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		<title>By: Ralph the School Bus Driver</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-753228</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph the School Bus Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12, 16, &amp; 17, &lt;b&gt;WOW&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12, 16, &amp; 17, <b>WOW</b></p>
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		<title>By: MikeN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, one step away from thought crime.  So they arrested Padilla before he even thought about committing a crime.  I&#039;m a little suspicious that he could have pulled off what he wanted to do, since dirty bomb strikes me as more an image than a reality.  Nevertheless, most of these guys look like buffoons till they are caught.  Al Qaeda had previously gotten their boat stuck in the sand trying an attack similar to the USS Cole attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, one step away from thought crime.  So they arrested Padilla before he even thought about committing a crime.  I&#8217;m a little suspicious that he could have pulled off what he wanted to do, since dirty bomb strikes me as more an image than a reality.  Nevertheless, most of these guys look like buffoons till they are caught.  Al Qaeda had previously gotten their boat stuck in the sand trying an attack similar to the USS Cole attack.</p>
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		<title>By: TIHZ_HO</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-752960</link>
		<dc:creator>TIHZ_HO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16, 17 Bullshit

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16, 17 Bullshit</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-752730</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen gquaglia. Some of the windy posters here need to learn brevity is the soul. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen gquaglia. Some of the windy posters here need to learn brevity is the soul.</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-752705</link>
		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 05:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14
Well its better then some long winded, half assed, liberal pontification that some here love to spew out just to show how enlightened they think they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14<br />
Well its better then some long winded, half assed, liberal pontification that some here love to spew out just to show how enlightened they think they are.</p>
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		<title>By: TIHZ_HO</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-752704</link>
		<dc:creator>TIHZ_HO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 05:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...an application form Mr. Padilla filled out to attend a training camp run by Al Qaeda in Afghanistan in 2000.&lt;/i&gt;

An application form for Ai Qaeda? 

What do they ask? LOL!

Do they do a criminal check? &lt;i&gt; &quot;I&#039;m sorry, but your application has been denied - you don&#039;t have a criminal record...thank you for your interest...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;We don&#039;t need no Steeenkin Badges&quot; - &lt;i&gt;Blazing Saddles&lt;/i&gt; :D

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;an application form Mr. Padilla filled out to attend a training camp run by Al Qaeda in Afghanistan in 2000.</i></p>
<p>An application form for Ai Qaeda? </p>
<p>What do they ask? LOL!</p>
<p>Do they do a criminal check? <i> &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, but your application has been denied &#8211; you don&#8217;t have a criminal record&#8230;thank you for your interest&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t need no Steeenkin Badges&#8221; &#8211; <i>Blazing Saddles</i> <img src='http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-752638</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12: &quot;Bullshit&quot;

Now THAT&#039;S the kind of enlightened, deep, thought provoking, contemplative argument that&#039;s guaranteed to convince any open minded reader who takes even a moment to cogitate about the issue.  Bravo and well said, dear gquaglia!  Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12: &#8220;Bullshit&#8221;</p>
<p>Now THAT&#8217;S the kind of enlightened, deep, thought provoking, contemplative argument that&#8217;s guaranteed to convince any open minded reader who takes even a moment to cogitate about the issue.  Bravo and well said, dear gquaglia!  Bravo!</p>
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		<title>By: GregA</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1,

OMG, you couldn&#039;t be more wrong.  This proves that all the additional measures like special illegal combatant statuses, giant secret wiretapping programs,  torture, secret military tribunals, gitmo bay, etc etc are not needed.  The basic criminal statues are more than enough to convict terrorists.

Case Mother effing Closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1,</p>
<p>OMG, you couldn&#8217;t be more wrong.  This proves that all the additional measures like special illegal combatant statuses, giant secret wiretapping programs,  torture, secret military tribunals, gitmo bay, etc etc are not needed.  The basic criminal statues are more than enough to convict terrorists.</p>
<p>Case Mother effing Closed.</p>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5, #6 Bullshit</description>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-752464</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can think it.    Just don&#039;t say it out loud. 
at least I think you can. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can think it.    Just don&#8217;t say it out loud.<br />
at least I think you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen McDonald, El Galloviejo®</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-752387</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen McDonald, El Galloviejo®</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
( #4 ) ¡ You nailed it, Doug !

The more blatant, grievous &#039; thought crime &#039; was, in fact, conceived and   perpetrated by Jose Padilla&#039;s persecutors.

