Comments on: Finally, Apple switches to AMD for its new iMacs! (Sort of!) http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/ General interest observations and true web-log. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:49:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JoaoPT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-747520 JoaoPT Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:37:34 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-747520 PS. And since you were talking veranda over Palm Beach... http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13159#comments PS.
And since you were talking veranda over Palm Beach…
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13159#comments

]]> By: JoaoPT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-747454 JoaoPT Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:02:51 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-747454 Smart... Hey, is this post never going to end? OK. I'm off. See you guys in another thread... Smart…

Hey, is this post never going to end?
OK. I’m off. See you guys in another thread…

]]> By: Lauren the Ghoti http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-747112 Lauren the Ghoti Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:39:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-747112 I never (OK, rarely) hold any stock overnight... No all eggs > single basket for me. I never (OK, rarely) hold any stock overnight… No all eggs > single basket for me.

]]> By: JoaoPT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-746698 JoaoPT Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:17:13 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-746698 OK ok ok man... Stock isn't cash! They way you (mac)guys reason is: "geez, Apple has made me richer and richer with stocks". But you never sell'em. "Why sell? They'll just come up and up"... Till the day they park. They get stuck and level out. And you start thinking it's time to sell, but "hey, it's Apple, they'll be doing something spectacular and they'll go up again". And you never sell...till the day they tank for some reason. And you go "Damn those bloggers with the fake news, they cost me a million..." And you don't sell because you "just know " it's temporary and they'll come back up again...in fact you buy some more. And then some heavyweight somewhere be it Microsoft, or Intel or Hollywood Pictures inc. comes and buys the company out. Or merges. Because of SOX, they won't buy your stock... they won't go through the stock market...Ãnd suddenly, no veranda, no estate, no Palm Beach...bummer. But hey... OTOH it might not be so... and if you buy enough stock, you can retire just on the dividends... Good luck man. I don't know if you deserve it, but you might... OK ok ok man… Stock isn’t cash!
They way you (mac)guys reason is: “geez, Apple has made me richer and richer with stocks”. But you never sell’em. “Why sell? They’ll just come up and up”… Till the day they park. They get stuck and level out. And you start thinking it’s time to sell, but “hey, it’s Apple, they’ll be doing something spectacular and they’ll go up again”. And you never sell…till the day they tank for some reason. And you go “Damn those bloggers with the fake news, they cost me a million…” And you don’t sell because you “just know ” it’s temporary and they’ll come back up again…in fact you buy some more.
And then some heavyweight somewhere be it Microsoft, or Intel or Hollywood Pictures inc. comes and buys the company out. Or merges. Because of SOX, they won’t buy your stock… they won’t go through the stock market…Ãnd suddenly, no veranda, no estate, no Palm Beach…bummer.

But hey… OTOH it might not be so… and if you buy enough stock, you can retire just on the dividends…

Good luck man. I don’t know if you deserve it, but you might…

]]> By: Lauren the Ghoti http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-746517 Lauren the Ghoti Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:19:35 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-746517 The way Apple stock has been performing for me, in 18 mos. I'll be posting from the veranda of my Palm Beach estate... The way Apple stock has been performing for me, in 18 mos. I’ll be posting from the veranda of my Palm Beach estate…

]]> By: JoaoPT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-746187 JoaoPT Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:34:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-746187 Ok then, I've made a notch on google calendar (or agenda...) in 18 months time be sure to hang around here or the cagematch forums. Ok then, I’ve made a notch on google calendar (or agenda…) in 18 months time be sure to hang around here or the cagematch forums.

]]> By: Lauren the Ghoti http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-746057 Lauren the Ghoti Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:33:05 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-746057 Watch it, Joao - my predictions have this annoying habit of coming true... :) Watch it, Joao – my predictions have this annoying habit of coming true… :)

]]> By: JoaoPT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-745663 JoaoPT Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:51:08 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-745663 Look, I'm not that much of a Mac basher. In fact I have some respect for the Mac as a well crafted machine and I must say it has a purpose in it's price point and target market. What really gives me the willies is the "Field distortion". And Mac fans. Those that consider that nothing coming out of Cupertino is bad..." just give'em some time... they'll make it better on the next Upgrades". That almost blind faith: "If God (steve) intended us to send MMS, it had a button on the front". I used to be like that. Not anymore. I used to like clean minimalist furniture and Bauhaus style architecture. Designer chairs and stuff. The perfect world. Not anymore. Perfection has a too big price tag. There's a lot to be said on imperfection, on freedom, on bad taste. That's all... that's all. Ps. I was serious on that calendar thing... Look, I’m not that much of a Mac basher.
In fact I have some respect for the Mac as a well crafted machine and I must say it has a purpose in it’s price point and target market.
What really gives me the willies is the “Field distortion”.
And Mac fans. Those that consider that nothing coming out of Cupertino is bad…” just give’em some time… they’ll make it better on the next Upgrades”. That almost blind faith: “If God (steve) intended us to send MMS, it had a button on the front”. I used to be like that. Not anymore. I used to like clean minimalist furniture and Bauhaus style architecture. Designer chairs and stuff. The perfect world.
Not anymore. Perfection has a too big price tag. There’s a lot to be said on imperfection, on freedom, on bad taste.
That’s all… that’s all.

