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	<title>Comments on: Barry Bonds &#8220;elbow armor&#8221; challenged as yet another cheat</title>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/08/barry-bonds-elbow-armor-challenged-as-yet-another-cheat/comment-page-3/#comment-1868863</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 01:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do they sell this elbow guard anywhere ??</description>
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		<title>By: Jeramy Chicoine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeramy Chicoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 04:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to skate on the other side of the ice.</description>
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		<title>By: Rawlings Baseball Gloves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rawlings Baseball Gloves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Early baseball was a game played without gloves. During the slow transition to gloves, a player who continued to play without one was called a barehanded catcher. This did not refer to the position of Catcher, but rather to the practice of catching with bare hands.</description>
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		<title>By: KVolk</title>
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		<dc:creator>KVolk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only have an issue with Bonds because he is a jerk. He is going to pay the price for steriod abuse when he dies in his 50&#039;s and the record he set&#039;s will be broken by Arod in the next 15 years so his fame is even more fleeting. I think all professional athletes should be made to read Marlowes Dr. Faustus to see what kind of decisions they will be facing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only have an issue with Bonds because he is a jerk. He is going to pay the price for steriod abuse when he dies in his 50&#8242;s and the record he set&#8217;s will be broken by Arod in the next 15 years so his fame is even more fleeting. I think all professional athletes should be made to read Marlowes Dr. Faustus to see what kind of decisions they will be facing.</p>
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		<title>By: JoJo Dancer</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/08/barry-bonds-elbow-armor-challenged-as-yet-another-cheat/comment-page-3/#comment-742326</link>
		<dc:creator>JoJo Dancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey JZ, no disrespect man. But it does state &quot;Please leave a comment&quot; for a reason. I don&#039;t think many of us really want to read a blog post unless ofcourse we subscribe to it. Dvorak.org/blog is already a blog which we all are able to &quot;comment&quot; on. 

If you are going to comment a &quot;blog&quot; type post, then maybe it would be best if you um, started your own blog? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey JZ, no disrespect man. But it does state &#8220;Please leave a comment&#8221; for a reason. I don&#8217;t think many of us really want to read a blog post unless ofcourse we subscribe to it. Dvorak.org/blog is already a blog which we all are able to &#8220;comment&#8221; on. </p>
<p>If you are going to comment a &#8220;blog&#8221; type post, then maybe it would be best if you um, started your own blog?</p>
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		<title>By: sdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say let these boneheads do anything and everything they want to &quot;excel&quot; at their stupid sports, and let darwinism sort it out.  they&#039;re all using  performance enhancers, it&#039;s just a questions of semantics and legal grey areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say let these boneheads do anything and everything they want to &#8220;excel&#8221; at their stupid sports, and let darwinism sort it out.  they&#8217;re all using  performance enhancers, it&#8217;s just a questions of semantics and legal grey areas.</p>
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		<title>By: iGlobalWarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>iGlobalWarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bond&#039;s &quot;achievements&quot; are aided and tainted.  Screw him.

Sean Penn is an actor and anything he says about anything other than acting is meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bond&#8217;s &#8220;achievements&#8221; are aided and tainted.  Screw him.</p>
<p>Sean Penn is an actor and anything he says about anything other than acting is meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: jz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t posted for a week since I have been enjoying myself out of the summer heat in the Great White North. I got together with my brothers and we played a lot of sports. I have often envied my older brother&#039;s stamina, but last year I read that people with ADD and ADHD, which he has a mild case of,  have much better stamina than those who don&#039;t. The reason is that they have lower levels of dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine. 

So while Bonds may have taken steroids, it is true that some people have higher levels of steroids to begin with. If sports were all about being totally fair, then we should have doctors take tests, measure all body chemistry, and make sure all chemistries are even. Think that is going to happen anytime soon? 

Bonds also got me to thinking about why I and others watch sports. I remember the movie Vision Quest about a wrestler, and  a speech one of the kid&#039;s mentors made about how watching Pele made him cry. He said that it was amazing to watch a member of his race, the human race, do something so beautiful. Watching Bonds hit, Jordan shoot, Elway throw, or Gretzky pass is art in motion. There isn&#039;t an athlete alive who doesn&#039;t envy their talents. 