Their customary modus operandi is to kidnap, sodomize, imprison and torture the &#039; terrorist &#039;.

In Padilla&#039;s case, he, an American citizen, was imprisoned wtih NO charges being filed against him. Then, when he was charged and tried, he was charged with breaking a law that was enacted AFTER they kidnapped him.

The mouth breathing, living brain donor idolaters, however, see nothing wrong with this picture.

Allen McDonald, El Galloviejo®
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>( #4 ) ¡ You nailed it, Doug !</p>
<p>The more blatant, grievous &#8216; thought crime &#8216; was, in fact, conceived and   perpetrated by Jose Padilla&#8217;s persecutors.</p>
<p>Their customary modus operandi is to kidnap, sodomize, imprison and torture the &#8216; terrorist &#8216;.</p>
<p>In Padilla&#8217;s case, he, an American citizen, was imprisoned wtih NO charges being filed against him. Then, when he was charged and tried, he was charged with breaking a law that was enacted AFTER they kidnapped him.</p>
<p>The mouth breathing, living brain donor idolaters, however, see nothing wrong with this picture.</p>
<p>Allen McDonald, El Galloviejo®</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Mustard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Ok, let me get this straight. 
&gt;&gt;First liberals complained that he was being held 
&gt;&gt;without a trial. Now he gets a trial, is found guilty 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Ok, let me get this straight.<br />
&gt;&gt;First liberals complained that he was being held<br />
&gt;&gt;without a trial. Now he gets a trial, is found guilty</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5.  Actually, conspiracy-type charges are routinely trotted out in white-collar crimes.  Fact of the matter is that the Feds usually convict people of conspiring to do something, attempting to do something, or lying about having done something (think Martha Stewart and Scooter Libby) but not so much for ACTUALLY having done something.

this is neither new nor confined to persons of color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5.  Actually, conspiracy-type charges are routinely trotted out in white-collar crimes.  Fact of the matter is that the Feds usually convict people of conspiring to do something, attempting to do something, or lying about having done something (think Martha Stewart and Scooter Libby) but not so much for ACTUALLY having done something.</p>
<p>this is neither new nor confined to persons of color.</p>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it! 
I&#039;m not going to think any more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it!<br />
I&#8217;m not going to think any more!</p>
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		<title>By: Noname</title>
		<link>http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2007/08/18/padilla-and-his-minority-report-type-verdict/comment-page-1/#comment-752266</link>
		<dc:creator>Noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the new communism, Bush Style.

Aside from the very dubious merits to the conviction, he wasn&#039;t a dirty bomber and only tangentially connected to any threat..  What should be important to all citizens, is what BUSH case law is leaving for us.

What we are left with, is dangerous to intellectuals and free thinkers.  You are only safe if you are a major and significant republican contributer. 

What Americans are left with, is the loss of our previous means to direct energy of ideas into virtues for society, rigorous education and socializing with people also interested in civic virtues.  This was before age of profits rule.  Now, education and news media is more propaganda and indoctrination into Bushes way of thinking.

Now we socialize people by staying in tune with the latest culture trends, sitcoms, propaganda for news and trips to the Mall, all bets are off.  All is left is profits rule and fear.

Bush has lead the effort to establish case law where ideas and property are communal to be certified by the state and directed to the state.

it’s only going to get worse. Can you say NSA, CIA, DoD and people like gquaglia …. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the new communism, Bush Style.</p>
<p>Aside from the very dubious merits to the conviction, he wasn&#8217;t a dirty bomber and only tangentially connected to any threat..  What should be important to all citizens, is what BUSH case law is leaving for us.</p>
<p>What we are left with, is dangerous to intellectuals and free thinkers.  You are only safe if you are a major and significant republican contributer. </p>
<p>What Americans are left with, is the loss of our previous means to direct energy of ideas into virtues for society, rigorous education and socializing with people also interested in civic virtues.  This was before age of profits rule.  Now, education and news media is more propaganda and indoctrination into Bushes way of thinking.</p>
<p>Now we socialize people by staying in tune with the latest culture trends, sitcoms, propaganda for news and trips to the Mall, all bets are off.  All is left is profits rule and fear.</p>
<p>Bush has lead the effort to establish case law where ideas and property are communal to be certified by the state and directed to the state.</p>
<p>it’s only going to get worse. Can you say NSA, CIA, DoD and people like gquaglia ….</p>
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