Ps. I was serious on that calendar thing…

]]> By: Lauren the Ghoti http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-745556 Lauren the Ghoti Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:09:07 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-745556 Soldier for the cause? Not really. I have some very grave issues with some of the things Apple has done recently, things I regard as inexcusable and unacceptable. Give me 15 minutes with ol' Steverino, and I guarantee he'd come outta that meeting with a red face... However, they still beat the alternatives. Soldier for the cause? Not really. I have some very grave issues with some of the things Apple has done recently, things I regard as inexcusable and unacceptable. Give me 15 minutes with ol’ Steverino, and I guarantee he’d come outta that meeting with a red face…

However, they still beat the alternatives.

]]> By: joaoPT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-4/#comment-745475 joaoPT Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:44:31 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-745475 Read your links too... I can make an appointment with you in 18months time to check the Fantasyland status...Really, I can set a memo on my calendar... My friend, I don't dig Dell. Nor HP. I never buy my PCs by brand. Only if I was crazy... There's a lot of shops here I can buy custom built PCs. I can pick a suggested build and change components at will before I buy. Take these two links, one is Apple Portugal. They don't have the new mac mini yet. But when they will, the price will be the same in euros as dollars (a huge rip off...) So... 599 and 799. Check all these: http://www.chip7.pt/catalogo/index.php?cat=759&sessao=1 Aesthetics aside, how can you compare the entry level mini to the "College" here...twice the ram, faster, two graphics boards, 500Gb versus 80... And in a real form factor, a real box. Now the mini is undeniably sexy, but it's so hampered by the form facto it's a joke as home PC. At least in my point of view... Read your links too… I can make an appointment with you in 18months time to check the Fantasyland status…Really, I can set a memo on my calendar…

My friend, I don’t dig Dell. Nor HP. I never buy my PCs by brand. Only if I was crazy… There’s a lot of shops here I can buy custom built PCs. I can pick a suggested build and change components at will before I buy.
Take these two links, one is Apple Portugal. They don’t have the new mac mini yet. But when they will, the price will be the same in euros as dollars (a huge rip off…) So… 599 and 799.
Check all these:
http://www.chip7.pt/catalogo/index.php?cat=759&sessao=1
Aesthetics aside, how can you compare the entry level mini to the “College” here…twice the ram, faster, two graphics boards, 500Gb versus 80… And in a real form factor, a real box.
Now the mini is undeniably sexy, but it’s so hampered by the form facto it’s a joke as home PC. At least in my point of view…

]]> By: joaoPT http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-3/#comment-745405 joaoPT Sun, 12 Aug 2007 18:30:47 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-745405 Hellooo can you hear me???? Guess you found out about RSS feed for comments... Lauren, you're a regular Soldier for the cause aren't you? When did you buy the G4/350? My guess is that PC was hitting 450Mhz at that time. I know it because Jobs used to show the little graphs on the Apple page showing the G4 being faster than a P3... Well news flash: My company does vinyl cutting and printing. We still use for production work a p3 at 350 and a p3 at 450. Furthermore how many beige pIII 450 a BW G4 would buy? at least two. BTW I'm writing this on a G3 500 iBook running on Ubuntu (couldn't stand OSX 10.4 it was painfully slow because I have only 384Mb ram) Hellooo can you hear me????

Guess you found out about RSS feed for comments…

Lauren, you’re a regular Soldier for the cause aren’t you?
When did you buy the G4/350? My guess is that PC was hitting 450Mhz at that time. I know it because Jobs used to show the little graphs on the Apple page showing the G4 being faster than a P3… Well news flash: My company does vinyl cutting and printing. We still use for production work a p3 at 350 and a p3 at 450. Furthermore how many beige pIII 450 a BW G4 would buy? at least two.

BTW I’m writing this on a G3 500 iBook running on Ubuntu (couldn’t stand OSX 10.4 it was painfully slow because I have only 384Mb ram)

]]> By: Lauren the Ghoti http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-3/#comment-744570 Lauren the Ghoti Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:49:44 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-744570 Nope. Haven't tried it. Got a dual G5 for that. Doesn't change my point a bit. PC go obsolete quicker than Macs. Nope. Haven’t tried it. Got a dual G5 for that. Doesn’t change my point a bit. PC go obsolete quicker than Macs.