As far as why Bonds record is &quot;tainted&quot;, I think it has zero to do with steroids and everything to do with the media. The media hates Bonds; they think he is an ass,and he probably is but so were a lot of legendary baseball talents.  The media envied the spitball pitcher who got away with it but not Bonds. The spitball pitcher kissed the media&#039;s ass while Bonds kicked it. The &quot;issue&quot; has less to do with Bonds cheating than the media not liking him. 

I for one have gotten totally sick of our profit driven media. My younger brother got back from travelling the world and was shocked at how tense the U.S. is compared to elsewhere. The reason is simple: fear sells, and our media is scaring the shit out of us. Pick up a typical magazine and read about all the ways you are going to die: AIDS, global warming etc.  And because of the money, the media is now making news not reporting it. 

Our media has learned that telling you things you want to hear is a great way to pump up the dough too. The entire news media is loaded with people who say, &quot;If I were Barry Bonds, I would do this...&quot; Yes, you and the media are more deserving than Bonds is. 

I can never understand morons who think that if they had Bonds talent, money, or fame, they would do better with it. To all those envious morons, I say go out and make it on your own. I have news for you: Barry Bonds is not holding you back. 

I hope the internet with blogs like this one are the death knell to this media empire. So often I have found the driveby media (an expression borrowed from Rush Limbaugh) is too afraid to say anything controversial. No one in the media had the balls to call Bush&#039;s bluff on Iraq, but Sean Penn went to Iraq and saw first hand Iraq was not a threat to us. 

Maybe you don&#039;t like Sean Penn, but Sean Penn was right about Iraq, and the entire media was wrong. 

I say we celebrate Bonds achievements and tell the media to go screw itself. 










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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t posted for a week since I have been enjoying myself out of the summer heat in the Great White North. I got together with my brothers and we played a lot of sports. I have often envied my older brother&#8217;s stamina, but last year I read that people with ADD and ADHD, which he has a mild case of,  have much better stamina than those who don&#8217;t. The reason is that they have lower levels of dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine. </p>
<p>So while Bonds may have taken steroids, it is true that some people have higher levels of steroids to begin with. If sports were all about being totally fair, then we should have doctors take tests, measure all body chemistry, and make sure all chemistries are even. Think that is going to happen anytime soon? </p>
<p>Bonds also got me to thinking about why I and others watch sports. I remember the movie Vision Quest about a wrestler, and  a speech one of the kid&#8217;s mentors made about how watching Pele made him cry. He said that it was amazing to watch a member of his race, the human race, do something so beautiful. Watching Bonds hit, Jordan shoot, Elway throw, or Gretzky pass is art in motion. There isn&#8217;t an athlete alive who doesn&#8217;t envy their talents. </p>
<p>As far as why Bonds record is &#8220;tainted&#8221;, I think it has zero to do with steroids and everything to do with the media. The media hates Bonds; they think he is an ass,and he probably is but so were a lot of legendary baseball talents.  The media envied the spitball pitcher who got away with it but not Bonds. The spitball pitcher kissed the media&#8217;s ass while Bonds kicked it. The &#8220;issue&#8221; has less to do with Bonds cheating than the media not liking him. </p>
<p>I for one have gotten totally sick of our profit driven media. My younger brother got back from travelling the world and was shocked at how tense the U.S. is compared to elsewhere. The reason is simple: fear sells, and our media is scaring the shit out of us. Pick up a typical magazine and read about all the ways you are going to die: AIDS, global warming etc.  And because of the money, the media is now making news not reporting it. </p>
<p>Our media has learned that telling you things you want to hear is a great way to pump up the dough too. The entire news media is loaded with people who say, &#8220;If I were Barry Bonds, I would do this&#8230;&#8221; Yes, you and the media are more deserving than Bonds is. </p>
<p>I can never understand morons who think that if they had Bonds talent, money, or fame, they would do better with it. To all those envious morons, I say go out and make it on your own. I have news for you: Barry Bonds is not holding you back. </p>
<p>I hope the internet with blogs like this one are the death knell to this media empire. So often I have found the driveby media (an expression borrowed from Rush Limbaugh) is too afraid to say anything controversial. No one in the media had the balls to call Bush&#8217;s bluff on Iraq, but Sean Penn went to Iraq and saw first hand Iraq was not a threat to us. </p>
<p>Maybe you don&#8217;t like Sean Penn, but Sean Penn was right about Iraq, and the entire media was wrong. </p>
<p>I say we celebrate Bonds achievements and tell the media to go screw itself.</p>
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		<title>By: rocketdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocketdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, this is a load of crap.  Will Caroll from Baseball Prospectus interviewed the manufactuer of the arm pad right after this story started making the rounds.  (The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;story&lt;/a&gt; is subscription-only, but the complete &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baseballprospectus.com/radio/audio/bpr_070807_1.mp3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;audio version&lt;/a&gt; of the interview is free).  Carroll went over each claim from the article point-by-point with the guy, and although he thinks it&#039;s arguable that the hitter could gain some psychological advantage by being able to lean further over the plate, the idea that the pad is somehow enabling Bonds to have a more effective swing (much less contribute a whopping 75-100 HRs to his total, as the original article claims) is completely ridiculous.  It&#039;s just a plain old elbow pad.  It protects his elbow from getting hit by pitches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, this is a load of crap.  Will Caroll from Baseball Prospectus interviewed the manufactuer of the arm pad right after this story started making the rounds.  (The <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">story</a> is subscription-only, but the complete <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/radio/audio/bpr_070807_1.mp3" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">audio version</a> of the interview is free).  Carroll went over each claim from the article point-by-point with the guy, and although he thinks it&#8217;s arguable that the hitter could gain some psychological advantage by being able to lean further over the plate, the idea that the pad is somehow enabling Bonds to have a more effective swing (much less contribute a whopping 75-100 HRs to his total, as the original article claims) is completely ridiculous.  It&#8217;s just a plain old elbow pad.  It protects his elbow from getting hit by pitches.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel H. Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel H. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37

