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		<title>By: Kaparen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaparen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the fuzz about Gov/MS (hand in hand with other bullies) have interests in your behaviour, what&#039;s on your disk, mail etc.
Features that&#039;s been included since Win98 ?? =o)



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the fuzz about Gov/MS (hand in hand with other bullies) have interests in your behaviour, what&#8217;s on your disk, mail etc.<br />
Features that&#8217;s been included since Win98 ?? =o)</p>
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		<title>By: sayuncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>sayuncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man you are all slow learners.  I gave up on microsoft products sometime around dos5.0.  I relunctantly gave into other things later on just because the software (game usually) would not run on my current os.  So I have a computer with 98SE and another with ME.  I&#039;ll be going for NIX next machine upgrade.

No one&#039;s noticed the never ending consumer loop?  New software requires bigger badder faster computer.  New OS means new software and then again bigger badder faster machine.  

Now, if MS would ever bother to perfect something prior to release...something they have never done, that would be one thing, but the business of selling crap continuously, consumers all sing BAH in unison, while bending over.

Oh, for the record, the only MS product I ever bought was a dos1.0 to run on an antique I had.  All the rest were donated to me from my brother when he upgraded to the newer crap.  AT least my crap was free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man you are all slow learners.  I gave up on microsoft products sometime around dos5.0.  I relunctantly gave into other things later on just because the software (game usually) would not run on my current os.  So I have a computer with 98SE and another with ME.  I&#8217;ll be going for NIX next machine upgrade.</p>
<p>No one&#8217;s noticed the never ending consumer loop?  New software requires bigger badder faster computer.  New OS means new software and then again bigger badder faster machine.  </p>
<p>Now, if MS would ever bother to perfect something prior to release&#8230;something they have never done, that would be one thing, but the business of selling crap continuously, consumers all sing BAH in unison, while bending over.</p>
<p>Oh, for the record, the only MS product I ever bought was a dos1.0 to run on an antique I had.  All the rest were donated to me from my brother when he upgraded to the newer crap.  AT least my crap was free.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/07/22/vista-is-allowing-the-government-to-spy-on-computers/comment-page-2/#comment-718810</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33

You&#039;re going to add Thousands of cat photos?</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re going to add Thousands of cat photos?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/07/22/vista-is-allowing-the-government-to-spy-on-computers/comment-page-2/#comment-718551</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still listening for a compelling reason to buy VISTA. 

Anything I want to do I can do with XP. I have a firewall and run AV. If I want to watch TV, there is one in my living room and bedroom. If I want to listen to music I can put something for background while I work at the computer or I can relax in the living room for the high end stuff. If I want a pretty looking desktop, I have one now.

I just removed Ubuntu. Not because it was a bad system. I just didn&#039;t use it and I wanted to use that HDD to store more photographs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still listening for a compelling reason to buy VISTA. </p>
<p>Anything I want to do I can do with XP. I have a firewall and run AV. If I want to watch TV, there is one in my living room and bedroom. If I want to listen to music I can put something for background while I work at the computer or I can relax in the living room for the high end stuff. If I want a pretty looking desktop, I have one now.</p>
<p>I just removed Ubuntu. Not because it was a bad system. I just didn&#8217;t use it and I wanted to use that HDD to store more photographs.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Harawitz</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/07/22/vista-is-allowing-the-government-to-spy-on-computers/comment-page-2/#comment-718395</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Harawitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been  a  supporter of Microsoft and a Windows user and booster for longer than I care to remember. Not any more -- for a variety of reasons -- mostly because of its use of ithe Internet to spy on my computer. 

I really would like a new laptop computer for music performance but I will not buy one with Vista on it. XP works just fine with my music applications and hardware. Vista can only mean brand new driver problems -- even though I am using the external gear I have had for years! And, that&#039;s not to mention the way the new kernel has been bound to DRM and, now, the latest spy controversy. And, of course, the usual bunch of bugs that are rampant in any new operating system will certainly plague Vista. 