]]> By: Angel H. Wong http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-3/#comment-744385 Angel H. Wong Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:44:53 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-744385 #55 Why bother with an OS that requires you to BUY ALL THE MAJOR SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS EVERYTIME A "NEW" OSX VERSION IS AVAILABLE when all I can do with winXP is upgrade it via internet? And BTW I'm in Honduras, In Belize PCs are cheap enough to cost barely the same in the USA. #57 *yawn* Apple switched to Intel processors bridging the gap between Macs & PCs, the only thing that has been differentiating a Mac from IBMs shoddy PCs of the early 90s (386 IBM PCs for $2000 where the rest was selling 486 clones for the same price) is a good campaign market and consumer loyalty. So tell me, can your 350MHz G3 run Photoshop SC3? 'cause otherwise that's just a toy. #55

Why bother with an OS that requires you to BUY ALL THE MAJOR SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS EVERYTIME A “NEW” OSX VERSION IS AVAILABLE when all I can do with winXP is upgrade it via internet?

And BTW I’m in Honduras, In Belize PCs are cheap enough to cost barely the same in the USA.

#57

*yawn* Apple switched to Intel processors bridging the gap between Macs & PCs, the only thing that has been differentiating a Mac from IBMs shoddy PCs of the early 90s (386 IBM PCs for $2000 where the rest was selling 486 clones for the same price) is a good campaign market and consumer loyalty.

So tell me, can your 350MHz G3 run Photoshop SC3? ’cause otherwise that’s just a toy.

]]> By: Lauren the Ghoti http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-3/#comment-744279 Lauren the Ghoti Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:14:57 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-744279 Nahnahnahnahnahnah pedro. The ol' switcheroo, as the great Wilson Pickett said, 'ain't gonna get it.' Show me a contemporary of my B&W G3 350 - which, to save you checking, is a Pentium 300 - with a SOTA vidcard of that vintage, that'll run the current, latest version of Windows with all the bells and whistles. As you already know, you can't. Now tell me all about obsolescent hardware. I particularly would enjoy hearing more about that crap of yours about how I have to replace my Mac with every new version of the OS... when it's the Intel / M$ Axis of Evil that deliberately ups the ante to keep forcing Windows users to keep buying hardware. Billyboy makes sure certain Windows 'features' require Intel's latest chips - and also helps ensure Maxtor and Western Digital a steady flow of customers for new drives big enough to hold all of M$'s bloatware... Nahnahnahnahnahnah pedro. The ol’ switcheroo, as the great Wilson Pickett said, ‘ain’t gonna get it.’

Show me a contemporary of my B&W G3 350 – which, to save you checking, is a Pentium 300 – with a SOTA vidcard of that vintage, that’ll run the current, latest version of Windows with all the bells and whistles.

As you already know, you can’t.

Now tell me all about obsolescent hardware. I particularly would enjoy hearing more about that crap of yours about how I have to replace my Mac with every new version of the OS… when it’s the Intel / M$ Axis of Evil that deliberately ups the ante to keep forcing Windows users to keep buying hardware. Billyboy makes sure certain Windows ‘features’ require Intel’s latest chips – and also helps ensure Maxtor and Western Digital a steady flow of customers for new drives big enough to hold all of M$’s bloatware…

]]> By: pedro http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/09/apple-switches-to-amd-for-its-new-imacs/comment-page-3/#comment-744245 pedro Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:22:18 +0000 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13075#comment-744245 #46 go figure. I have a computer where all my main files reside. It started as a win3.1 machine and a pentium 100 All the data in that thing is still there (along with remnants of the win3.1 registry), along with one or two win3.1 programs (amipro) which still works. That same machine exist today in a dula boot winme/w2k machine (the old data is on the winme partition) and a custom modded motherboard to allow it to go to a full 1 ghz. Pentium3 1ghz and still works. Find me an apple computer which evolved in such a way and still not only has the programs from those days but they do work along newer ones and I may give you the point. Otherwise... #46 go figure. I have a computer where all my main files reside. It started as a win3.1 machine and a pentium 100 All the data in that thing is still there (along with remnants of the win3.1 registry), along with one or two win3.1 programs (amipro) which still works. That same machine exist today in a dula boot winme/w2k machine (the old data is on the winme partition) and a custom modded motherboard to allow it to go to a full 1 ghz. Pentium3 1ghz and still works. Find me an apple computer which evolved in such a way and still not only has the programs from those days but they do work along newer ones and I may give you the point. Otherwise…

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