Considering the amount of beer &amp; whiskey golfers drink during these tournaments any advantage given by the steroids goes down the drain.


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<p>Considering the amount of beer &amp; whiskey golfers drink during these tournaments any advantage given by the steroids goes down the drain.</p>
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		<title>By: smartalix</title>
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		<dc:creator>smartalix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>36,

Good point.  Very few gave Tiger Woods flak for his laser surgery to improve his distance vision.</description>
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<p>Good point.  Very few gave Tiger Woods flak for his laser surgery to improve his distance vision.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more interested in the possibility that he&#039;s having steroids injected into his eyes to improve vision. An enhanced ability to pick up a pitch&#039;s rotation would do more for hitting than larger muscles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more interested in the possibility that he&#8217;s having steroids injected into his eyes to improve vision. An enhanced ability to pick up a pitch&#8217;s rotation would do more for hitting than larger muscles.</p>
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		<title>By: Raineer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So no one else uses the elbow guard?  Mo Vaughn comes to mind, among others.

We&#039;re in the steroid era, deal with it.  Barry Bonds is unquestionably the best player of the steroid era, deal with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So no one else uses the elbow guard?  Mo Vaughn comes to mind, among others.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in the steroid era, deal with it.  Barry Bonds is unquestionably the best player of the steroid era, deal with it.</p>
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		<title>By: iGlobalWarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>iGlobalWarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NFL Preseason begins tomorrow!  Yay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NFL Preseason begins tomorrow!  Yay.</p>
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		<title>By: BubbaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>BubbaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31, Mr. Fusion, The BubbaRayDipdork award is now blog approved and official.  It&#039;s mine, all mine, and like Hop&#039;s Ultimate King Kahuna Moran Award, I&#039;m keeping it!!

Some lucky winner is in the blog wings, I can just feel it.

#32, Mr. Mustard, Unlike most on this blog, I&#039;m anticipating the college football season.  So I&#039;m crazy, so what.  Ya&#039;ll go watch whatever entertainment you want.  But yes, I&#039;d rather go watch kids play then some of those overpaid steroid athletes.  I miss Nolan Ryan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31, Mr. Fusion, The BubbaRayDipdork award is now blog approved and official.  It&#8217;s mine, all mine, and like Hop&#8217;s Ultimate King Kahuna Moran Award, I&#8217;m keeping it!!</p>
<p>Some lucky winner is in the blog wings, I can just feel it.</p>
<p>#32, Mr. Mustard, Unlike most on this blog, I&#8217;m anticipating the college football season.  So I&#8217;m crazy, so what.  Ya&#8217;ll go watch whatever entertainment you want.  But yes, I&#8217;d rather go watch kids play then some of those overpaid steroid athletes.  I miss Nolan Ryan.</p>
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