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		<title>By: steven</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-1503068</link>
		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the enquiry<br />
    Good day to you,Yes we sell</p>
<p>16GB Apple iPhone 3G&#8230;&#8230;. $180<br />
Shipping cost&#8230;..$50</p>
<p>Total Cost&#8230;..$230</p>
<p>Minimum Order Quantity..3 Units<br />
Buy 3 Units get 1 Units free,Plus free shipment </p>
<p>Include in Box</p>
<p>16GB Apple iPhone 3G<br />
Stereo Headset with mic<br />
Dock<br />
Dock Connector to USB Cable<br />
USB Power Adapter<br />
Documentation<br />
Cleaning/polishing cloth<br />
SIM eject tool </p>
<p> This is Brand new unlocked phone sealed in the original company box with complete accessories and also with 2 year international warranty from the manufacturer and 7 Months Return Policy money back Guarantee,</p>
<p>Shipping is Via UPS/FedEx international Courier service and the delivery at your door step is within 48 hour after your payment confirmation</p>
<p>Payment is through Western union money transfer or MoneyGramm.</p>
<p>We are Serious and legit seller and we are ready to treat your order soundly and smoothly the best way a customer deserve ok,all we need to process your  order is your full name,shipping address and contact phone number so do reply back now with the details thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Fred19</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-1152969</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Order now apple iphones:16gb,8gb,nokia n95 with 8gb and hp labtop arebin stock.Contact via Email&#124;:fred19smith@hotmail.com/fred19smith&#124;@yahoo.com
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-692220</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that the anti-iPhone guys here lost this argument yet can&#039;t shut up. There&#039;s a definition for people like this: Losers.

#41 - Well stated. The EDGE network is working well enough for me, but I&#039;m also heavily using WiFi. If I had to use EDGE the majority of the time it would be another conversation.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that the anti-iPhone guys here lost this argument yet can&#8217;t shut up. There&#8217;s a definition for people like this: Losers.</p>
<p>#41 &#8211; Well stated. The EDGE network is working well enough for me, but I&#8217;m also heavily using WiFi. If I had to use EDGE the majority of the time it would be another conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-692193</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#42 said: &quot;Why are you so bitter about that?&quot;

For a concise answer, read #43. Better answer than I could have written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#42 said: &#8220;Why are you so bitter about that?&#8221;</p>
<p>For a concise answer, read #43. Better answer than I could have written.</p>
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		<title>By: mauvis</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-691580</link>
		<dc:creator>mauvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#45 Havent you found nothing better to listen to for the last  20 years?

Those extremes doesnt help anyone. 
For extreme praise or for hate what does it take? 
A bunch of people with nothing better to do. 
Dont suffer all the hype about a cell phone. Find something else to do, please! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45 Havent you found nothing better to listen to for the last  20 years?</p>
<p>Those extremes doesnt help anyone.<br />
For extreme praise or for hate what does it take?<br />
A bunch of people with nothing better to do.<br />
Dont suffer all the hype about a cell phone. Find something else to do, please!</p>
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		<title>By: GregA</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-691519</link>
		<dc:creator>GregA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44,

Because after listening to apple fanboys for 20+ years now I want apple to fail and fail baddly in a very public way so that they just shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#44,</p>
<p>Because after listening to apple fanboys for 20+ years now I want apple to fail and fail baddly in a very public way so that they just shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: hhopper</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-691325</link>
		<dc:creator>hhopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand all the bickering over the iPhone.  It&#039;s a cool device.  I just don&#039;t want one myself.  I don&#039;t need all the functions.  And I like the cellular service I have now.  Alltel has much better signal coverage in my area than AT&amp;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand all the bickering over the iPhone.  It&#8217;s a cool device.  I just don&#8217;t want one myself.  I don&#8217;t need all the functions.  And I like the cellular service I have now.  Alltel has much better signal coverage in my area than AT&#038;T.</p>
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		<title>By: Podesta</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-691306</link>
		<dc:creator>Podesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I waited in line for the iPhone for the experience.  One doesn&#039;t get to experience the advent of something that will change technology every day.  Furthermore, it is fun talking to fellow fans and browsing even more of them in iPhone lines all over America while waiting.   I think that what the Pedros of the world most fail to understand is: Life is short.  You should try to enjoy it while you can.   Here&#039;s hoping someone introduces these people to pleasure before they die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I waited in line for the iPhone for the experience.  One doesn&#8217;t get to experience the advent of something that will change technology every day.  Furthermore, it is fun talking to fellow fans and browsing even more of them in iPhone lines all over America while waiting.   I think that what the Pedros of the world most fail to understand is: Life is short.  You should try to enjoy it while you can.   Here&#8217;s hoping someone introduces these people to pleasure before they die.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-691170</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pedro, that at least made me laugh, well done.