Why are we being forced to buy an operating system that we don&#039;t want or need? If Microsoft wants an income stream why not issue annual updates and mods to their existing system? They could offer subscriptions to that service. It would certainly be much better than having to completely change operating systems every few years.

I too plan to make my next system a Macintosh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been  a  supporter of Microsoft and a Windows user and booster for longer than I care to remember. Not any more &#8212; for a variety of reasons &#8212; mostly because of its use of ithe Internet to spy on my computer. </p>
<p>I really would like a new laptop computer for music performance but I will not buy one with Vista on it. XP works just fine with my music applications and hardware. Vista can only mean brand new driver problems &#8212; even though I am using the external gear I have had for years! And, that&#8217;s not to mention the way the new kernel has been bound to DRM and, now, the latest spy controversy. And, of course, the usual bunch of bugs that are rampant in any new operating system will certainly plague Vista. </p>
<p>Why are we being forced to buy an operating system that we don&#8217;t want or need? If Microsoft wants an income stream why not issue annual updates and mods to their existing system? They could offer subscriptions to that service. It would certainly be much better than having to completely change operating systems every few years.</p>
<p>I too plan to make my next system a Macintosh.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinaedh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cinaedh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My, there are a lot of very defensive Micro$oft fanboys and girls in this thread, just absolutely freaking out about this topic. That seems kind of strange and I don&#039;t even recognize most of the names.

XP was the first operating system I ever installed on my personal computer where I couldn&#039;t identify and close all the open and listening ports. I still can&#039;t. The first dynamically assigned port opens before you even log in to XP and you can close it with a firewall but then the next available dynamically assigned port opens - ad infinitum.

I don&#039;t know why it&#039;s open or why it&#039;s always listening for something to connect to it. I asked but it&#039;s the first question I ever asked on the Internet where I didn&#039;t eventually get a satisfactory answer.

It&#039;s probably nothing but I did immediately switch to Linux, where I either know or can figure out exactly what&#039;s happening on my own computer.

There are many ports continuously open to the Internet on XP and there are good explanations for some of them but it just freaks me out, not being in total control of my own computer. After all, I bought XP but of course I don&#039;t own it. According to the legalese on the package, Micro$oft owns it.

I suspect Vista is a nightmare of mysterious open ports but I&#039;ll never know because I&#039;ll never allow it on my computer. Recently I&#039;ve been setting up a lot of dual boot machines where my friends use Ubuntu on the &#039;Net and XP for games but XP is NOT allowed Internet access. 

This may be the way of the future for intelligent people who don&#039;t like virii, spyware, worms, rootkits, etcetera.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My, there are a lot of very defensive Micro$oft fanboys and girls in this thread, just absolutely freaking out about this topic. That seems kind of strange and I don&#8217;t even recognize most of the names.</p>
<p>XP was the first operating system I ever installed on my personal computer where I couldn&#8217;t identify and close all the open and listening ports. I still can&#8217;t. The first dynamically assigned port opens before you even log in to XP and you can close it with a firewall but then the next available dynamically assigned port opens &#8211; ad infinitum.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why it&#8217;s open or why it&#8217;s always listening for something to connect to it. I asked but it&#8217;s the first question I ever asked on the Internet where I didn&#8217;t eventually get a satisfactory answer.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably nothing but I did immediately switch to Linux, where I either know or can figure out exactly what&#8217;s happening on my own computer.</p>
<p>There are many ports continuously open to the Internet on XP and there are good explanations for some of them but it just freaks me out, not being in total control of my own computer. After all, I bought XP but of course I don&#8217;t own it. According to the legalese on the package, Micro$oft owns it.</p>
<p>I suspect Vista is a nightmare of mysterious open ports but I&#8217;ll never know because I&#8217;ll never allow it on my computer. Recently I&#8217;ve been setting up a lot of dual boot machines where my friends use Ubuntu on the &#8216;Net and XP for games but XP is NOT allowed Internet access. </p>
<p>This may be the way of the future for intelligent people who don&#8217;t like virii, spyware, worms, rootkits, etcetera.</p>
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		<title>By: StyX</title>
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		<dc:creator>StyX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing is that the screenshot is taken using remote desktop, so in fact he could be running any kind of OS on the other side. Also, you can in fact get PeerGuardian 2 to run on Vista, it&#039;s a matter of how badly you want it/need it. It woun&#039;t be running very well, but it&#039;ll show up with a few IP&#039;s now and then just like before. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing is that the screenshot is taken using remote desktop, so in fact he could be running any kind of OS on the other side. Also, you can in fact get PeerGuardian 2 to run on Vista, it&#8217;s a matter of how badly you want it/need it. It woun&#8217;t be running very well, but it&#8217;ll show up with a few IP&#8217;s now and then just like before.</p>
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		<title>By: Tippis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tippis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27

