.. Average Hacking, pirateing in the USA is about 4-10% MAX. 14,
BUT…most people in the USA dont know HOw to do it.
And being Blamed in the USA for Pirates in other countries is a PAIN.
yes there are those that Pirate and sell in the USA, but nothing compared to the Middle east thru S. Asia..
Average Hacking, pirateing in the USA is about 4-10% MAX.

]]> By: OvenMaster http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687092 OvenMaster Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:09:26 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687092 How long does copyright law last, 75 years or so? If they're using that "UP" symbol, then they'd better contact Zenith Radio. They had that copyrighted symbol on their television boxes in the early 1970's. How long does copyright law last, 75 years or so? If they’re using that “UP” symbol, then they’d better contact Zenith Radio. They had that copyrighted symbol on their television boxes in the early 1970′s.

]]> By: SN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687053 SN Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:36:37 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687053 14. <em>"The main way they are cheaper (in India) is with pirated software."</em> And how is that different from anywhere else?! Pirated software costs exactly the same in India as it does in the US: Free! 14. “The main way they are cheaper (in India) is with pirated software.”

And how is that different from anywhere else?! Pirated software costs exactly the same in India as it does in the US: Free!

]]> By: morbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687044 morbo Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:34:24 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687044 Imagine the machine packed with teaser craplets for aging uSoft shovelware. I do like #2's education comment lets extend and embrace that thought to include teasers for the children also, "If you enjoyed those dinosaurs, there are 10 more that can be unlocked with your parents CC information". Actually thinking about this, its a good thing for microsoft as they cannot control the OEMs and their acceptance of trusted computing. Microsoft can leveage AMDs TCG work and ensure from the bios on up the machine wont be a linux/unix box. Imagine the machine packed with teaser craplets for aging uSoft shovelware. I do like #2′s education comment lets extend and embrace that thought to include teasers for the children also, “If you enjoyed those dinosaurs, there are 10 more that can be unlocked with your parents CC information”.

Actually thinking about this, its a good thing for microsoft as they cannot control the OEMs and their acceptance of trusted computing. Microsoft can leveage AMDs TCG work and ensure from the bios on up the machine wont be a linux/unix box.

]]> By: MikeN http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687043 MikeN Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:34:12 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687043 PCs aren't that cheap in India. You can probably get better deals here. I know someone who sold a 7 year old computer for about $300. The main way they are cheaper is with pirated software. PCs aren’t that cheap in India. You can probably get better deals here. I know someone who sold a 7 year old computer for about $300.

The main way they are cheaper is with pirated software.

]]> By: morbo http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687039 morbo Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:30:32 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687039 Imagine the machine packed with teaser craplets for aging uSoft shovelware. I do like #2's education comment lets extend and embrace that thought to include teasers for the children also, "If you enjoyed those dinosaurs, there are 10 more that can be unlocked with your parents CC information". Imagine the machine packed with teaser craplets for aging uSoft shovelware. I do like #2′s education comment lets extend and embrace that thought to include teasers for the children also, “If you enjoyed those dinosaurs, there are 10 more that can be unlocked with your parents CC information”.

]]> By: Anonymous Coward http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687038 Anonymous Coward Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:29:50 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687038 That U-P should be Ubuntu Preferred. That U-P should be Ubuntu Preferred.

]]> By: Jägermeister http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/27/microsoft-will-start-selling-its-own-brand-of-amd-based-pcs-to-educational-markets-are-dell-and-other-oems-being-stabbed-in-the-back/comment-page-1/#comment-687010 Jägermeister Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:46:30 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=12280#comment-687010 #10 Hehe... Yeah, the curve on the P looks like his boobs. #10

Hehe… Yeah, the curve on the P looks like his boobs.

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