No I didn&#039;t camp out for the 360, I got one a month ago. Camping out is for idiots (example - I just walked into the SF Apple store and bought one on Sat, in and out in 5 mins tops).

I&#039;m not trying to evangelize the iPhone, you either want it or you don&#039;t. You seem to have missed where I was asked about the iPhones performance - I answered the questions, not randomly pimped the phone.

And you&#039;re right - it&#039;s just a phone, I am, and I was using it. Not trying to justify anything. You&#039;re the one that seems to have their panties in a bunch over it... with all the nerd and star wars insults. I bought it because I needed a net capable phone... and I&#039;m enjoying it as such, nothing more nothing less. I never claimed browsing the net was new, that&#039;s your little strawman.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pedro, that at least made me laugh, well done.</p>
<p>No I didn&#8217;t camp out for the 360, I got one a month ago. Camping out is for idiots (example &#8211; I just walked into the SF Apple store and bought one on Sat, in and out in 5 mins tops).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to evangelize the iPhone, you either want it or you don&#8217;t. You seem to have missed where I was asked about the iPhones performance &#8211; I answered the questions, not randomly pimped the phone.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right &#8211; it&#8217;s just a phone, I am, and I was using it. Not trying to justify anything. You&#8217;re the one that seems to have their panties in a bunch over it&#8230; with all the nerd and star wars insults. I bought it because I needed a net capable phone&#8230; and I&#8217;m enjoying it as such, nothing more nothing less. I never claimed browsing the net was new, that&#8217;s your little strawman.</p>
<p>Why are you so bitter about that?</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-3/#comment-691165</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#39.  In a number of cases, CNET has tilted the balance for me either for or against a tech item.  Most recently, it was my current TV.  They (and their reader reviewers who chime in with real-world experience) haven&#039;t led me wrong, yet.

Hype like this will inevitably provoke a backlash because said hyped device - in addition to being a very slick piece of tech - does have flaws, and some of those flaws will be deal-breakers for some people.

I tend not to take the absolutist detractors seriously, but give more attention to those who point out specifics that they have a problem with.  Edge was a definite trade-off for Apple (battery life and coverage map vs. speed), and those trade-offs will get a lot of attention.  Me, I will very likely wait for a faster connection, since I would probably use it primarily as an internet device.

More subjective complaints about the touch-screen UI have to be taken with a grain of salt - I distinctly remember a BYTE columnist in the 80s who said that the mouse would never catch on because people would not want to take their hands off the keyboard.  A personal preference rears its head in the guise of an objective evaluation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#39.  In a number of cases, CNET has tilted the balance for me either for or against a tech item.  Most recently, it was my current TV.  They (and their reader reviewers who chime in with real-world experience) haven&#8217;t led me wrong, yet.</p>
<p>Hype like this will inevitably provoke a backlash because said hyped device &#8211; in addition to being a very slick piece of tech &#8211; does have flaws, and some of those flaws will be deal-breakers for some people.</p>
<p>I tend not to take the absolutist detractors seriously, but give more attention to those who point out specifics that they have a problem with.  Edge was a definite trade-off for Apple (battery life and coverage map vs. speed), and those trade-offs will get a lot of attention.  Me, I will very likely wait for a faster connection, since I would probably use it primarily as an internet device.</p>
<p>More subjective complaints about the touch-screen UI have to be taken with a grain of salt &#8211; I distinctly remember a BYTE columnist in the 80s who said that the mouse would never catch on because people would not want to take their hands off the keyboard.  A personal preference rears its head in the guise of an objective evaluation.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-2/#comment-691114</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>having used this for a whole day now, i can truly say that any shortcomings pale in comparison to how amazing the things it does do are. I expect that many of the missing features, such as MMS, will be added in a future software update</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having used this for a whole day now, i can truly say that any shortcomings pale in comparison to how amazing the things it does do are. I expect that many of the missing features, such as MMS, will be added in a future software update</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-2/#comment-691107</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29 - Going with CNET, are you? I remember when I took them seriously, too.

Nevertheless, I wish EDGE was faster... But the speed difference between it and Verizon&#039;s EVDO is negligable to me.

As for your comments regarding the detractors, I&#039;m having a hard time taking even the serious ones seriously: All of them tend to talk more about the hype than the specs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29 &#8211; Going with CNET, are you? I remember when I took them seriously, too.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I wish EDGE was faster&#8230; But the speed difference between it and Verizon&#8217;s EVDO is negligable to me.</p>
<p>As for your comments regarding the detractors, I&#8217;m having a hard time taking even the serious ones seriously: All of them tend to talk more about the hype than the specs.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-2/#comment-691046</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> “There’s a sucker born every minute.”