Scroll down to &quot;Download this document from...&quot;</description>
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<p>Scroll down to &#8220;Download this document from&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FUD FUD FUD!!
When will these jerks give up trying to discredit MS using suspect data and questionable (PeerGuardian) methods?!
I&#039;ve been running Vista for ages (RC1) and regularly monitor my ports and traffic and there has never been anything like the image shows.  Perhaps thats because my PC is behind a $20 modem+router that stops dead pretty much all traffic like this!

This jerk is clearly just another apple/FOSS troll trying to change the world to fit his own private worldview!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FUD FUD FUD!!<br />
When will these jerks give up trying to discredit MS using suspect data and questionable (PeerGuardian) methods?!<br />
I&#8217;ve been running Vista for ages (RC1) and regularly monitor my ports and traffic and there has never been anything like the image shows.  Perhaps thats because my PC is behind a $20 modem+router that stops dead pretty much all traffic like this!</p>
<p>This jerk is clearly just another apple/FOSS troll trying to change the world to fit his own private worldview!</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/07/22/vista-is-allowing-the-government-to-spy-on-computers/comment-page-2/#comment-717958</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Have a read at this: ‘I’ve Got Nothing to Hide’ and 
&gt;&gt;Other Misunderstandings of Privacy 

It would be nice if we could read the article, rather than just the abstract claiming that &quot;Solove critiques the nothing to hide argument and exposes its faulty underpinnings.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Have a read at this: ‘I’ve Got Nothing to Hide’ and<br />
&gt;&gt;Other Misunderstandings of Privacy </p>
<p>It would be nice if we could read the article, rather than just the abstract claiming that &#8220;Solove critiques the nothing to hide argument and exposes its faulty underpinnings.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tippis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tippis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12: &quot; No one cares that the government has the ability to tap telephones… Except for paranoid pot smokers, and mobster masterminds.&quot;

Have a read at this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;I&#039;ve Got Nothing to Hide&#039; and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12: &#8221; No one cares that the government has the ability to tap telephones… Except for paranoid pot smokers, and mobster masterminds.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have a read at this: <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">&#8216;I&#8217;ve Got Nothing to Hide&#8217; and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy</a></p>
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		<title>By: SAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think Bush has been pushing Broadband &quot;always on&quot; connections since he has been in office. Average commercial firewalls being able to be easily circumvented by extremely knowlegable computer types?  They want to be able to roam the net willy nilly and check everyones comp out. A few more beers and a roll of Renyolds wrap and as long as my mom doesn&#039;t  come down to the basement and pull the plug on my comp for the night, Ill tell you all about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think Bush has been pushing Broadband &#8220;always on&#8221; connections since he has been in office. Average commercial firewalls being able to be easily circumvented by extremely knowlegable computer types?  They want to be able to roam the net willy nilly and check everyones comp out. A few more beers and a roll of Renyolds wrap and as long as my mom doesn&#8217;t  come down to the basement and pull the plug on my comp for the night, Ill tell you all about it.</p>
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		<title>By: tallwookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>tallwookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Moral Volcano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moral Volcano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax, Halliburton and a number of other companies own a lot of IPs. Just look at the Geo IP database.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax, Halliburton and a number of other companies own a lot of IPs. Just look at the Geo IP database.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that.  It&#039;s just SkyNet.  Nothing to worry about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that.  It&#8217;s just SkyNet.  Nothing to worry about.</p>
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