...and, it&#039;s yours for the taken. Feed it! Embrace it!

Taken from Steve Jobs road journals. I really don&#039;t think he thinks any different than any other CEO.

#35 said: &quot;but please - come up with something that makes you sounds more intelligent than the people I hear on XBox Live?&quot;

You see? that was another &quot;camp out&quot; I missed. By your statement, I bet you were there too. What serial number does your xbox (I bet you have the 360 with the HD) have, 10? You have to have the 360, since I know it&#039;s waaaay better than the old, useless plain xbox. With the 360, you can play games...for the first time, much like you can post in here with your iphone ..for the first time, because no one was able to post with mobiles before the coming of the iphone. Cripes!

As BubbaRay said, it&#039;s just another damn phone. Use it, period! Stop trying to convince us about the same garbage you all convinced yourselves with to justify the expense &amp; being in line for days just to buy a...phone. BTW, how many of those in the lines were playing with their star wars lightsabers to kill time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“There’s a sucker born every minute.”</p>
<p>&#8230;and, it&#8217;s yours for the taken. Feed it! Embrace it!</p>
<p>Taken from Steve Jobs road journals. I really don&#8217;t think he thinks any different than any other CEO.</p>
<p>#35 said: &#8220;but please &#8211; come up with something that makes you sounds more intelligent than the people I hear on XBox Live?&#8221;</p>
<p>You see? that was another &#8220;camp out&#8221; I missed. By your statement, I bet you were there too. What serial number does your xbox (I bet you have the 360 with the HD) have, 10? You have to have the 360, since I know it&#8217;s waaaay better than the old, useless plain xbox. With the 360, you can play games&#8230;for the first time, much like you can post in here with your iphone ..for the first time, because no one was able to post with mobiles before the coming of the iphone. Cripes!</p>
<p>As BubbaRay said, it&#8217;s just another damn phone. Use it, period! Stop trying to convince us about the same garbage you all convinced yourselves with to justify the expense &amp; being in line for days just to buy a&#8230;phone. BTW, how many of those in the lines were playing with their star wars lightsabers to kill time?</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/06/30/slow-att-activation-infuriating-new-iphone-buyers/comment-page-2/#comment-691037</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 13:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34, Gregory, you are correct.  Perhaps I&#039;m just extra cranky because of all the flooding and no clear skies for the past 10 days = no scope time.  But lots of time to catch up on reading. :) 

Heck, I love a new toy as much as anyone, but all this hype, moaning, whining, etc.??  It&#039;s just a (really expensive) phone!  

#36, faustus, Correct me if wrong, but I think it was PTBarnum who said &quot;There&#039;s a sucker born every minute.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34, Gregory, you are correct.  Perhaps I&#8217;m just extra cranky because of all the flooding and no clear skies for the past 10 days = no scope time.  But lots of time to catch up on reading. <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Heck, I love a new toy as much as anyone, but all this hype, moaning, whining, etc.??  It&#8217;s just a (really expensive) phone!  </p>
<p>#36, faustus, Correct me if wrong, but I think it was PTBarnum who said &#8220;There&#8217;s a sucker born every minute.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: faustus</title>
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		<dc:creator>faustus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steven jobs... the tom sawyer of our times, discovered the same thing as mark twain&#039;s hero did when it came time to white washing aunt pollie&#039;s fence that being &quot;the great law of human action&quot;....which is... the only thing to make a man or boy covet a thing is... to make it difficult to obtain.  I view all those who stood in the sun for hours and hours... gleefully... no smarter than tom sawyers poor &quot;friends&quot; that white washed aunt polley&#039;s fence for him while he sat in the shade eating apples. wasn&#039;t it MT or was it SJ that coined the phrase about a sucker being born ever hour???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steven jobs&#8230; the tom sawyer of our times, discovered the same thing as mark twain&#8217;s hero did when it came time to white washing aunt pollie&#8217;s fence that being &#8220;the great law of human action&#8221;&#8230;.which is&#8230; the only thing to make a man or boy covet a thing is&#8230; to make it difficult to obtain.  I view all those who stood in the sun for hours and hours&#8230; gleefully&#8230; no smarter than tom sawyers poor &#8220;friends&#8221; that white washed aunt polley&#8217;s fence for him while he sat in the shade eating apples. wasn&#8217;t it MT or was it SJ that coined the phrase about a sucker being born ever hour???</p>
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